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But I already wrote that we play on large and very large maps!
On very large maps, the option above is viable! On such maps, by the 3rd month, when you connect, you can even reach 31!
Ereb
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On large maps, a Dwarf will also be quite effective, I assure you, lovers of playing as Orcs. You know how Readiness or Inspiration, combined with the Rune of Battle Fury, can play against an Orc. At the same time, Chaos can deal good damage with Pyromancy, especially in combination with the Fire Sign. And on XL maps, you will definitely find Phoenix Feathers or Amulets. Plus, a lucky Sorcerer... And here's another thing: a Dwarf can level up Summoning if he's lucky, and by level 27, Summoning will definitely be available. All this for Erling... Priests rule:):smile20:... I know for sure that an Orc will have to take at least one Silence spell... Light or Chaos...
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I would play using the "Through Attack" ability! But, judging by what I've seen, I think the best hero is Shakruna (sorry, his name is hard to remember) with "regeneration!!!" Passive and Active skills are good!!! It's better to suppress Chaos!
Ereb
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..And if I were playing against an Orc, I would take the Summoning skill 66% of the time... someone mentioned that Mines and Nebshit are good choices,... but in the late game, you can visit several castles or farm Tomes in Utopia, or finally buy them... in the late game, you'll have time to think about it:).. Although, with Erling, you can also go for a Light build so that the Runes and Resurrections can help us, and the Priests will definitely handle the Kents... and here's another thing I think: in the late game, you can level up a Gnome with Combat Alchemy (CA)... with a bit of luck..
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Are you high or something? :0 What kind of summon are you talking about for the Dwarves? The chance of it dropping is minimal; it's like saying that Hafiz will level up through defense.
...And if I were playing against an Orc, I'd choose Summoning 66% of the time... someone mentioned that Mines and Nebshit are good... but in the late game, you can visit several castles or farm Tomes in Utopia, or finally buy them... in the late game, you'll have time to think about it... Although, with Erling, you can go into the light so that the runes and resurrections can help us, and the Priests will definitely handle the Centaurs... and here's another thing I think: in the late game, you can level up a Gnome with Combat Alchemy... with luck.
Ereb, what are you doing here if you have nothing to advise? KITOBOI is asking for help, not for you to prove the opposite! What are you talking about? Did you fall from the moon? Don't make me laugh. What kind of Priests can handle Centaurs? You need to consider that Centaurs have a much higher growth rate, and a lot of Rage and a much higher attack! If it weren't for the runes, Gnomes would be completely useless! :D
I would play using Through Attack! But, judging by appearances, I think the best hero is Shakrinuna (sorry, his name is hard to remember) with regeneration!!! Passive and Active skills are good!!! It's better to suppress chaos!
Ingvar, a friendly piece of advice, NEVER choose Shakkurakat.
I conducted an analysis, and any hero who specializes in troops is much better. For high-level creatures, the bonus to hit points is not significant, and at the very least, it's worse than the bonus to defense.
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..First of all, I think many people here have something to talk about, and if everyone is talking about the late game, then what's the problem???????m..skills that drop with a 2% or 4% chance are not exactly fantasy when heroes above lvl 25 are walking around (much depends on the situation and luck) ...But I agree on one thing: it's EASIER FOR ORCS TO GO FOR СА; everyone knows that for dwarves, going for their own is worse.....HA, without their rage, ORCS would be left with absolutely nothing but high growth and stupid heads..then we'd see who the losers are...Dwarves are less tied to their runes than orcs are to their rage.....
I think some of the words I've said will benefit any orc player...Since Kitoboy is interested in how to crush dwarves, here is the main advice for Kitoboy: if the opponent takes Ingvar, he will most likely level up through light because there is no darkness in his own guild (of course, one can visit demon castles or Haven), then he will probably take luck since the attack of dwarves isn't that great, although there is a possibility that he (if he thinks of it) will take tactics so that cyclops don't cripple too many dwarf stacks....He might take (and should) leadership because of special perks for RUNES...If he doesn't go through BDP, then most likely through herd, or maybe even take attack herd....But time plays in favor of the Orc; growth is higher there, and forum users in this thread have told us about many other orc advantages....sorry if I surprised anyone with anything (I'm writing what I've tried myself and worked in the majority of cases)...And also, if you find another castle (Kitoboy) or the enemy finds one, everything depends on skill. When a dwarf has almost the full set of runes, he is harder to take down.... Thanks..in advance
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Have you eaten too many mushrooms :0 ??? What Summon for dwarves? Their chance of it dropping is tiny; that's like me saying Hafiz would level up through defense.
I ate mushrooms, but I didn't overeat them,:) :p One thing is Summon for a dwarf, quite another is defense for Hafiz....Erling also leans more towards mania, and skilled mines are just right against an orc....But defense for Hafiz is completely inappropriate; that's only for Razak!!!:smile20:
[QUOTE=Ereb]Orcs without their rage would be left with nothing, just a large increase in numbers and dull heads... then we'd see who the losers are... Dwarves are less connected to their runes than Orcs are to their rage... Ereb, if you remove rage from Orcs and runes from Dwarves! Then Orcs would still easily defeat them, as there would be a significant difference in their initial stats!:smile08:
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Avenger Okay, then Arghat or Krag would be better – he can defeat the Jarls/Earls! Ereb If Hafiz had a shield, I would take it for its durability, reflection, and resistance! Although that's only a 2% chance! But according to your logic, that's a lot))).
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About dwarves and orcs:
...orcs have rage, which helps them during development – minimizing all losses, while dwarves manage on their own, and the hero casts spells. One nuance is that dwarves only use runes to their full potential in the final battle, while orcs' rage is always available everywhere; you just need to take "Battle Frenzy" or "Memory of Blood," etc. From my own experience, I know that half or more of an orc's victory comes from Rage: for example, cyclops have an aura of terror, goblins have invulnerability, executioners have cleave, and that's plus an attack... this is when they have the 3rd level of rage, but the most noticeable one is with centaurs, where even the 1st level of rage already gives +6 to attack, etc.
Rage is too powerful, so don't offend the dwarves; they are not to blame for being so sturdy and resilient, plus they have runes... it should be this way:smile42:
About dwarves and orcs:
....orcs have rage, which helps them during development – minimizing all losses, while dwarves manage on their own, and the hero casts spells. One nuance is that dwarves only use runes to their full potential in the final battle, while orcs' rage is always available everywhere; you just need to take: Battle Frenzy or Remembrance of Our Blood, etc. From my own experience, I know that half or more of an orc's victory comes from Rage: for example, cyclops have an aura of terror, goblins have invulnerability, executioners have cleave, and plus an attack... - this is when they have the 3rd level of rage, but the most noticeable is with centaurs, where even the 1st level of rage already gives +6 to attack, etc.
Rage is too powerful, so don't offend the dwarves; they are not to blame for being so durable and resilient, plus runes... it should be this way:smile42:
Yes, they fall apart like snot; you try leveling them up without light magic, which can resurrect, and you can put regeneration on the thanes! So don't exaggerate!:mad:
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Without rage, Orcs are weaker than Dwarves without runes.
And the defense of Orc units is terrible!!! And they have very little health.
Everyone knows how quickly Berserkers are destroyed without rage.
Goblins, Centaurs, and Orcs are very poorly protected against rapid destruction. Shamans are slightly better, especially considering the low health of Berserkers.
But how are Orcs supposed to defeat Lava Dragons???
Contrary to the opinion about Black Dragons, Lava Dragons can be considered the strongest creatures of the last level (40% of the damage is reflected).
Without Rage, Orcs are weaker than Dwarves without runes. And the defense of Orc units is terrible!!! And they have very little health. Everyone knows how quickly Rage-less Assassins are destroyed.
Goblins, Centaurs, and Orcs are very poorly protected against rapid destruction. Shamans are slightly better, especially considering the frailty of Berserkers.
But how are Orcs supposed to fight Lava Dragons??? Contrary to the opinion about Black Dragons, Lava Dragons can be considered the strongest creatures of the last level (40% of the damage is returned).
But the hero gains attack and defense, keep that in mind! Also, the growth rate of Executioners is doubled, even though their defense is lower! This compensates for it! It's not the Rage that makes an Orc level up quickly, but the fact that their attack is around 10 at level 5! And the Dwarf is stuck with magic first, then defense, and then knowledge! If it weren't for Light Magic, there would only be Priests! But with an Orc, I level up without losses, and Rage isn't needed!
Thanks to everyone for the advice! Here's another question: Which creatures in the Dwarf army should be killed first? And why? Please, no guesses, but share your experience – how you fought and won! My opponent always attacks Cyclops first and quickly eliminates them, and then it's a disaster for the rest of my army!
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