Which hero is the best at level 1-1-1? — Contests

Registered: 11/23/2007

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#16 8/5/2009 10:44 AM UTC

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Splitting the troops is, of course, possible. Ivor versus Shakti... Let's calculate. The Trolls will reach the Elves by the 4th round - by then, about 80 of them will have been eliminated. Against 10 Centaurs and 12 Elves - and we're already counting the Trolls' attack. Yes, Ivor will handle this - even without retreating. It's good that you remembered old Bron: 20 Gnolls, 7 Basilisks, and 4 Snakes. Ivor has no chance here. So, we conclude that Ciel is the best mage by far. And among the warriors - Bron? Or can Shakti defeat him? ;)

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

Registered: 11/15/2008

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#17 8/5/2009 10:48 AM UTC

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Bron, Shakti, and Ivor are like rock, paper, and scissors.

Всем удачи ! И Морали !

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#18 8/5/2009 3:05 PM UTC

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The Bronze hero is quite unique. Stone Skin can also be a solution here.

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#20 8/22/2009 8:23 PM UTC

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I would like to see how Bron manages to defeat 120 Trogols, considering that 7 Basilisks can take down Trogols in 1-2 hits...

Удача любит подготовленных!!!

Стримы и обучение тут:
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#21 8/23/2009 3:06 AM UTC

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Gomunguls

I'd like to see how Bron will take down 120 troglodytes, considering that 7 basilisks can defeat troglodytes in 1-2 hits...

Read my post above, Vitaly ;)

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#22 8/28/2009 1:06 PM UTC

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Captain

Splitting the troops is certainly an option.
Ivor against Shakti... Let's calculate.
The Trolls will reach the Elves by round 4 – by then, around 80 of them will have been eliminated. Against 10 Centaurs and 12 Elves – and we can already estimate the Troll attack. Yes, Ivor will handle this – even without retreating.

I think we're making a mistake – the Miner will clearly crush everyone. First, 12 Elves won't kill 80 Trolls in 4 rounds with basic archery. Second, the remaining 40 (at a minimum, I think it will be more) will easily defeat 10 Centaurs and 12 Elves. The only option is for the Elves to retreat, but I don't think that will work either.

Всем удачи ! И Морали !

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#23 8/28/2009 9:26 PM UTC

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it probably won't be easy – even if it's just an open battlefield. It won't be difficult to protect the elves with large centaurs; trolls will kill one centaur per turn (we're not taking morale into account, because the elves' morale will drop immediately under direct fire), and they will take damage from the elf stack.

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#24 8/29/2009 2:29 AM UTC

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Wlk777

I think we're stuck.

I agree. We're all stuck. We need to generate a save file and check it. It'll only take a couple of minutes.

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#25 8/29/2009 5:06 AM UTC

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Good that you remembered old Bron: 20 gnolls, 7 basilisks, and 4 snakes.
Ivor has no chance here.

I'm not sure if the maximum number of basilisks is 7...
Feel free to correct me, but I remember once getting 11, although I can't say for sure now if it was on a specific map.
And besides, since you're talking about the first day, it's logical that the hero would buy supplies and maybe even upgrade something that day... and also get an army of 2 heroes - those 120 trogs ;)

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Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

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#26 8/29/2009 5:17 AM UTC

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Back in the days when people played on "impossible" difficulty and Qwerty was a generalist, more than 7 basilisks for Bron (who was most often chosen for Swamp) had not been observed.
Anyway, time passes, we didn't take Dragon Utopia on the third...

Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер

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#27 8/29/2009 7:58 AM UTC

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Erhog

because elves on a direct attack path have low morale – they immediately lose, and get crushed by a stack of elves.

It's not really a GG for the elves, because they aren't a top-tier faction; they can kill a maximum of 20 (and realistically, a maximum of 12-15) extra orcs. However, morale is a real problem for the orcs if they first break through a line of centaurs and then attack the unprotected elves.
P.S. Here's a save file. Elves kill 12 orcs on a direct attack path – BUT if morale isn't a factor, the elves, with their ability to retreat, easily win.

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