Posts from Club championship of the CIS countries.

Let's go to Yoburg :) and I'll definitely come.

I remember someone inviting people to a tournament in Zelenograd.

First of all, we should find out who wants and is able to come.

Exactly. As soon as we decide on the organizers, they will immediately organize a poll.

And for that, it is necessary to announce the exact dates and the program of the event.

Perhaps qualifiers won't even be necessary.

If you set too global a goal, you'll fail. I remember there was a very strong general desire to hold a "Tournament of the Century" on the League of Heroes, but it was inflated so excessively that they couldn't finish it. Therefore, the tournament needs segmentation. If one segment falls through, it won't affect the other segments.
A large tournament will initially consist of, say, 5-6 small ones, independent of each other. Due to the disjointed and fragmented nature of the Heroes community, maximum freedom is needed for these mini-tournaments.
For example, St. Petersburg holds a tournament on TE (calling it a city championship), playing only on weekends. Moscow also plays on weekends, but on SoD.
Michurinsk — on SoD, over three days. Minsk, St. Petersburg, and Kiev propose their own schedules, whatever is most convenient for the participants.

Of course, without the recognized Heroes centers: Moscow, St. Petersburg, Minsk, or Ukraine — the tournament loses significant value.

The dates should be reasonable. It seems to me that two timeframes are convenient — September (it's still almost summer, no need to deal with fur coats) and January (half the month is non-working). That is, where they will play for a long time, on weekends — it's better to start earlier; where it's fast — it doesn't matter, whatever is more convenient for the organizer.

The final — somewhere in May of next year in the worst case; if everyone works promptly — then perhaps right during the January holidays.

Organizers don't need to jump out of their skins — they just run a regular tournament and take care of the guests' accommodation, if there are any.

Although this is all secondary - first we need to collect a list of those interested, then split them by cities for the qualifiers. And only then choose the time and place of the gathering.

First — identify the organizers in the major Heroes centers and the core of the local scene. Using Michurinsk as an example. I'll contact Mizrael, Scorp, and Stas from Tambov, then the Old Osskol people who have been with me — Mystik and Dmitry, and I'll add Stiki to them. From the local scene, I'll wait for the weekend arrival of Veland and Pavel, add Cannabis, Lekha, Lavren, and Flesh to them — even having 8-9 people from this list in the tournament would already ensure a quite decent champ, even without other guests. Either way, I'll be ready to host the tournament.

Other organizers will do roughly the same. Minsk, Moscow, St. Petersburg — they have a slightly different specificity due to the size of the cities and the number of players.

Going to look at the map to see where this town is...

I'll explain using Michurinsk as an example. It's a major railway hub, 400 km south of Moscow; almost all trains from the capital heading south go through us. And there are plenty of trains from east to west (and vice versa). There are two stations, so the guests' bad habit of not informing in advance which station they are arriving at sometimes irritates both them and me.
Let's say, the trip from Moscow to us (400 km) costs 550 rubles. Round trip, accordingly, 1100 rubles.

Hotel accommodation has become more expensive — 800 rubles per day. Let's calculate: they arrive Friday evening, that's one day; Saturday is the second; on Sunday we check out and leave things at my place or locked up in the club. Total 2 days = 1600 rubles.
10-12 rubles — 1 hour of play in the club; playing at least 10-12 hours a day (yes, just like that) — that's 100-150 rubles per day, approximately 400 rubles for the tournament. Total mandatory costs — 3000-3200 rubles.
Next — food; you can bring a cow with you, or you can have lunch in quite decent cafeterias with home-cooked food, a normal lunch for a hundred, we'll add about 900 rubles for three days.

Total all costs — 4000 rubles. The only additional cost — by agreement, a tournament entry fee, say 1000 rubles, so that the winner feels good going home not only in a moral but also a material sense. Again, if there are financial difficulties, the organizers can be understanding — the player plays without an entry fee, but if they take 1st place, they won't receive the prize fund (it will go to the player who took the highest place among those who paid the fee).

In total — for 4 or 5 thousand rubles, a person gets the opportunity to spend three days socializing in the Heroes circle, show themselves, and most importantly, observe others. Perhaps doubts about the level of play will vanish on their own.
I think it will be most expensive for guests to travel to Yekaterinburg; I looked at the map, checked the scale, and felt dizzy. But they have great traditions of holding tournaments and a strong scene. Minsk — I don't think it will be much more expensive than Michurinsk. I don't know about Kiev. Moscow and St. Petersburg — well, if there's a way to make it cheap in those cities — it should be used. But overall, these scenes would be ashamed not to hold their own tournaments, because they have always been leaders in Heroes.

THE MAIN THING is to FORM AN ORGANIZING COMMITTEE of people ready to conduct their regional tournaments at a decent level. So far there are two — Yekaterinburg and Michurinsk, we're waiting for more. It would be good if Vika from St. Petersburg...

Afterwards — we will agree on the conditions and dates for the mini-tournaments, and discuss potential sponsors.
After that — the cores of the tournaments are formed from local players, and guests are invited.

I recall someone inviting people to a tournament in Zelenograd.

Perhaps not. Only proven centers and people — and there will still be enough problems.
Some simply won't calculate their strength in organizing and recruiting participants, some are just people of one day — they wake up in the morning and no longer want to hold a tournament. One must approach holding a large event with a margin of safety; qualifiers only where it is guaranteed they can take place.

I like the idea! As a player, I don't see much opportunity for myself... Therefore, I think participating myself would be pointless. But as a spectator, I will definitely participate if everything works out! I can easily come to the qualifying rounds in St. Petersburg (depending on how it all happens - in any case, St. Petersburg is nearby). And since the route to Michurinsk is already known, we might visit again in September with Eric's permission ;) And I can also easily get to the final in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Minsk, or Michurinsk (depending on where it will be held) ;) I really want to watch the game and cheer!

We are waiting for a response from Vik and Sila. The final could be held at Napalm's place in Rossoni for the New Year's event, but will the organizers have enough time, and is it worth rushing things?

I think it's most expensive for guests to travel to Yekaterinburg; I looked at the map, checked the scale, and it made me feel sick.

Yes, it's quite a distance from Siberia to Yekaterinburg. It takes a day by train from Novosibirsk. And the price is accordingly high. But we also have some good Heroes players. Dirty_Player, Dust, maybe someone else. Relatively close to us are Barnaul and Kemerovo, and that's Dreamcatcher, Deep Mike... Just off the top of my head. I'm sure they can think of many more. Maybe, if we get a decent number of people interested, we could hold a qualifier in Novosibirsk? I think that would be preferable for the Siberians. And Yekaterinburg has plenty of its own Heroes players :)

Yes, traveling from Siberia to Yekaterinburg is quite a distance. It takes a day by train from Novosibirsk. And the price is accordingly high. But we also have some good Heroes players. Dirty_Player, Dust, maybe someone else. Relatively close to us are Barnaul and Kemerovo, that's Dreamcatcher, Deep Mike... Just off the top of my head. I'm sure they can also remember many others. Maybe, if we get a decent number of people interested, we could hold a qualifying tournament in Novosibirsk? I think it would be preferable for the Siberians. And Yekaterinburg has enough of its own Heroes players :)

How many people do we need to gather to hold a qualifying tournament? And is there a regulation at all? I mean, 10 people have responded in this thread, does that mean there's no interest or no promotion? I'm also in favor of Novosibirsk. I calculated that it takes a day to get to Yekaterinburg and a day back, three days there, a week out of my life, and it's not so much the financial aspect that's important, but the time factor, although I think for many, the financial aspect plays a more important role. Therefore, if the event does take place, we need to recruit potential participants in Novosibirsk as well.

We are waiting for a response from Vik and Sila... The final could be held in Rossone, perhaps even around the New Year, but will the organizers have enough time, and is it worth rushing things?

I really hope you, guys from St. Petersburg, will do it. I've been to your finals twice and know how great everything is. I think that if you decide to do it, Moscow and Minsk will also support the championship.

Regarding the timing, it's up to the organizers of the qualifying tournaments to decide; we'll figure it out together.
I think the most realistic timeframe for the final is:
at the earliest - during the January holidays,
at the latest - during the May holidays.

Within these limits, we can definitely hold all the qualifying tournaments and then the final. We'll decide together where to hold the final.

Yes, it's quite a distance from Siberia to Yekaterinburg. It takes a day by train from Novosibirsk. And the price is accordingly high. But we also have some good Heroes players. Dirty_Player, Dust, and maybe others. Relatively close to us are Barnaul and Kemerovo, and that's Dreamcatcher, Deep Mike... Just off the top of my head. I'm sure they can think of many more. Maybe, if we get a decent number of people interested, we could hold a qualifying tournament in Novosibirsk? I think it would be preferable for the Siberians. And Yekaterinburg has enough of its own Heroes players.

Yes, that would be great. You have so many great Heroes players in your region; it would definitely be a strong qualifying tournament, and it would be easy to organize. Dust came to St. Petersburg, and Dreamcatcher visited me, traveling halfway across the country, if not more.
In general, I ask you to talk to the guys... and we're waiting for an application for the qualifying tournament.

How many people do you need to gather to hold a qualifying tournament? And is there a regulation at all? I mean, 10 people have responded in this thread; does that mean there's no interest or no promotion?

You don't need 10 people; even 6-7 will do, those who can take on organizing championships in their regions. Then, the person uses their personal connections in the local community, talks to friends and neighbors. That's it, the qualifying tournament is ready. Yekaterinburg only needed to post once - "we'll do it," and that was it. And we in Michurinsk are ready to host a qualifying tournament.
Based on experience, I can say: 12 people is the minimum for holding a full-fledged tournament using the Swiss system, which guarantees both sufficient participation (by Heroes standards, of course) and a good atmosphere.
Even better is 14-16 people; it's the most convenient number, proven: it's not too many, but it's not too few; the best tournaments come out of it.
Regarding a larger number of people (not in St. Petersburg and maybe not in Minsk), I don't know. But the organizers can gather at least 10-12 people.

I can definitely come to the St. Petersburg qualifying tournaments (depending on how it all happens - in any case, St. Petersburg is nearby). And since the route to Michurinsk is already known, perhaps in September, with Eric's permission, we can visit again.
And I can also easily get to the final in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Minsk, or Michurinsk (depending on where it ends up being held). I really want to watch the game and cheer!

Tanya, if you knew how much I wanted to see you, Sasha, and Yura. We're waiting in September; this is an official invitation to the championship.

Yes, that would be great. You have so many talented players in the region; it would definitely be a strong qualifier. And they're easy to get motivated.
Dust visited St. Petersburg, and Dreamcatcher visited me.
In short, please talk to the guys... and we'll wait for applications for the qualifier.

Well, I don't know that many people. I think Kostya will chime in; let's see his reaction. If he agrees to organize it, he can count on my help. And let's wait for Dust to return from the taiga; he should be back in a few days.

Moscow. The supposed organizers of the qualifier are Pit for LM, Stinger, and DVStranger. The game version seems to be SoD.
Possible problems – the organizer. Since Chaos left Moscow, there have been big problems with this. Stinger and DVStranger are excellent players, but they have never acted as organizers. Pit is a brilliant organizer, but will he be able to handle a club tournament without experience?

Pit cannot take on such responsibility. "Without experience" is not entirely accurate. I have never been to a computer club in my life((( Not to mention the huge number of issues that will need to be resolved. I once participated in organizing a small sports event. There was support from the district administration, sponsors, a standard regulation, and ready-made judges, and even then, the whole club was in an uproar for a week. I thought about it for a long time and realistically assessed my capabilities, time, and financial resources – I can't handle it.
I could visit someone and participate in an event that is already fully prepared; it would be an interesting event.

It would be interesting if someone could host a gathering where everything is already prepared.

2 Pit for LM.
This is a major problem in Moscow. There are many strong Heroes players, but after Lesha Chaos, there hasn't been a single organizer. St. Petersburg and Minsk have organizers, so if they want to, they can hold their standard championship. But I doubt you'll be able to organize a qualifier; I hope I'm wrong.

Then you'll have to participate in other qualifiers if you can't organize your own: St. Petersburg, Minsk, Michurinsk.

There is still someone named SAG living in Moscow – he is the head of WCL (an international league of heroes). He was also organizing something. Maybe he will agree.

Well, I don't know that many people. I think Kostya will join the discussion; let's see his reaction. If he agrees to take on the organization, he can definitely count on my help. And we'll wait for Dust from the taiga to return; he should be back in a few days.

Regarding the organization, it's a very serious matter. I can't take on that responsibility. Besides, Dust and Catch are older and more experienced. If the tournament is in Novosibirsk, I guarantee my participation as a player, and I might even find some other local players.

There's still a guy named SAG living in Moscow – he's the head of WCL (an international league of heroes). He was also organizing something. Maybe he'll agree.

Stiky, thanks. If possible, give him a link to this topic or his ICQ number, I'll contact him and talk. Because there are many players in Moscow, all local, no need to accommodate anyone, the deadlines don't match, we just need a person who can negotiate with the club and conduct the draw.

We are waiting for a response from Vik and Sila.

The answer is as follows: first, we need to conduct a survey among players on the following topics:
1) Is there a desire to participate?
2) When is it possible to come (at least for 5 days, otherwise it doesn't make sense)?
3) Where is it possible to come (in terms of money and time)?
4) On which versions of the game are you willing to play?

My answers:

1) Yes
2) New Year's holidays (if I get leave from work), as well as in spring/summer if I take a vacation.
3) Anywhere within the European part of the USSR
4) TE-full (preferably), TE-light (acceptable), I will not play on SoD 100%.

If, based on the results of the survey, a sufficient quorum is gathered, then we can start organizational activities.