Pop music and your opinion about it. — Music

КостяN

7/26/2009 7:56 AM UTC

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Ergon

So, are they just Animals? What is this? Is it rock? Or is it a hit song by a bearded rocker about autumn? I, for example, am not ready to classify it as rock.

And this is unnecessary!:p By the way, Shevchuk himself called this song something like a tribute to "pop music"! Although it has long become a classic. Well, let's say it was liked by housewives and similar people at the time, but is that really an indicator? For example, when I was still a schoolboy and a bit of a punk:D, I was shocked when my mother liked some songs by The Offspring, and I think "The Fool and the Sun" by Alice, although she is a complete pop music fan - so this is already a serious reason to suspect this music of being pop?:)

Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:

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Ethereal

7/26/2009 8:16 AM UTC

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KostyaN

For example, when I was still a schoolboy and a bit of a punk:D, I was shocked when my mom liked some songs by The Offspring and, in my opinion, "The Fool and the Sun" by Alice, even though she's a complete pop music fan – so this is already a serious reason to suspect this music of being pop?:)

This is not surprising. Rock, although it causes disagreements, but everyone and always agrees on one thing – it doesn't irritate! That's what ROCK is! :D But with pop, things don't work out. Sometimes you can't understand what they're singing about, and as for the music...:smile18: That's what pop is!:D

By the way, pop music didn't get its good reputation by chance...:smile17:

Вдруг, откуда ни возьмись, ниоткуда не взялось.

Музыкальное оформление.

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WishmasteR

7/26/2009 8:41 AM UTC

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An interesting topic has come up...

WhiteLizard

it's not just about sticking to the popular ones (pop metal? well, no thanks)

Well, I wouldn't say that. Out of what you listed, only Knights and After Forever could be considered that (and even the latter, with a stretch). Although I consider myself a fan of symphonic/power/gothic metal, I haven't heard half of these bands (Kerion, etc.), not even the songs, let alone the names :eek: (by the way, I need to listen to them).
For me personally, among the "not-so-heavy" metal bands, Blind Guardian (speed/power/progressive), Sonata Arctica (power/progressive), Rhapsody (sympho power), Epica (sympho/power/gothic) are at the forefront. They are considered quite well-known, but before I started listening to, for example, Blind Guardian, few of my acquaintances knew about their existence.

And anyone who calls Melnitsa pop is clueless about music.

It's not surprising. Rock, even though it causes disagreements, everyone will always agree on one thing - it's not irritating! That's what ROCK is! :D But with pop, things don't work out. Sometimes you can't even understand what they're singing about, and as for the playing...:smile18: That's what pop is!:D

And I completely agree with that :smile20:

Freud

7/29/2009 8:15 PM UTC

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As a psychiatrist, I can state that most pop music performers suffer from imbecility. And that says it all.

Любовь и атомное оружие, братья, любовь и атомное оружие.

Amko

7/29/2009 10:19 PM UTC

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I'll just leave this here:cool:

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WhiteLizard

7/30/2009 3:15 AM UTC

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Don't say that.

Well, yeah, I just casually mentioned it; of course, it's not pop music =P. By the way, out of the bands you mentioned, I've listened to all of them, but I didn't really like them that much, maybe except for Sonata Arctica; Epica just doesn't appeal to me =/

Anyone who calls Melnitsa pop music clearly doesn't understand music.

:smile04: Oh yeah, we have trolls like that.

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Майор Вихрь

7/30/2009 4:52 AM UTC

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WhiteLizard

:smile04: Oh yeah, we have trolls like that. %)

Why not? Don't you think so yourself? :rolleyes:

O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal

WhiteLizard

7/30/2009 5:54 AM UTC

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Really?!

I like how Helivasa sings, and I like everything in general.
Melnytsa is just something to listen to for fun; not everyone will understand what it's about, and they won't even want to understand it. Because they like their crappy rapper, and everything else is garbage! I don't know, I'm mostly tolerant of different kinds of music.

And by the way, what do you think about rap? ;) Let's troll:smile04:

За всем следят машины благодати и любви.

Майор Вихрь

7/30/2009 6:23 AM UTC

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I'm generally indifferent to rap. Although sometimes the lyrics really don't appeal to me; they often sing such nonsense :( But this is our domestic rap. I've never delved into the lyrics of foreign artists, although there were times when I listened to individual songs and liked them. That's how it is :)

O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal

Freud

7/30/2009 7:33 AM UTC

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*Vomits* God! Don't even mention that heresy, Lizard!

Любовь и атомное оружие, братья, любовь и атомное оружие.

WhiteLizard

7/30/2009 8:00 AM UTC

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I'm generally indifferent to rap. Although sometimes the lyrics are just really annoying, they sing such nonsense. But this is our domestic rap. I've never delved into the lyrics of foreign artists, although there were times when I listened to individual songs and liked them. That's how it is.

And by the way, I just remembered, a girl told me recently that there's a genre that's like rap, but they recite beautiful poems, the lyrics of classics, and it's supposedly "Cool!!!1" :) By the way, it would be interesting to listen to it, I'll put it on my unlimited plan...)

*Vomits* Oh God! Don't mention this heresy, Lizard!

I remember in 5th grade, we, the "coolest guys in the neighborhood," would gather together and blast Discoтека Авария on the whole street:smile04: Hey DJ!:D And back then it was cool, now it's just nostalgia).

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Ethereal

7/30/2009 8:41 AM UTC

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Rap didn't appeal to me right away. Especially the pure (black) kind. Our guy listened to it, and his ears immediately perked up. It's obvious – it's written haphazardly. Many cite complex lyrics as an argument in favor of rap, but I'd rather listen to Vysotsky or Okudzhava.

Of course, there's also the so-called "Metallic Rap," similar to Limp Bizkit, but that's a completely different thing. Now that's something I can get into!:D

Вдруг, откуда ни возьмись, ниоткуда не взялось.

Музыкальное оформление.

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Wistrit

7/30/2009 2:32 PM UTC

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I don't see anything wrong with the Rap style itself; it's more about its performers... :smile08:
shoot them
But there are some very good ones; I like Sixtynine.
In general, the underground scene is cool.

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

Tengro

7/30/2009 4:42 PM UTC

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Unfortunately, as a person who grew up in a typical rock-and-roll town, I firmly learned from a young age the formula:
"Rap = *a three-letter word starting with 'K'"*
Attempts to listen to rap led to intense HATRED for this "genre" because of the excessive amount of negativity, swearing, "just a tough guy's life," and attempts to sound like serious music (I won't even mention the lyrics; if you want intelligent lyrics, listen to "Metallica," "Nirvana," or Vysotsky). A similar reaction arose towards the so-called "alternative" music.
Pop music, for the most part, evokes similar associations. HOWEVER, there are exceptions that are pleasant to listen to when you just want to relax.
Russian pop music, as well as Russian rap, and even what some alternatively gifted people call "rock" ("Ranetki," "Bratya Grimm," "Origami") makes me want to take and... well, you get the idea :-)

P.S. And regarding "Melnitsa" - my respect to you, gentlemen. But let's not confuse "Melnitsa" from the "Pereval" era with the current one. IMHO, the current one "doesn't resonate" with me. It's not pop yet, but still...
P.P.S.
I sincerely hope I haven't offended anyone.

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