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Posts from SoY-5: Online Tournaments "Seasons of year" - "Seasons" - Spring Season 2009Auto-translated
Dear gentlemen!
The SoY Spring 2009 tournament is over. The Tournament Committee plans to hold the "Seasons" Autumn tournament, as the name suggests, in the autumn of 2009. We will start refining the rules and maps in early September to avoid any complaints during the tournament. We hope for the help, advice, and participation of KobRa_RR, Wicc, Captain, as well as our regular players and all those who wish to participate.
Thank you all for participating, and congratulations to Roman and Artem on their prize-winning places. It's nice to see the tournament newcomer, Psyche_7, in fourth place. Andrei and Alex, don't be upset; summer is not the best time for tournaments. We can't postpone it any longer; we need to start a new one soon, and I'm sure everyone will play in a disciplined manner and on time.
ewgeniy
The strongest players in this tournament are eligible for a t-shirt. By the way, I already owe a couple of t-shirts to Pete, one to Alex, and one to Andrei:smile04:. Please write your size next to your ICQ number:D
Well, at least one? XL? :smile43: Although, as Vasily Terkin said:
- No, guys, I'm not proud.
Without looking too far ahead,
I'll say: what do I need a t-shirt for?
I'd be happy with a medal. (C) A.T. Tvardovsky.
Good luck to everyone!
Dear Sirs! The SoY Spring 2009 tournament is over. The Tournament Committee plans to hold the Autumn tournament "Seasons" in accordance with its name - in the autumn of 2009.
But the question arises: Is SoY needed twice a year? The activity is very low. Maybe it should be limited to only one season?
Or maybe just merge the SoY branch with regular tournaments? Even such experienced players as Captain didn't notice the tournament. Of course, those who are looking for it will always find it, but maybe it's not worth breaking the tradition... After all, this was the first ONLINE Tournament that appeared on our forum.
I don't understand why I was awarded technical points instead of technical wins in the cases of Pete and Alex. I offered them games, but they didn't offer to play via ICQ. What principle is used to award technical points, and to whom should they be awarded?
Determining a winner when more than half of the games haven't been played is, in my opinion, an insult to the tournament :smile38:. I suggest, if possible, to approach this with understanding, extend the deadlines, and finish the tournament.
be understanding, extend the deadlines, and finish the tournament.
Andrey, why didn't you mention in the tournament thread that you tried to play with everyone? The results are displayed this way because the tournament is called: SoY Spring 2009!! More than half of the summer has already passed. How much longer can we delay it? In general, in such cases, when opponents drop out of the game, you need to write on the forum, not wait until the last moment. Why not write to your opponent something like: "*HI* Hello, want to play a match?", instead, write: "Hello. Let's agree on when we'll play the SoY tournament", and do it in advance! Then it will be clear who is delaying and who is not.
Added 5 minutes later Ethereal
Well, here. And the tournament passed without me. I'm not surprised.
When will I be able to participate in it?
I'm busy 5 days a week!
There are many tournaments. Keep track of the deadlines. They are usually indicated in the first post of the thread.
Since the topic has come up, I'll share my opinion. Andrey, if you think that everyone will immediately recognize such a phrase as an offer to play a tournament, you are deeply mistaken. That's one thing. And secondly, is it okay to write something when I'm offline and then say that I didn't want to play? In 2 out of 3 cases, that's exactly what happened!
Since the topic has come up, I'll share my opinion. Andrey, if you think that everyone will immediately recognize such a phrase as an offer to play a tournament, you are deeply mistaken. That's one thing. And secondly, is it okay to write something when I'm offline, and then say that I didn't want to play? In 2 out of 3 cases, that's exactly what happened!
Since the topic has come up, I'll also share my opinion: maybe instead of "hey game?", it would be better to ask beforehand - what time is best to schedule a game?, and it would also be good to somehow warn opponents - like "I'm leaving soon, let's finish quickly" and then there are some unclear arguments - that they were ignored.... And if there is no answer, don't hesitate - write in the thread.
I found out about my departure a day before it happened. It's difficult to arrange games in advance because, besides games, I have a lot of other important things to do, and I don't like to make promises I can't keep. I suggest playing via ICQ when I have time. Why don't I specify that I want to play a tournament game? For two reasons: 1. I have a template for suggesting a game. 2. If I suggest a game to an opponent with whom we have a tournament game scheduled, it's obvious that the tournament game is the priority and that's what we're talking about. I have no complaints about Spirit and Javdet; they responded to my messages. No offense to Pete, but consider this: only 6 out of 15 scheduled games have been played. Is it fair to determine a winner like that?
For two reasons. 1. I have a standard template for proposing a game. 2. If I suggest a game to an opponent with whom we have a scheduled tournament match, then it goes without saying that this match is the priority and that's what we're talking about.
I also think that people here are adults and understand what we're talking about; excuses like "I didn't know," "I didn't mean to" don't work, IMHO.
Chronologically. The group draw was held on May 30th. /post/256905/ On the same day, the tournament dates were determined: /post/256776/Pit for LM
There is a deadline of 5 weeks for all games – 1 week per round. Please don't fall behind; being ahead is welcome.
Setting longer deadlines would mean playing through spring until September. That is, 1 week was given for each game – enough time to arrange and play.
Next, read topic /topic/6162/. I conducted a poll there regarding organizational matters:Pit for LM
5. Do you agree in advance about a tournament match with your opponent, and when do you start doing this? There is almost complete agreement here. The vast majority of players prefer to agree beforehand and immediately after the draw.
3. At what time of day (Moscow time) and on which days of the week do you prefer to play online HOMM3 tournament matches? Most try to arrange for daytime (12-24) on weekends - this is the most preferred time. Next are evenings (19-24) on weekdays. There are those who play at any time, but by prior arrangement. Only night or only working hours are the least popular. Therefore, in the Rules we will focus on the preferred time: weekdays - evening (19-24), weekends - during the day (12-24). We will обязательно indicate the possible time for playing in the tournament application.
4. How much time do you usually need and have available for 1 tournament game? Both from the survey and from Best's experience and other tournaments, one week per game is enough for almost everyone. But under certain circumstances, it may take 2 weeks. For some reason, no one said that they never meet the deadline. Although experimental results sometimes say the opposite.
Eight days after the draw, when 1 game should already be played: /post/258782/ your questions appeared:bRitvo4kA
Do I have to play rounds in order? Can I play round 3 or 4 if there is an opponent ready?
Andrey, I replied to you within 3 hours. And before that, in the message you deleted, you asked when you could start playing, and I answered in PM that 1 game should already be played.
You played your first and only match on June 20th, i.e., in 3 weeks you found time for 1 game.
It has been 3 weeks since the draw. Dear finalists! At this point, each of you should have played 3 matches, but we have only 3 games total. We won't make it by New Year... Psyche_7 and Pit for LM - owe 1 game; bRitvo4kA and Javdet - owe 2 games; Alex_R and SpiriTT - haven't played a single game in 3 weeks. You can play in any order, but not playing is not an option. In a week, I will have to assign technical defeats in round 1 to those who don't play a single game.
ewgeniy
Does anyone want a t-shirt?:smile42:
After that, until July 17th, there are no messages on the forum except for an argument with Cobra.
What did I do as acting tournament administrator? I communicated with almost all players from SOY and Best. And also with Andrey. Starting June 6th – Best, there were problems with the games. Then I asked about SOY too. Pit ?(06/19/2009 8:16): Hi! When will you play at Best? There are only 3 days left. And in Times of War, you should already have 2-3 matches played... bRitvo4kA ?(06/19/2009 12:28): Hi, maybe on the weekend Pit ?(06/19/2009 12:28): ok, try
According to the logs that you, Andrey, posted, you didn't make any attempts to agree with your opponents; the first offer to play was made by you on June 20th. What happened before?
Personally, I received an offer to play on Wednesday morning, but I was at work (strange, isn't it?): bRitvo4kA ?(06/24/2009 11:15): *HI* Hello, want to play a match? Pit ?(06/24/2009 11:15): Hello! I can't right now
And another offer was for offline play; what's so strange about me not responding to it? bRitvo4kA ?(06/26/2009 20:43): *HI* Hello, want to play?
You don't want to arrange in advance, and I can't guess a time that is convenient for you.
Those who wanted and could play more or less met the deadlines. Alex warned that he had problems with his schedule and agreed to technical defeats. When people sign up for a tournament, they primarily focus on the regulations. If there is no opportunity to play, then they shouldn't participate, and you cannot rely on endless extensions. Now Nadal will come running and say: I rested, I am ready to play my Wimbledon matches, let's find opponents.
Here is Evgeny's solution:ewgeniy
regarding the deadlines - they were already very flexible - if someone doesn't want to play, we can wait one more day and assign technical defeats. Unfortunately, my clanmates Alex and Britvocka are among those...
According to the logs you posted, Andrey, you didn't make any attempts to negotiate with your opponents; the first offer to play was made by you on June 20th. What about before that?
bRitvo4kA (18:54:53 14/06/2009) *HI* Hello, want to play a match? Javdet (19:03:31 14/06/2009) I'm playing
Peter, I offered you a game twice, but you didn't offer me a single game in 5 weeks. So, who needed to be reported for technical issues?
I don't want to interfere in something that's not my business, but I think Andrey is right! Pyotr, admit you're wrong, it will be more honest!:smile20:
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)
Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
Pit for LM
