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Registered: 6/13/2007

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#1101 5/21/2009 8:58 PM UTC

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You're calculating it wrong. Play action games.

No, I'm calculating it correctly. Dead end?

Amko, you're too fat, buddy. I was fighting trolls when you didn't even know the word. So, please, spare me these "subtle" jabs, provocations, and pseudo-answers. Anyone with a spark of intelligence can see them.

Ugh, you're disgusting, go away. Call me a schoolkid and a boor again, and I'll just cry.

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Registered: 12/18/2007

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#1102 5/21/2009 9:02 PM UTC

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The graphics are quite sufficient, even if they are just average.

That's true, but if the graphics are good, not just average, that's a plus, isn't it?

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Of course, there are plenty of "spoiled" gamers (I'm not talking about you, don't get me wrong), who only want great graphics, and if the graphics are bad, they immediately start throwing insults.

Those aren't gamers, they're complete noobs.

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If you think that RPGs should be judged by the size of the world

I didn't say that.

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What do you mean? They (except maybe Final Fantasy, which I haven't played) came out before Morrowind.

That's why you basically called Zubr a noob. But not all fans of TES in this thread (and in general) have only played their crappy Morrowind and modern trash.

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I have bad news for you...

Is that your favorite phrase?

Amko, these kinds of "replies" are such a tired method of trolling that I would be nostalgic for them if I wasn't so tired.

No, I'm right. Dead end?

Since ancient times, the best examples of the genre (Fallout, Planescape, Baldur's Gate, and thousands of others) were famous for their stories. Now, explain your position.

Ugh, you're disgusting, go away. Call me a schoolkid and a redneck, and then I'll just cry.

Even more so. This is pathetic.

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Registered: 4/18/2007

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#1103 5/21/2009 9:11 PM UTC

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If you truly believe that, then our conversation is pointless. You already have a flawed mindset, which needs to be corrected (but I'm too lazy to do it, and besides, it requires your cooperation, which I won't get).

Hmm, you initially have a flawed communication program and a cult of personality.
And to claim that the character progression system can be anything, even the worst, and the RPG can still be called at least good... well, that's where you should definitely stop.

I've been arguing with trolls since before you even knew the word. So, please, spare me these "subtle" jabs, provocations, and pseudo-answers. Anyone with a spark of intelligence can see them.

And here's proof of the cult of personality.

P.S., flies are attracted to sweetness too; it all depends on the type of fly.

Барон "Vampires"

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В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
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#1104 5/21/2009 9:16 PM UTC

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Hmm, you initially have an incorrect communication program and a cult of your own personality ingrained in you.

That's wrong! I don't cultivate a personality cult in myself, not really.

And to claim that the character progression system can be any, even the worst, and that the RPG can still be called at least good... well, you can definitely put a period there.

The Witcher has a terrible progression system, but it's a good RPG; you said that yourself. Maybe something is wrong here? :)

And here is proof of a personality cult.

Well, the fact that I argued with trolls when Am didn't even know that word is a fact, because the very first forum I registered on was a troll forum. And regarding a spark of intelligence – do you really think I don't have it? :(

P.S., flies are attracted to sweets, but it all depends on the fly.

Even more so! Flies that are attracted to sweets wouldn't be attracted to manure if there wasn't something good in the manure!
P.S. All flies are attracted to manure. They lay their eggs there, I think.

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Registered: 4/18/2007

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#1105 5/21/2009 9:25 PM UTC

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The Witcher has a terrible leveling system, but it's a good RPG, you said that yourself. Maybe something is wrong here?

That's not right. You misrepresented my statements. I never said that The Witcher has a bad leveling system. The combat system, yes, I don't particularly like it because it's "turn-based." I think the leveling system is quite normal, definitely not bad.

Well, the fact that I argued with trolls when Am didn't even know that word is a fact, because the very first forum I registered on was a troll forum. And regarding "a spark of reason" – do you really think I don't have it?

I don't know with what trolls you argued... I hope not with real, stupid ones in some stone cave. (If anything, I'm not talking about specific people you had conversations with. Otherwise, you'll misunderstand again;). And I was talking about the following – the cult of personality, in that you suddenly decided to "shut down" your opponent by telling them how "great" you are. I've argued with such people before, that Amich is not an authority for you. Now it's clear what we're talking about, troll-sparring partner?:)
Just in case you decide to bring up my first post as a counter-argument (saying that you're no better), I was just responding to your "attack" regarding the fact that everyone who thinks TES is a good game is a noob.

Moreover! Flies that are attracted to sweets wouldn't flock to dung if there wasn't something good in the dung!

Millions of flies will also flock to sweets. Everyone will flock to dung for testing. It seems simple, doesn't it?:)

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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#1106 5/21/2009 9:28 PM UTC

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That's not right. You misrepresented my statements. I never said that the progression system in The Witcher was bad. The combat system, yes, I don't particularly like it because it's too "button-mashy." But I think the progression system is quite normal, definitely not bad.

Most people (whose opinion you love to rely on) consider it bad. I'm one of them.

I don't know who you were arguing with and what trolls... I hope they weren't real, dim-witted trolls in some stone cave. (Just in case, I'm not talking about the specific people you were talking to. Otherwise, you'll misunderstand again.) The point was about the cult of personality, how you suddenly decided to "shut down" your opponent by telling them how "great" you are. I've argued with people like that before, that Amich is not an authority for you. Now it's clear what we're talking about, troll-sparring partner?

Am tried to "get" me with a simple, old, and tired trick. As someone who has seen even more impressive things, I was offended (does he think I'm an idiot?) and I explained the situation to him. No boasting, amigo.

Millions of flies will fly to the sweet stuff. Millions will fly to the crap for testing. It seems simple, doesn't it?

Millions of flies fly to sweet things, and millions fly to crap. Personally, I don't understand ANYTHING. Does this mean that sweet = crap? Or what?
By the way, amigos, neither in your posts nor in mine was there any mention of TES. I'm afraid this means you're trying to steer the conversation away from the topic (because the last mentions of Morrowind were from me). Either you're bringing the conversation back to the original topic (by responding to my arguments), or the argument is over.

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#1108 5/21/2009 9:31 PM UTC

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Since ancient times, the best examples of the genre (Fallout, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate, and thousands of others) were famous for their stories. Now, explain your position.

I didn't put Morrowind on the same level as Fallout and Baldur's Gate; they are very good games, but not because of their stories (I can only guess what Planescape: Torment is, probably something very awesome). I just said that TES is a good game. And you started a debate that lasted for several pages, with the goal of convincing everyone that it's a terrible game. Moreover, you only said something truly convincing about the story and dialogues (in my opinion, the only serious drawback of the series). If that's all, then we can really end our "conversation." And boasting about experience on the internet is at least impolite.
ps guys, maybe we can stop talking about flies?

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#1109 5/21/2009 9:33 PM UTC

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Everyone will come for testing. It seems simple, right?

Nope, not again. I recently heard a song on TV called "Silicon Brains," and it's strange, but they're testing this kind of garbage, and then, for some reason, they continue to listen to it. And this is no longer a matter of taste – it's pure crap. But since people listen to it, does that mean it's not crap anymore? :)

P.S. And I'm trying not to troll :o

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Registered: 4/18/2007

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#1111 5/21/2009 9:37 PM UTC

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Most players (whose opinion you seem to rely on so much) consider it to be bad. I am one of them.

O_O, that's quite a strange conclusion about my preferences. Oh well, never mind. Let's go through this step by step.
My thesis: in RPGs, the character progression system is important.

Your response: no, that's not true. In The Witcher, it's terrible, and you yourself said so.

My response: I was only talking about the combat system that I didn't like, but the character progression system was fine with me.

Your response: most people consider it to be bad...

What's the point of that argument? Why did you refer to my words if you're now switching to the opinion of the majority? O_o

Millions of flies are attracted to sweets, and millions of flies are attracted to garbage. Personally, I don't understand anything. Does this mean that sweets = garbage? Or what?

Let's break it down step by step.
Your thesis: all flies are attracted to garbage because that's their nature. Flies are also attracted to sweets, but not all of them (if we assume, correct me if I'm wrong, but flies definitely don't lay eggs in sugar).

My response (now in more detail): all people (or flies, whichever is more convenient) test a game before talking about it (this is like laying eggs).
If the game is good or excellent, it will be recognized by the majority (flies are attracted to sweets).
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Yes, there are many exceptions. But according to this "fly system," I think that's how it would be interpreted.

Барон "Vampires"

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Не думай, что будет потом,
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#1112 5/21/2009 9:37 PM UTC

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Bragging about one's experience on the internet is at least impolite.

Heh-heh-heh. Impolite is your attempt to troll me. Because if I were a noob, you would really troll me, and my self-esteem would drop (how could that be!? I had such brilliant arguments, and they didn't help! sniff-sniff). So don't troll first, muchachos, and I won't respond with "impoliteness."

in my opinion, the only serious drawback of the series

A gray, monotonous world. Combined with a poor plot, dialogues, and numerous lousy quests, this makes the flaws simply fatal.

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Registered: 4/18/2007

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#1113 5/21/2009 9:38 PM UTC

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Yeah, I think everything will work out fine.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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#1114 5/21/2009 9:41 PM UTC

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In The Witcher, she's awful, you said it yourself.

I meant that you said The Witcher is good, not that the leveling system is bad. Pay closer attention, amigo.

my answer (now in more detail) - all people (or flies, whichever is more convenient) before talking about a game, first test it (this will be the laying of eggs)

Flies don't just lay eggs there, they simply love crap. Eggs are just the reason why all the flies fly there, without exception.
And again, there were no words about TES in your post. Therefore, I disqualify you from our Special Olympics. The argument with you is over.

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Registered: 3/5/2007

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#1115 5/21/2009 9:41 PM UTC

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Tsuk, the fly system – a system for evaluating future games!)))

Be strong. Believe

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#1117 5/21/2009 9:43 PM UTC

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ыыыыыыыыыыыыыы)))
Read half of the last page...

Siverfail is a veteran, he fought trolls)
And flies, of course, are attracted to G, based on this, Fallout and everything else is G.
And everything in the world is G, except for Uwe Boll's films.

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

Registered: 3/5/2007

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#1118 5/21/2009 9:43 PM UTC

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Well, Zubr was disqualified and went to sleep, lol.
P.S. I'm glad I wasn't kicked out! I can stay a little longer.

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