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Yeah, I agree, practically the whole game is linear, but even with that, it's pretty good! And the story is decent.
If it doesn't involve saving the world/country, I'm willing to slightly improve my opinion of this game. But I'm afraid that's exactly what you're doing.
Overall, I liked The Witcher the most, although the combat system was a bit disappointing (target locking), it felt a bit simplistic. In my opinion, TES Oblivion is a little better. (The Witcher has a large variety of moves, but strangely, they feel monotonous.) And NWN 2 didn't really appeal to me. Although my last experience with it was interrupted by the system.
That's exactly what I meant. If your knowledge ends with NWN 2, The Witcher, and some modern trash, you don't understand RPGs (although The Witcher is quite good, and some moments in NWN 2 I really like). But the best of the best came out long before these games.
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
I have some bad news for you – the best RPGs (I’m not just considering my own opinion, but also the opinions of fans of other RPGs) were released BEFORE Morrowind, or at the same time as it.
Baldur’s Gate? Neverwinter Nights? Daggerfall? Fallout? Planescape? Tell me, how is any of them so FATALLY!!11 different in terms of superiority compared to Morrowind?
Tomorrow holds no promises Except the ones we've made
I have bad news for you - the best RPGs (I take into account not only my opinion, but also the opinions of fans of other RPGs) were released BEFORE Morrowind, or in the same year as it.
Kill? And what else will assassins offer you? Pat the victim on the head? O_O Sing a lullaby? This is just a banal nitpick. Morrowind is not a breakthrough... although it depends on what... but it's definitely not a failure. And the best RPGs of that time... Well, name a couple? Preferably something similar to TES.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
by the way, there are the most archers in Haven, because killing with a bow there is a pleasure)) in other RPGs, things are worse with this, but it also adds to the atmosphere of the world! can you really feel like a thief-assassin if you don't sneak in the shadows and hide from enemies, running around on rooftops))?
Baldur's Gate? NWN? Daggerfall? Fallout? Planescape? Tell me, how is any of them so FATALLY!!11 different in terms of superiority compared to Morrowind?
Umm... through the development of the plot and each quest individually. Unexpected, right?
Kill? What else will assassins offer you? Pat the victim on the head? O_O Sing a lullaby? This is just a banal nitpick.
Well, I was sincerely hoping that there was someone else in the game besides assassins. But if all the NPCs in the game are assassins, I withdraw my claims.
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
That's exactly what I meant. If your knowledge ends with Neverwinter Nights 2, The Witcher, and some modern trash, you don't understand RPGs (although The Witcher is quite good, and I like some moments in Neverwinter Nights 2). But the best of the best came out long before these games.
Hmm, you remind me of someone who appreciates Heroes 2 and 1, and puts down everything that came out later. That's silly. Where does it say that my knowledge ends there? The argument started with Gothic and TES. I said that I only played the 3rd part of Gothic, so I was comparing it to a later time. Best of the best in what?
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Hmm, I've also played a lot of RPGs, including some with Asian settings (I don't remember the names, but they weren't very good). There were also RPGs like Revenant and Avalon... maybe someone has heard of them?
Ummmm... By focusing on the plot and each quest individually. Unexpected, right?
Well, I sincerely hoped that there was someone else in the game besides assassins. But if all the NPCs in the game are assassins, I'll retract my claims.
Have you played TES4 Oblivion? If you have, then what's with this очередная глуповатая придирка (another silly nitpick)? Is there nothing to counter with? And if you haven't, on what basis are you making this comparison?
Based on Ar's post, I assumed he also meant the series of assassin quests, because, in my opinion, it's a very good part of Oblivion, if not one of the best.
Well, okay. There's also the Thieves Guild, where there were no killings (as a goal:rolleyes:). Or will you now write "steal, steal, steal"? It seems to be out of helplessness:rolleyes: The plot development is quite good in Morrowind as well. The plot missions were sometimes stupid, but the overall plot line is quite decent. In any case, it's subjective.
In general, in my opinion, the RPG genre is one where the best is yet to come, and largely due to technological advancements (yes, yes, that's exactly it, good graphics are very important here). The Witcher has demonstrated this quite well, combining a non-linear (or rather, branching) plot, good graphics, decent physics, a skill and spell system, etc.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Overall, I agree with Siver.
By the way, you shouldn't have brought up the graphics. It's the least important factor. For example, I find it more enjoyable to play text-based adventures in Rangers than to play an RPG with a barely decent plot, where the main goal is to level up your character, find cool gear, and kill enemies, BUT WITH GREAT GRAPHICS!!!
Sivvi, have you even played Morrowind? I played it a bit, and I can say that it's a great game.
Daggerfall was also a benchmark in its time.
Where does this hatred come from?
I haven't noticed that all quests in The Elder Scrolls boil down to mindless killing for "nothing." And even if we take Fallout: "Kill 100,500 Wanamingo in old mines, %username%!" "Kill the raiders."
Tomorrow holds no promises Except the ones we've made
In terms of role-playing, i.e., fulfilling the true purpose of an RPG.
Well, role-playing is best in tabletop RPGs. You won't find anything better. Siverfale
I would tell you who you remind me of, but you would be offended. So, I won't.
Go ahead, show some culture;)
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Overall, I agree with Siver.
By the way, you shouldn't have started talking about graphics. It's the least important factor. For example, I'd rather play text-based adventures in Rangers than play an RPG with a more or less decent plot, where the main goal is to level up your character, find cool gear, and kill enemies, BUT WITH GREAT GRAPHICS!!!That's an MMORPG:D
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Have you played TES4 Oblivion? If you have, then what's with this очередная глуповатая придирка? Is there nothing to counter it with? And if you haven't played it, then on what basis are you making this comparison?
I don't understand something. What's so глупо in my придирка? I just don't understand why most of the quests boil down to killing/destroying various people and creatures.
Based on Ар's post, I decided that he also means the series of assassin quests, because, in my opinion, it's a very good part of Oblivion, if not one of the best.
If the best part of any RPG is killing, then it's not an RPG.
Well, okay. There's also, for example, the Thieves Guild, where there were no killings (as a goal). Or are you going to say "steal, steal, steal" now? It's probably out of helplessness.
No, I don't care, honestly.
The plot development is quite good in Morrowind as well. The сюжетные миссии were a bit stupid, but the overall plot line is quite decent. In any case, it's subjective.
It's funny that you're barely defending the plot, justifying it by saying "it's subjective." It seems like I hit a sore spot?
In general, in my opinion, the RPG genre is one where the best is yet to come, and largely due to technological advancements (yes, yes, that's exactly it, good graphics are very important here). The Witcher has demonstrated this quite well, combining a non-linear (or rather, branching) plot, good graphics, decent physics, a skill and spell system, etc.
The Witcher doesn't have a particularly new engine. But it's a good RPG. Other modern RPGs have better engines, but they're bad. So, the plot is more important than technology, isn't it, amigo?
Сивви, have you even played Morrowind? I, for example, played it a bit, but I can say that it's a great game.
I also played it a bit, and now I'll say (the rules are already broken in this post, so...) - Morrowind is a terrible game.
And if you take Fallout, for example: "Kill 100500 ванаминго in the old mines @username!" "Kill the raiders."
Vanamingo is one of the most stupid quests, you're right to remember it. As for the raiders, you have to find them, kill them, hack the safe, find evidence of their connection to Bishop (i.e., you also have to go back to Bishop, unless you found their location on the map from his safe), present them to Lynette, manage to prove your point, and a whole lot more. But a stupid character could always just kill the raiders and forget about it. Freedom of choice is paramount.
Well, role-playing is best in FRPG. You won't find anything better.
I know that you won't find anything better. Nevertheless, I would like to have the opportunity for proper role-playing in CRPG as well.
Just say it, show off your culture.
You remind me of a person who has read a book for the first time in their life. Unfortunately, it was a book by Daria Dontsova. And after reading the entire series of her books, you are absolutely sure that there are no better books. Because you have read SO MANY books! I hope the parallel is clear?
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
Meg, yes, I also love King's Bounty and its text-based adventures. But sometimes, I just want to enjoy the physical experience of a fantasy world...
I really love Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights (especially the first one)... The graphics in Baldur's Gate aren't great, but I like them (maybe because they're not 3D, but drawn, I don't know), and the atmosphere is excellent, but that camera only allows you to look at this world from one angle, and I want to immerse myself in it more deeply, look at it from a different angle and get new sensations, and for that, I need graphics and physics, as well as a third-person view.
Siverfale
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