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P.S. I think it would be better to give the best from groups 3 and 4 a chance to compete in the final :) - I'm also waiting for comments.
I suggest the following:
The winners of groups 1 and 2 advance to the semi-finals, and the winners of groups 3 and 4 play tie-breaker matches against the second-place finishers in groups 1 and 2. This will give us 4 people for the semi-finals. I think that's the best option! :smile20:
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I don't understand, why are there groups now? Please explain the rules.
So, is it possible to reach the final even after losing all the games?
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1) each round lasts until 2 wins
2) one week is given for each round
3) the tournament system is group-based

I hope, Zhenya, the formula will change to something more reasonable.
I suggest two good options - play the quarterfinals in a knockout format until two wins. Or create 2 groups of 4 people, a kind of second group stage (I don't like this option, as I don't think group games are suitable for Heroes, but I will support it if other participants are in favor). People who took places lower than second should not play.
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It seems Evgeny wanted to create groups for players who are not performing well but have the potential to improve with a bit of luck. Reaching the final immediately is not ideal...

P.S.: I just spoke with Gunnar, and he doesn't have time to finish the game.

And I also wanted to express my dissatisfaction. Why were all the players who took first place in their groups placed in group #1, and those who took second place were placed in group #2? :eek: Perhaps it would be better to have two players from first place and two from second place in each group, for better balance.
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Why create groups for losers? Does everyone have tons of free time? Everyone had an equal chance. I could have just focused on technical aspects and then even claimed victory in the tournament. Let's clarify: are we playing a circus game, or a tournament?
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Why have groups for losers? Does everyone have tons of time? Everyone had equal chances. I could have just made tech wins for myself and then even claimed victory in the tournament. Let's clarify, are we playing a circus or a tournament?
You should be in a group with Forrest and Neo :smile06:, maybe your opinion would change. Just saying. As for the topic, the initial format was too strict; many people were eliminated from the tournament without even having time to fully understand the rules, so it might need adjustment. Also, I think the rules regarding game deadlines should be stricter. People who sign up for the tournament should either play their games on time or clearly explain the reasons for their absences; otherwise, tech wins should be awarded to their opponents without any sympathy, and this should be treated more strictly. IMHO.
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I'm very sorry, but I won't be able to play in the near future. Let Kostya-N continue playing; besides, he practically won against me, as the score was initially 2-1 in his favor. He simply didn't want to count the result of the third game.
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I also don't understand why another group tournament is needed.

It will just drag things out. And the tournament will die before it reaches its logical conclusion. The groups should be eliminated immediately, in my opinion, and that's it.
All IMHO.
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Guys, take it easy, I just wanted everyone who got eliminated to have a chance to play for the remaining spots, and I definitely got ahead of myself with the final – but we can give out a spot so that it's still interesting to play, for example, 3rd place.
The rules will remain the same; I just suggested an option, and whether you play it one way or another is up to you.
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You should play in a group with Forrest and Neo; maybe that would change your opinion. Just saying.
No, it wouldn't. I don't care who I play with.

So, after talking to the organizer, I decided to propose two options for the tournament format for a vote.
1. Play a direct playoff – quarterfinals. The first places play against the second places by draw.
2. Create 2 groups. Each group will have the 2 first places and 2 second places from the group stage. The 4 best players advance to the semifinals.

I'm in favor of the first option. The second option might be fairer, but it will take longer.
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I’m for the playoffs.
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1. Play the playoffs immediately – quarterfinals. The first places play against the second places by draw.
2. Create 2 groups. Each group will have 2 first places and 2 second places from the group stage. The 4 best teams advance to the semifinals.
Either of these options would be fine, as long as the draw is fair :D
If I had to choose, I'd go for the immediate playoffs!

By the way, it would be easy to award third place to the losing teams in the groups. I'm all for it!
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I'm for a playoff system.

And accordingly, the third place will be taken by the team that loses in the semi-finals, and then we'll play a match for third place.)
Just like in a normal tournament in any sport.
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in short, the following groups were formed:
Group 1
Neoandy
Britvo4ka
Oelm
Dirty_Player
Group 2
Rhox
Forrest
Volodymyr
KostyaN
Group 3
Mizrael
Wlk777
Medium
Gynnar
Group 4
Javdet
Maggot
vbn

Groups 3 and 4 will compete for 9th, 10th place, and so on.
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Но поскольку я нищий,
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Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
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I don't really feel like playing another group stage. There was nothing in the regulations that stipulated such a thing. Why should the tournament be dragged out for three months?
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Basically, here's how it turned out:
Group 1
Neoandy
Britvo4ka
Oelm
Dirty_Player
Group 2
Rhox
Forrest
Volodymyr
KostyaN
Group 3
Mizrael
Wlk777
Medium
Gynnar
Group 4
Javdet
Maggot
vbn

Groups 3 and 4 are competing for 9th, 10th place, etc.

And what are groups 1 and 2 competing for? And what are the rules?

P.S. Most people voted for a playoff system, but we're playing a group stage again: confused:
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