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vitalic (red, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) def Mighty_Vortex (blue, Castle, Vala, Nella) Jebus 136
I tried my best, and after the game I was accused of cheating. Until this Vortex apologizes in Russian, I won't play a second game.
About the game: my opponent generated 5 times, and all were slow roads. Then at level 10 both heroes rolled beauty, and this time there were normal roads and marksmen dwellings built! But I understand by week 1, day 1, turn 1 that I'm blocked. On one side, up to 99 demons guard an external dwelling of griffins and a Shield +2, and on the other road, up to 19 Scorpion Kings guard a Pandora's Box. I decide to level Valeska until week 1, day 1, turn 3, and then I can take a rest for the block. I found an external dwelling of archers and more griffins. At this point, external dwellings were over — definitely not Jebus Cross. Little gold, so I went for the Cavalry; by the end of the week I had a lot, but it was already too late to go for Angels. On day 1, turn 4, I broke through the demons and took a gold mine. I got Logistics. Hooray, third skill and Logistics right away, beauty — but it became Advanced only on day 1, turn 3, turn 3 (I took many skills and leveled them). The road to a secondary hero was long; I only took one on day 2, turn 1, I guessed the wrong direction — on the other road there was an external dwelling of Angels, and it was 3 times closer. On the second day 2, turn 2, I took a level 3 Griffin Conservatory. Then behind 19 upgraded Liches, an empty Pandora's Box — no Wisdom. Next, I gave away the shooters and into the tree for 6 Wyverns, and then went into a Dragon Utopia — it was the maximum, damn it, painful without shooters and magic. Then luck turned. Two Pandora's Boxes, each with 60 Marksmen — that's compensation for the lack of external dwellings. The end of the week is approaching; I think about what to do. I took a max-level Griffin Conservatory with a level 1 hero. I myself took a Dragon Utopia with 4 gold on day 2, turn 7; it gave banned Wings, a Sword +12, and a Helm +6 to all stats. On day 3, turn 1, I run to the GO, refill mana, and on day 3, turn 2, I break into the center. I see a Book of Air, but I think — since Fly and Dimension Door are banned, what's the point — I ran on. It turned out that near the book is the entrance to a Dragon Utopia. Skis back! On the next turn I cleared it. I took a Pandora's Box with all level 4 magic, but again no Wisdom and it's empty again. By day 3, turn 4, I had cleared the center. Scanning the ground, I see the path to the opponent goes through Inferno, and I go there. Two turns later, I catch up with Nella; she's on Champions. I have Shackles of War in my pocket but I don't equip them — I think I can beat her through tactics and Slow. But because I skilled Armor instead of Expert Tactics a second ago, she escaped. I catch up with a scout hero with an army — now I've got the Shackles ready!
Valeska 35 21 24 18 (78 mana, Expert Earth, Expert Offense, Expert Armorer, Expert Logistics, Expert Pathfinding, and Advanced Tactics, Expert Archery + Golden Bow, Cloak of the Undead King). Since you can't upgrade Angels from Conservatories, 6 Archangels, 9 Angels, 45 Wyverns, 27 Royal Griffins, 5 Champions (ate 5 in a home Dragon Utopia), 9 Fanatics, 224 Marksmen!!1

In short, I slowed everyone down, and my opponent didn't continue.
I won't say thanks for the game; it's a shame I don't know how to curse in English…

At Vitalik's request, I'm posting his game saves. We couldn't upload them to either his or my website, so I uploaded them to a file-sharing service. Tomorrow, I hope to sort out this situation with Black Knight. During the conversation with Vitalik, Vortex behaved extremely inappropriately; I didn't expect such behavior from Lithuanians. :confused:

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Isn't the issue with Müller in the game against the Lithuanian player? On turn 126, he captured a town and reached level 5 – maybe that's what was meant?:) What do the rules say about how the match was played?

2vitalic
How did you both start playing as Valeska? :)

Isn't it about Mullich in that game? In the game vitalic with the Lithuanian. On 126 he took the Griffin Conservatory and became level 5 - maybe that's what was meant?:) What are the rules for that match, under which it was played?..

Yes, Mullich at level 1 took the maximum conservatory, became level 5, I dismissed him the next day (according to the rules, absolutely precisely).
LT League rules:
SoD:
You cannot pick specialists in Logistics and Mullich as starting heroes and you cannot level them above 5.

there were complaints about how I found him without Expert Air Magic, I had Expert Earth Magic (a scroll in my backpack) and you can see which mines and so on are colored — it's easy to find the path.

We started — me as Valeska, him as Val — the money-grabber (the opponent chose first):smile19:

I started playing as Valerius, and he started playing as Valya – the money-maker (the opponent chose first):smile19:

As far as I know, Valya and Veleska are the same person :)
and the money-maker is Katya, also known as Caitlin;)

As far as I know, Valya and Veleska are the same person :)
and the treasurer, Katya, is also Caitlin;)

That's right, I'm just ignorant, ask me how much health the Master Gremlin has, and I'll probably struggle to answer. The main thing is that it doesn't affect the game! (Teach me some wisdom:smile49: )

Strange, on their forum there’s only the result and no discussion about any problems:confused:

You're right, I'm not very knowledgeable. Ask me how much health a Master Gremlin has, and I'd probably struggle to answer. But it doesn't really affect the game! (Teach me some wisdom:smile49: )

How about I take you on as my apprentice? ;)

Just kidding.
But all our online players have the same problem – they don't know the theory, they just win by trial and error. :)

P.S. As for the Gremlins, the amount of health doesn't matter. What's important is knowing that if a hero specializing in armor attacks a castle with 3 towers, they can eliminate 50 Gremlins in just a couple of rounds.

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vitalic 1-0 Vortex (SoD) 2sm4d/Jebus LIVE
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Vitalic's victory has been recorded. The further fate of the vitalic - Vortex match is still unclear. But I think a compromise will be found in any case. Although, of course, I haven't heard more stupid accusations of cheating than Vortex's accusations.

Vitalik's victory has been recorded. The further outcome of the vitalic - Vortex match is still unclear. But I think a compromise will be found in any case. Although, of course, I haven't heard more absurd accusations of cheating than Vortex's accusations.

As I mentioned before this problematic game, Vitalik is known among many Heroes players as a player who "almost infallibly determines the correct and most advantageous directions" and also as a master of "attacking with fast-moving heroes against the opponent." I don't think there is any basis for the accusations in this case; Vortex is probably very upset and has suspicions that he cannot prove. I think that to avoid unnecessary arguments, it would be easier to change the players on both sides. Of course, the result of the first game should not be canceled.

As I mentioned before, by the way, before this problematic game.

and in what way is it suddenly problematic?

Vitalik is known among many Heroes players as a player who "almost infallibly identifies the correct and most delicious strategies," as well as a master of "attacking with a group of powerful heroes."

irrefutable evidence, please.

Vortex is very upset and has suspicions that he cannot prove.

The Lithuanian captain, black_knight, himself said that there was no cheating here, and this topic is closed. And I consider the accusation of cheating with the words "Valeska scammed on Jebus, therefore Vitalik is a cheater" to be ridiculous and unworthy of a professional.

I think that in order to avoid unnecessary disputes, it is easier to change the players on both sides.

There will be no changes on World's side.

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and where exactly did it suddenly become problematic?

Do you really think there are no problems with this game?:)

irrefutable evidence, please.

Evidence of what? That Vitalik cheats? I didn't claim that. That people say that about Vitalik? I think no evidence is needed here. I only said that people talk about him, and Vitalik's last two games perfectly confirm that.

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And to the point — since you yourself write that the further fate of their match is unclear, yet you don't consider the game problematic, you're contradicting yourself. It wouldn't hurt to face the problem. That's one step towards solving it!

Really, you think there are no problems with this game?

If you compare it to other inter-portal communities, this game is the epitome of friendliness.

Proof of what? That Vitalik is cheating? I'm not claiming that.

Well, just be quiet, lol. We don't need your guesses and attempts to provoke flame wars, especially since incidents with unfounded accusations of cheating have been causing quite a few problems here lately. Don't pollute the thread; the only negativity I see here comes from you, and it's negativity that hasn't been provoked by anything.

World is not like Bai. Flame wars are strictly suppressed here, and 100% of your posts are attempts to provoke them. If you come to someone else's community, be kind enough to follow its rules.

To put an end to unnecessary arguments, I will answer.
He3Hauka is not anyone's clone.
I kindly ask you to calm down and conduct discussions constructively and in a calm manner.
Please discuss all questions not related to the topic in private messages.