Posts from Heroes 6 - Discussion

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And what old truths are you discussing? Fans of the series, casual players, graphics... Well, naturally. Only the WOG team and similar ones can work at a loss to themselves. People also work at Ubisoft, and they need to be paid salaries. What can you do if turn-based strategies don't pay for themselves? Although... if they had made "Heroes 5" well, it would have sold far more than a million copies. But they didn't: there are few monsters, the sea is not populated, the game lags a lot... Of course, there are also "pluses." But what's the point of repeating this... it's been said a hundred times already.
I still hope that the next "Heroes" game will be turn-based.

What's the point? Of course, you can bring up various situations and examples; everyone has been doing that for the past few years... because the environment forces them to. Series... fans... but what are they? And, first and foremost, who are they? Even Blizzard (I'm too lazy to switch to English :)) values those who appreciate its product. But what about Heroes? The only thing the creators of this game TRY to consider are the nuances that might deter the majority of gamers. Take WoG, for example; it was created by fans (I won't go into its drawbacks and possible advantages for some; that's not the point). And how did the creators of the "series" react to this? King's Bounty is a turn-based game. Do they want to see six heroes in it? I think that it's not just about graphics and simplicity. People constantly need something new, but something that doesn't deviate too much from what they're used to; something they can't do without. This contradiction of the majority of players' opinions has existed and will continue to exist. And, frankly, people will keep talking about it for centuries.

P.S. By the way, I definitely didn't mean to offend this game :) - King's Bounty

King's Bounty is a turn-based game. Is that what people want to see in the 6th installment of Heroes?

The main thing is that the 6th game should have what King's Bounty has – atmosphere.

Good luck.

In general, if the game is based on the Might and Magic universe and isn't turn-based, but something like Warlords, then it won't be called Heroes.

Heroes are originally TBS (Turn-Based Strategy), and I am absolutely convinced that they will remain so.

So, there is no reason to doubt this fact.

If we are expecting a Might and Magic product from the Hungarian developers, it definitely won't be Heroes.

The most important thing is that the sixth installment has what King's Bounty has – atmosphere.

Regarding the atmosphere, everything is clear – it is one of the main goals in the upcoming installment, because they simply don't have the right to risk certain "peculiarities" and change the atmosphere, as this would almost guarantee low demand for the product. This is not even up for discussion :), but it's better that way.

P.S. Sergey, I see you've started leaving the last word to yourself more often? :) (Good luck. (smile))

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As for the game, I have nothing more to say. I no longer play "Heroes 5"; when "Heroes 6" will be released is unknown. On one of the sites, I saw that people are collecting information about "Heroes 6" bit by bit and, based on it, making assumptions about the release date, the number and appearance of races, etc. Moreover, they justify their reasoning in great detail. Leviathan Ksar excels at this. Everyone is waiting. Hopefully, expectations will be met.

What can the creators of Heroes do to increase profits? Improve the graphics? Yes, this is what attracts most customers now. Among the old fans of the series, there will likely be mostly fans of Heroes of Might and Magic V. Moreover, many of them (fans of the fifth installment) prefer it to the third one precisely because of the graphics. Change the engine? Make the battles real-time, like in Warcraft or Total War. Many buyers will be attracted to this, but true fans will likely ignore this game, and the main phrase, I think, will be "this is no longer Heroes." And they are unlikely to accept the game as a continuation of their favorite universe. In any case, the developers (let's call them that :D) primarily think about the amount of money they can earn, not about the canon.

Moreover, many of them (fans of the fifth game) prefer the fifth game to the third one precisely because of the graphics.

Well, I wouldn't say so; most of my acquaintances from Nival (and I too) don't like the fifth game for its graphics; not at all.
And I think there will be few changes; no one wants a commercial failure like the fourth game.

New installments of Heroes are not made for the fans; patches and expansions are made for the fans. And let a cyclops throw a stone at me if the third and second games weren't also made with the intention of attracting new, casual players.

Let a cyclops throw a stone at me if parts 3 and 2 weren't also made with new, casual players in mind.

That's what I'm saying =).

And I think there will be few changes; no one needs a commercial failure like the fourth part.

If there's "super graphics" + a different engine, then the project is unlikely to fail.
More likely, a bunch of "hardcore players" who haven't even heard of HoMM 1-5 will show up.

If there's "super graphics" + a different engine, then the project is unlikely to fail.
More likely, a bunch of "hardcore players" will show up who haven't even heard of Heroes of Might and Magic 1-5.

Damn, from this, one can conclude that Nival Interactive cares more about attracting some newbie from outside than pleasing the fans of the series. :D
In general, I pray that the graphics aren't too flashy, because I'll have to upgrade my hardware. But I understand that it's naive to think so.
In my opinion, graphics aren't the most important thing, and can even be unnecessary.

I think that the sixth installment of the Heroes series is a bit premature. There's still a lot of work to be done on the fifth game. We need to keep working on it. We can easily stretch out the lifespan of the fifth game with a couple more expansions. We need new heroes, new factions, new units and monsters. New artifacts. New scenarios. Basically, everything. As they say, the best is the enemy of good.

Yeah, exactly. As they say, the best is the enemy of good.

That's precisely it :) So, why add to Heroes 5? It won't become better, it will remain good thanks to its fans. And Heroes 6 will probably not be the best either, so let them just make a good game :)

P.S. Of course, I want Heroes 6 to be similar to Heroes 4 :p :D

Well, I meant an expansion as a collection of new campaigns and maps, not just as a cosmetic update to the game. They could have added a new race, like in the third game, where there were some human-lizard creatures and tadpoles, one of which had an eye on a stalk that shot projectiles. (I later encountered it in King's Bounty). In other words, expand outwards, not sideways. And if the sixth installment of Heroes is in real-time, I'll give it a grand burial (bury the disc in the ground under a large stone, on which I'll write "here lie the prematurely deceased heroes").

Yeah, with real-time gameplay, the game could turn into just another generic thing.