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Heroes of Might and Magic IV is...
21 voters
Multiple choice Closed 2006-02-20
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A revolution in the series
28.6% 6 votes
Favorite game in the series
9.5% 2 votes
Failed experiment
52.4% 11 votes
They aren't heroes at all (what were NWC thinking?)
0% 0 votes
Just an upgrade for HoMM3
0% 0 votes
Other (please specify)
19% 4 votes
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17 years ago
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Maggot
No upgrades - a step back ;)
The lack of upgrades is justified by the already quite complex tactical phase. I believe that upgrades are a useful thing, enriching the game. But with the introduction of heroes on the battlefield, upgrades become somewhat less relevant.
Maggot
Where?
Hero leveling. This is a very expensive undertaking. Leveling up 5-6 heroes at a waltz pace is extremely expensive (trees, magical and non-magical universities, veteran guilds, libraries, schools of war and magic, conservatories, seminaries, etc.). Often, leveling is the main expense, sometimes even higher than the cost of recruiting monsters.
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17 years ago
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Based on the principle of "IgroMania" (since it gave it a 10)
Gameplay - 9.5
Graphics - 9
Sound - 10
Interface - 9
Replayability - yes
Originality - yes
Great story - yes
Easy to learn - yes
Total: 9.5 excellent
Well... this is just my opinion :)
17 years ago
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The gameplay balance is almost non-existent in version 4. Some units and heroes become so overpowered that they are essentially bugs. For example, a druid from the Castle faction can single-handedly destroy a castle, like the Quicksand Fortress. The financial aspect is also flawed: the Haven faction is incredibly wealthy, while the Dungeon faction is expensive and unprofitable. But overall, if it were further developed, it could have turned out great!
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17 years ago
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Wolta
The gameplay balance is almost non-existent in version 4. Some units and heroes become so overpowered that they are practically bugs. For example, a druid from the nature castle can single-handedly destroy a castle with quicksand. The financial aspect is also flawed: the Haven castle is incredibly rich, while the Dungeon castle is expensive and unprofitable.
To some extent, that might be true, but saying it's completely non-existent is an exaggeration. Mostly, it depends on the player – you can defeat anyone with anyone.
Wolta, also
But if it were further developed, it could be really great!
They are working on it; it may be slow, but they are making progress.
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17 years ago
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The game balance in version 4 is almost non-existent. Some units and heroes become so overpowered that it's simply a bug. For example, a Druid from the Nature Castle can single-handedly destroy a Quicksand Castle. The financial aspect is also flawed: the Order Castle is incredibly rich, while the Chaos Castle is expensive and unprofitable.
Unfounded remarks. Those who know how to play won't have such complaints about the balance. In the original Heroes 4, Nature was by no means the strongest race. It was simply strong among equals. A small example of the weakness of "overpowered Druids": in the regular Heroes games, Order magic works regardless of the line of sight, meaning Druids cannot hide behind summoned creatures. They can be hypnotized and forced to kill themselves with their own hands by attacking Phoenixes, for example.
However, the Order Castle is not particularly wealthy. No one levels up Lords in battles; experience is valuable for combat heroes. At most, they send Lords to collect all the free power-ups and try to raise their nobility to expert level (which rarely happens).
Chaos, on the other hand, has Thieves to maintain balance; you can gather far more resources than a slow, un-leveled Lord could.
In Equilibrium, it's difficult to argue that one race has an advantage over another... the balance is almost perfect. The problem is that a Tactician and a Runner have become essential for absolutely any army... but this is not a racial imbalance; it's an imbalance in the applicability of heroes. And you can easily come to terms with that. :)
Conclusion: play as different races, play against real people. There is no bad balance; there is only a poor skill level. :)
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17 years ago
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To be honest, I couldn't learn how to play it, and now I won't be able to. It's clear that the developers tried to move away from the overwhelming popularity and, at the same time, the "pop" nature of the third installment, trying to revive some lost atmosphere from the early parts of Heroes. They succeeded, in their own way. For some, it's a masterpiece; for others, it's nonsense. I understand that it's supposed to be something great, but it's not for me.
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17 years ago
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Yeah, some people still haven't learned how to play it properly :D, meaning, as they should. But that doesn't prevent them from giving their preference to the fourth installment. So, indeed, the issue isn't that. It's a matter of taste and perception. This topic really highlights that.
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17 years ago
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Pandora
Yeah, some people still haven't learned how to play it properly :D. But that doesn't stop them from prioritizing the fourth installment. So, indeed, that's not the issue here. It's a matter of taste and perception. This topic really highlights that.

I completely understand those who encountered the fourth game for the first time after being enamored with the third, gave up on it then, and now, with the fifth game available, won't even bother learning the fourth game's system. Why would someone who never really "got" the fourth game "delve" into it now, when there's a fifth game they can immerse themselves in and keep playing for a long time, learning and improving? We have to admit that the number of fourth game fans that exists now will remain the same (if not decrease, although true fans of the fourth game will never get tired of it): those who didn't have time to "get into" it back then won't bother with it now – there's the fifth game, a whole new world to explore. So, in conclusion, I'll say that there are few of us (fourth game fans), but with our strategic thinking (if we managed to master the fourth game), we can handle any installment.))
17 years ago
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I'm a big fan of this game; I like it even more than the fifth installment.
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17 years ago
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I treat it like any other unfinished project that pretends to be something more: it's amusing, but it doesn't make me want to play.
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17 years ago
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Regarding the game itself... It's a bit complex, but it's enjoyable with a beer. :) And the musical score is simply amazing! The compositions are so beautiful that they are a pleasure to listen to even without playing the game!:smile44:
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17 years ago
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And the musical score is simply amazing! The compositions are so beautiful that it's a pleasure to listen to them even without playing the game!

By the way, yes, I had that happen. I extracted the battle music (6 tracks) and put it into another strategy game (C&C).
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17 years ago
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I used them all! Then I put them in the third game. The result was amazing! I didn't have enough for all the castles, but I added some from Enin Brennan's repertoire. It turned out great! :)

At first, I didn't like the fourth game, but then I figured it out, and when things started to go well, and I got my first victories, my attitude changed, but not drastically. However, one campaign really impressed me. Dragons of Might and Magic. But that's the only campaign I liked. The plot is very good, with a hint of something more.

With the release of In the Wake of Gods, I completely abandoned the fourth game. As did many others, probably... It just can't replace Heroes 3. As a standalone game, it's very good... :D

Overall, my attitude is neutral. It's beautiful, but not always interesting.
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17 years ago
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It's a decent standalone game; you can play it.
But considering it as a continuation of the Heroes series is a mistake. It's a failure.
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17 years ago
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The game is good, but they added a bad backstory. I fought so much for Jela and Katerina, and then it turns out that it was all for nothing. Everyone died, and there is no salvation... Why do that?! And I was really upset while playing through Dragons of Might and Magic! No, that's not acceptable. In terms of the plot, the fourth game doesn't satisfy me at all. But overall, the game is good. :)

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