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Paladin@heroes.by

17 years ago

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Paladin Stronghold Greg-Heg (red) def Dudge Inferno Pirr (blue) 211

started almost without rests, played for one day, albeit with a break for some football.
111 external dwelling of ogres, decided to play
113 scouted the entire native territory, it turned out to be incredibly small, but we keep playing
115 ramp secondary town, still low on gold, had to build 2 markets and sell all resources, even crystals.
117 elves in the secondary town, rocs+ogres in the Citadel.
121 gnomes at 100 and greater ogres
122 went out to the blue secondary town, killed a scout, decided not to go deeper into the enemy territory but instead turned into a treasury, where I found 2 trees and a naga bank (+20)
123 Pirr runs out and heads full speed to my capital, had to urgently leave the treasury, having only managed to grab +2 to speed for 15 nagas.
124 The Citadel fell, taking 2 efreets with it, but Greg decided instead of staying put to go for the blue capital without having recaptured his own.
126 my secondary town also fell...(((
131 finally captured the Inferno town, bought 3 efreets, and nothing left to do there. Also took the enemy's secondary town, in short, a exchange of living space took place.
On the third turn, tried using chains to recapture my native Citadel, but the saw (sepka) was cut off, gave up and left for good to the treasury; as a farewell near the Inferno town, I took +4 wyverns guarded by 35 minotaurs
After a couple of days, Pirr intercepted his native town from the other side.
135 with an army of 4 wyverns, 7 rocs, 18 greater ogres, 3 efreets, we recapture +3 luck/morale guarded by 40 mages; tactics here helped, losing only 1 efreet.
137 with the same army, we defeat the guard of 91 greater hydras for a tree of wyvern (max level), losing the remaining efreets and -2+12 wyverns)))
141 naga bank of 20 nagas.
142 max wyvern dwelling
143 max naga bank.
145 I bring 30 greater gnomes and 50 greater centaurs and break the Dragon Utopia for wings
then via chains I return all the army to the last town and head with the boss to another Dragon Utopia
146 Dragon Utopia for +4 knowledge/power nonsense)))
147 I position myself between the third Dragon Utopia and the Inferno capital.
211 I can't reach the capital, I fly to the Utopia for Atam's Sword of the Titan and Air Book, meanwhile Dudge surrenders because he was expecting an attack on his town and just didn't want to skip turns anymore.
thanks for the game.

Pit for LM

17 years ago

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Samurai(blue,Rampart,Kyrre,Kyrre) def Pit for LM(red,Castle,Valeska,Galtran), 2sm4d(3),124

HB v HW

Good game, thanks to my opponent for it. TElite. There was one tricky tactical moment on my part: I saw a bypass route to my opponent's secondary town, and on turn 115 I split Kyrre (already level 7-8, about 3000 movement points) to catch my opponent during their expansion... Valeska, however, went the other way, and I had to go into the treasure zone. On turn 121 I transfer the purchased army via chains, but I messed up the heroes and an empty scout hero came to Galtran. I split, learn Expert Slow at home, go straight to the only Griffin Conservatory... On turn 122 it's taken: minimum. I think, crap, a loss, because my opponent has Galtran showing with at least two Angels. Back to the treasure zone, on turn 123 I enter, grab 8 Wyverns (in addition to the 8 already taken near home), and then on level-up I'm offered either Expert Wisdom or Basic Armorer... I grabbed Armorer and only then saw that there was a Pandora's Box guarded by Manticores nearby. I tear my hair out, thinking if it gives level 5, I'll never forgive myself. No, it gave level 4. Right then, my opponent is nearby, and a couple of moves away from him is an untaken external dwelling of Angels. I took it and then everything was decided... whether to stay here or Town Portal home — I had exactly 200 movement points. I decided to fight, exchanged resources for 8k gold, and wait for the attack. On turn 124, my opponent attacked.
Galtran: Expert Armorer, Basic Offense, 6-3-3(12), 2 Angels, 40 Archers, 5 Champions, 8 Wyverns, 17+1+1 Swordsmen
Kyrre: 4-15-3(21), Advanced Armorer, 15 Grand Elves (thinned out by a scout hero), 5 Unicorns, 16 Wyverns, 1+1 Angel, Necklace +1 to spell duration.
In the first round, my opponent covered the Archers with Horses, Angels, and Wyverns; both cast Expert Slow and shot with Archers; in the second round, a Meteor Shower for 175 into the meat pile, and the Wyverns with Angels and Unicorns finished them off.

Thanks for the game!

The territory given was small and there was very little gold, a pity I didn't take the Pandora's Box guarded by Wolves on the first turn — there were 5000 there, I thought it was a level 1 spell scroll. On turn 112, the only road leads to a Guarded Object (ГО), which had shifted and blocked the passage to my secondary towns. But there was a path off-road through the Gargoyles and a town (Conflux) which I took. I build a Tavern there — and a miracle! — Galtran is in the Tavern. Overjoyed, I decide to level him on the Mummies guarding the Teleporter, but I positioned incorrectly — there turned out to be nearly 50 Mummies, almost all the Pikemen and 7 out of 31 Archers are lost. On the other side of the portal — Storm Elementals, visible Tree and an external dwelling of Angels with weak guards. I give the army to Valeska; with shooting, she easily breaks through the passage underground; there are also treasure zones and blockers there; I go back to my side to grab at least a couple of chests, but there's no gold (the Conflux secondary consisted of a town and two mines, a tiny territory, I think there was only one chest total), I have to build 2 Marketplaces to afford Horsemen with a Citadel. No place to gather Skeletons either. I took and bought the external Swordsmen dwelling.
On turn 121, I buy a few troops and take the Dwarf Stockpile for 15. Then I go down to the Pandora's Box, where there is gold. The army is transferred to Valeska, who takes the Griffin Conservatory for 2 Angels. Galtran takes the Dwarf Stockpile for 20 and rushes through the portal into the treasure zone. But Kyrre gets there first, takes 8 Wyverns, the Pandora's Box with level 4 magic, and the external Angel dwelling. I attack, because the armies are roughly equal, the difference in stats was approximately compensated by Galtran's combat skills, and I have more Archers. But the Meteor Shower on the best troops ruined everything.
Thanks for the game.

Saves will be a bit later.

Pit for LM

17 years ago

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Here are the saves from my second game.
1) The actual file format is .7z (the forum doesn't allow attaching such files).
2) We played on TE; if TE isn't available, it probably won't load on SOD (it didn't load for me).
3) The compression was done using the method described on the forum here: http://www.forum.heroes.by/viewtopic.php?t=552, so the size of the unpacked files will be quite large. But the archive itself is very small.

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Деконтаминатор

17 years ago

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Decantominator (Blue, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) def Alone ekb (Red, Castle, Valessa, Valessa) 2sm4d(3) 135

Average start - Conflux captured on the first, Conflux and Stronghold in the capital - spell book bought in Conflux. On the second week, another Conflux and Necropolis in the underground. There were few gold-producing buildings - had major problems with money. Painted an external dwelling of Angels on the sandy treasure zone, no Griffins or Hives visible at all - on four respawns. Only managed to build Phoenixes by trading resources at four markets. At the start of the third week, I retreated and went to the nearest treasure zone - only stuck my nose into the cave when Tazar arrived at the built Conflux. It was a shame to leave it - retreated back and sat in defense. In the final battle I lost - Decan had 4 Angels and external dwellings of practically all tiers.

Alone ekb (Red, Castle, Valessa, Mephala) def Decantominator (Blue, Tower, Aine, Torosar) 2sm4d(3) 142

Fifth hero Mephala - in the folder. Secondary Necropolis, no external dwellings, took 20 Gnoll Marauders per stack, placed Conflux in the Stronghold - distracted in real life - that's why I also upgraded Swordsmen on the first week))). On the second, another Necropolis in the underground, was short 70 gold to place Angels in the Castle. On the third, 3+3 Angels, shield beaten +12/-3, and the opponent already on my respawn runs to my capital. Retreating there - placed Angels and laid low. Bought out Angels and attacked - in the final, Mephala's defense against Torosar's attack - the armor didn't let me down.

Alone ekb (Red, Castle, Valessa, Tazar) def Decantominator (Blue, Rampart, Kyrre, Kyrre) 2sm4d(3) 125

On day 113 arrived at the doorstep of my own secondary town, the next day painted it and upgraded the Archers. Tazar broke through to the underground (with a Necromancer block there) and then further through a portal emerged in the underground of the opponent's secondary town. I didn't try to break through to the surface to Kyrre ahead of time. Painted an external dwelling of Swordsmen, Tazar has Expert Logistics and starting Earth magic. At the start of the second, scouted 2 Griffin Conservatories on my secondary - both for 3-4 Angels. Tazar already Expert Earth - but without a spell book. Decided to retreat to the capital and, after buying the spell book, take the 2 previously revealed Griffin Conservatories there. The first turned out to be a triple - lost all the Spearmen and Conflux. Mass Slow was there - but Power only 1(((( Next turn replenished mana and took the maximum Griffin Conservatory, losing 1 Angel, all the shielding units, and several Arbalests. Kyrre rolled into my secondary and also ventured into the Griffin Conservatory - he already had an Angel and over 20 Grand Elves, but didn't risk breaking the Griffins. Tazar, meanwhile, took 6 Wyverns, guarded by up to 99 Medusas, headed towards the next Hive, from there planned to go to the Griffin Conservatory where Kyrre was hanging around. Apparently sensing Tazar's approach, or maybe because growth was brought in - Kyrre attacks the Griffin Conservatory and loses there - it turned out to be the maximum tier.

Thanks for the games! had a nice run...

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Paladin@heroes.by

17 years ago

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Paladin Stronghold Greg-Heg (blue) def Dudge Inferno Pyrr (red) 143 (2-0)
on the first bigs for castles +wolf growth +dwarf mine at 100
121 building market, dumping all resources, buying 3 bigs, 9 rocs, 48 wolves +33 cents for the eater+1+1+1 gr.goblin for distraction. with mass earth but without slow((( only bless., taking +3 angels losing 2 rocs and 1 big while saving all wolves ))),
122 for 62 gr.Elves +2 to speed, and nagbank at 15 nags.
123 losers fight off the dwarf mine at 100 and nagbank at 20 ))), and boss runs straight down the path into the underground secondary town.
124 gr.Bigs though only 2 of them )))
125 loser takes +8 wyverns, and Boss +3 angels and pandora for full first level magic, just right...
126 first secondary town taken
127 exited from there into another treasury where the exit to the red Inferno's secondary town should be, which was taken by reds since 114... on the way we take 3 trees cr.orb+boots of speed =total army= 2gr.big 6 angels 23 wyverns 50gr.wolves and Greg level 15.
131 I bring +2 bigs +6 rocs and 20 wolves and break into the red center. greg 16-11-7-9 (air earth tactics)
132 decided to check before taking cities if red took the Dragon Utopia, which I saw from the start of the first week and saw that he also saw it... turned out to be a fake, not a single artifact equipped, only +15% resist from relics(((
133 Inferno secondary town taken
134 main city taken
135 Greg via ГО(30 gr.bones) retreats to his respawn and hides in the treasury where a tasty pandora +Dragon Utopia and wyvern nests are visible.
136 last red secondary town taken+chased away all losers, except those who fled with the boss to an undeveloped respawn...
137 Greg finally gets full 5th in pandora+8wyv, and takes Dragon Utopia again a fake and finally they give the logist))).
141 I find the loser shadow from the entrance-exit of this underground treasury into the zone where Pyrr is going
142 Killed Pyrr and the loser.
143 red scouts committed suicide and let the paladin into the hall of fame where I was given the rank gr.Big Hippo, no awards for 2 years )))
thanks for the game.

Nagan-4

17 years ago

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So far, this is how things stand with Bay.

1. Nagan-4_______ - Roland from Gilead 0-2
2. Uran__________ - Stinger._____ 1-2
3. Mizrael________ - AlexTheGreat. 2-1
4. Pit-In sake of LM - Samurai._____ 1-1
5. Invisible_______ - Mike_Spb.___ 0-2
6. Scorp_________ - KobRa_Spb.__ The games did not take place.
7. Alex R_________ - Napalm_____ 1-1
8. Decontaminator - DC_Vasya.___ 0-2
9. Dudge_________ - Paladin _____ 0-2
10. Dubrovin Pavel - Markon._____ 1-2
The score is 6-15 in favor of Bay, and 1-6 in terms of team points. Only two pairs need to finish their match: the decisive matches are for Pit and Alex R! I wish our players victory in this difficult confrontation!
One pair never played, although they started twice; together with Roland from Gilead, they decided not to count the results of this pair.

Regarding the match with Portal. In our team, there is one substitution; instead of Nagan-4, the team's reserve player, Javdet, will play. I wish him strong spawns and good luck. Damn, his opponent is my clanmate, so I also wish Neoandy no less strong spawns and good luck; may the truly best player win.

P.S., I just received a message on ICQ that our player Pit-In sake of LM won the Portal Cup, where all the strongest Portal players participated, a total of 86 people. Congratulations to him!

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Alex_R

17 years ago

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Napalm (Red Castle Valesko resource) lose Alex_R (Blue Tazavrik art) 1-4-2 2sm4d3
Following the Heroes World rules, except for the respawn upon encounter (we decided to reduce it to 1-1-5), and we increased the limit to 6 minutes.
I used the respawn on turn 111, and then things started happening…
In the first week, I took 2 crypts and an external dwelling of gnolls. Built up to 1-4, level 6 in the castle + market +1000, although I could have built hydras in the stronghold.
In the second week, level 1 guild hall, forge, municipality, gorgons, hydras.
Expert earth + slow = so far only 1 angel :o
The red player broke through and revealed a bit of my respawn area (by the way, I still didn't see ГО, but the road led to Danzhevskaya secondary base, with a block of 3 monsters standing on my side: many Greystone Gargoyles and Elves, and a horde of Gnomes. In the first week, I bumped into them and turned back home. :smile35:
On turn 131, I build a capitol. :)
I see that my opponent takes a conservatory on dirt and heads towards another one, already near my respawn point. :smile27:
I rush to take 2 conservatories near my castle, regardless of what they are; it turns out to be +2 and +3 in Pandoria +5000 experience.
From 1-3-2 to 1-3-4, I did all this and retreated to the castle because Valeska is already 5 squares away from the castle with a group of angels, but I also have a decent group...but I didn't dare attack in the field; I only had enough mana for 1 spell, and besides, I wouldn't be afraid in the castle – I built war towers +2 defense :D
1-3-5 After much deliberation, Valeska attacks Tazavrik in the capital.
Valeska 7-4-10 (8)
5 angels, 9 champions, 17 crushers, 17 royal griffins, 2x40 archers, 80 pikemen
Tazar 5-8-2 (40)
6 angels, 6 ducks, 12 greystone basilisks, 6 dragonflies, 3 hydras, 40 gnolls, and 36 greydrake lizards.
The opponent cast 2 arrows at 110 HP each, while I used mass slow and an arrow targeting 80.
I lost 2 angels and 6 dragonflies, killed 2 angels, all the griffins, 50+ archers, 1 champion, and a couple of crushers. + received about 15,000 gold as ransom.
I run towards him, but I see that I definitely won't make it to 1-4-1, and I don't want to be shot down in his capital – so I turn towards the secondary respawn point, holding the line.
On 1-4-1, I bring only 4 wyverns, 2 basilisks, and 3 gnolls (spent all my money on upgrading Wyverns and Gnolls) and take the secondary dungeon, where I spend the night.
I see Valeska nearby with almost the same army as before he paid the ransom, and next to him is Dragon Utopia!!!
My opponent attacks Dragon Utopia and loses (said there were 3 dragons left).
Score: 1:1 :smile13:
P.S. This time, the respawn area was quite rich - I didn't need any secondary bases at all and still built up all the monsters in the castle + capitol to 1-3-1...in total, I took 3 crypts (all mini), both banks level 3, gnomish stronghold level 20, imp stronghold level 30, and conservatories 1+2+3 ... from external dwellings, I took gnolls in the first week, flies in the second week, and basilisks in the third week; I also saw an external dwelling of gorgons, lizards, and another fly – but I didn't have time for them. I didn't see any trees for ducks, and I only found the first Dragon Utopia right before winning, but they didn't let me take it :)

Interesting game – thank you!
1:1

Pit for LM

17 years ago

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The third game - Pit - in sake of LM DRAW Samurai
Overall score - 1.5:1.5.
We ended in a draw, and we consider this the fairest result in our match.
Thank you very much for the entire series of games. It was very interesting and educational. I gained a huge amount of experience in these three games. But my biggest gain is the pleasant acquaintance not only with my opponent but also with other players on heroes.by. I hope that such matches will become a good tradition for HW and HB.

To Nagan-4: thank you for the congratulations. In football terms, now the Cup holder has to compete with the Champion :smile01:

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LeBron

17 years ago

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LeBron (red, barb, Gurni) def vbn (blue, Castle, Valya) 127, 2sm4d(3)
Took both resps—generated quite well—
113 native secondary
114 cons min
115-117 clearing both resps and home 1-5 in Castle and birds with orcs in secondary—categorically not enough money
only 5 cans generated far out in the fields—planned to take everything by 123-124—and on 124 to take the home Dragon Utopia but with 4 losers by 115 there was absolutely no speed or tempo, so I had to take another secondary and postpone the mentioned Dragon Utopia until 131 but Valya decided she could calmly stroll through my secondaries which is what she paid for
1-0
thanks for the game

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Alex_R

17 years ago

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I confirm my replacement with vbn in the match between ХВ and HP...
Due to personal issues, I discussed this beforehand with Nagan-4 (the captain of team ХВ) and preliminarily with the players of the "new pair"...
But I didn't have time to reach the captain of the opposing team and the referee before the first game was already played... I hope no one objects...

P.S. If needed, I'm ready to sub in for one game for any player from team ХВ.

Nagan-4

17 years ago

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Dear friends, there were issues with ICQ. Support for the ICQ client version 5.1 has been discontinued, so I had to install a new one — 443-670-065, to be honest, it's glitchy.
Anyway, if there are any misunderstandings regarding the match, feel free to write.

Regarding the Bay match. The match score is 1.5 to 6.5. By games — 6.5 to 15.5.
Let me remind you, by mutual agreement of the team representatives, one pair of players was unable to play due to a conflict, so only the results of nine player pairs are taken into account. That being the case, we are waiting for the result of the last game — Alex R vs Napalm — and then we will sum up the results.
According to the agreements reached before the match, other games of our players and Bay players will not be counted in the match results, although they may be taken into account in the seasonal rating, etc.

Post from the Portal by team representative Neoandy.

Sir DeepMike, due to free time issues, asked to be replaced for the remaining games in the tournament with ХВ. He also requested that he be replaced specifically by Sir Gynnar.
Given that, officially, no substitute rosters were announced by the teams, and the main rosters are represented by the strongest players of the resources, there should be no objections regarding substitutions for a player who hasn't played.
Nevertheless, I recommend that Sir Pit for LM verify that there are no objections from his captain to playing with the substitution, as I currently have no ICQ contact with Nagan-4. I am sure he will not object, but formally, it is better to do so."

I object. And here's why. Initially, there was an agreement that the team would consist of players with a clear affiliation to a specific forum, and the forum players themselves voted for their people.
On our World, we had the opportunity to include such strong and respected players as Vigo, LeBron, etc., especially since they themselves wanted to play for World and serious people advocated for them.
But we included exactly those players whose status as World members is unquestionable. The same was done by Portal and Bay. On Portal, a vote was held and players were designated who can substitute for the main players.

http://heroesportal.net/tavern/?id=255574&pagenum=4

1. Hardcore.
2.Vitalic.
3.Deep Mike.
4.Lesgor.
5.Neoandy.
6.Kebazavr.
7.Alone ekb.
8.LeBrone.
9.Chudozavr.
10. Medium vs ZluqaOMG - you need to play a mini duel (qualifying) up to 2 wins.

In reserve, which we are counting on: Navuchodonosor, Dreamcatcher, EVSey, and the loser of entry #10.

Let's honor the agreements.

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vitalic

17 years ago

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Nagan-4

Dear friends, there were problems with ICQ. Support for version 5.1 of the ICQ client has been discontinued, so I had to install a new ICQ – 443-670-065, but to be honest, it's buggy.
Anyway, if you have any questions about the match, feel free to ask.

Regarding the match against Bay. The score is 1.5 to 6.5. By games – 6.5 to 15.5.
As a reminder, by mutual agreement of the team representatives, one pair of players could not play due to a conflict, so only the results of nine pairs of players are taken into account. Therefore, we are waiting for the result of the last game – Alex R and Napalm – and then we will summarize the results.
According to the agreements reached before the match, other games of our players and Bay's players will not be taken into account in the match results, although they may be taken into account in the seasonal ranking, etc.

Post from the Portal by a representative of the Neoandy team.

I disagree. And here's why. Initially, there was an agreement that the team would include players with a clear affiliation to a specific forum, and the forum members themselves would vote for their people.
We had the opportunity to include such strong and respected players as Vigo, Lebron, etc., in the World team, especially since they themselves wanted to play for the World, and serious people advocated for them.
But we included players about whom there is no doubt that they are indeed World players. The same was done by Portal and Bay. Portal held a vote and determined the players who could replace the main players.

http://heroesportal.net/tavern/?id=255574&pagenum=4

Let's stick to the agreements.

Thank you for your response, we will nominate another player.

PS, qipinfium9020 has been released, install it in the same directory, it will pick up your old settings and you won't have to change the number

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Ta Kotoraya...

17 years ago

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vitalic

PS, download qipinfium9020 and install it in the same directory; it will recognize your old settings, and you won't need to change the version number.

There's also a regular new version of QIP available – not Infium (in my opinion, it's overloaded with unnecessary settings). So, you can download the new version of QIP, install it, and you'll have no problems! ;)

P.S. Sorry for the off-topic... I'll delete it myself later.

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Dirty_Player

17 years ago

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The One...

There's already a regular new version of Qwip – not Infium (in my opinion, it's overloaded with unnecessary settings). So you can download the new version of Qwip, install it, and there will be no problems! ;)

P.S. Sorry for the off-topic... I'll delete it myself later.

Could you please provide a link?