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Posts from SoY-4: Online Tournaments "Seasons of year" - "Seasons of the Year" - Autumn Season 2008
We've already played (or tried to play) a game with Kreg three times.
1. The first time, his ICQ crashed.
2. The second time, his boss came, and he had to leave.
3. The third time, he also had to leave, and it was urgent.
I've adjusted to his schedule twice, missing two of my scheduled game days. I won't play with him anymore.
I request that the judge resolve this issue. I will accept any decision. The game is long but interesting, and I thank my opponent for that, but his attitude towards me, not just as a player (even if I'm weak), bothers me.
P.S. The game is at stage 241, and I'm likely in a losing position.
The judge's decision is important to me – I'm curious to see who will be deemed right and who will be deemed wrong.
invisible
Guild 2000 + book purchase 500 = 2500 :)
Thank you, but didn't he already have a Guild? Then it's fine, sorry for the mistake – after all these "events" (see above), my brain isn't working well... :smile04:
Pit - In sake of LM
Pit - In sake of LM (blue, Stronghold, Gretchen, Solmyr) def Kreg Xek (red, Dungeon, Dimer, Dimer), Boomerang, last necessary crystals. The Ranger goes along the southern coast to collect chests. I'm building a Stronghold.
We had disagreements about how this battle was conducted.
Question to the organizer regarding the rules.Rules for online HoMM3 games (rating tournament): 5.6. Hit-and-run is prohibited: The attacking hero is not allowed to retreat in the first round of battle if he has used combat magic or any other magic that has, in any way, inflicted damage on the opponent. This prohibition does not apply to the hero who is defending.Rules we are currently playing by: 8th online Times of the Year - Autumn 2008: 14) It is forbidden to: c) use hit and run (use combat magic against an opponent in battle and retreat/bribe during that turn)
That is, neither side in any round.
The opponent doesn't see the difference between these two formulations.
Just in case, I clarified before the tournament:
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14.c - hit and run is usually only prohibited in the first round - is it now prohibited in any round?
Eugene's answer: yes.
In the battle, Kreg cast Armageddon in the second round and retreated with the Efreet on the first turn – is that hit and run again?:smile54:
in the battle, Kreg cast Armageddon in the second round, and on the first turn, the efreets ran away – hit and run? again?:smile54:
It happened (I still can't get used to it). If the opponent needs a victory so much, well, let them proceed. The game was extremely interesting (I've never had anything like this before), I'll attach the last save so that anyone who wants can take a look (the opponent's position is hopeless – buying a hat at the market +4 to knowledge and the game is won (although even without the hat, there's no chance)). I will accept any decision of the judges, thank you to the opponent for a very interesting game.
P.S. I'll repeat Germes' post #95 (only I'm 23 years old), in life there are things more important than Heroes, and if a person cannot play/finish a game, then this should be treated more calmly. I offered to finish the game at a time convenient for the opponent (at night), but apparently, victory is more important.
It’s not about winning, but about how you treat a person. For example, did you know today that you had to leave by one o'clock? Could you have told me? I just took two days off work for nothing, and now I have to make it up, right in the middle of the night. I really enjoyed the game – it was interesting, and I'm a little disappointed that I messed up when I attacked the first time; I could have decided everything then, because it's not great to play without a main hero. But you still broke the rules. I repeat, it's not about winning; I can let you pass to the next round, because I understand that there's not much point in continuing with what I have left. And I didn't even see any Elven units from you. Just Dwarves and Kentaur. I would have done that if you had warned me in advance about possible departures. But now, it's up to the community to decide. I'm a person, and I want basic respect.
Lose and pay 2500, buy a book for another 2500, buy elves for, say, 2000. Where was he going to get that much money when money is the rarest resource on this map, and elves and dendroids are built in the castle with difficulty?:) And why didn't he just buy a cheap unit in the castle and transfer those same elves, even without a magic book, if he had that much money? In general, there are many questions about your phrase "...and calmly attack and kill the opponent...":cool:
In short, to avoid arguing, I looked at the save. Uran has 1600 money in that turn and a chest worth 1000 available. Some fantasies about ransom, etc.
Uran
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So, Co6oJIb, I think I misunderstood something... are you calculating something, writing all sorts of things – do you want to accuse me of something?)) Well, it's pointless, but I'll explain it to you this time. Regarding the money calculation – I bought a hero (from Dungeon) to bring in the elves, but after the purchase, I had very little money left, and Kiry had enough turns to reach you – there were enough turns, but I was shocked by my financial calculations, and the time ran out((, I should have given the army to the hero from the Dungeon, and Kiry would have attacked, not bought a hero, but used magic and the next day bought the elves and attacked (there would have been slightly fewer elves than you had, but 8 marksmen would have taken them out, and there wouldn't have been a morale penalty from the unnecessary Dungeon unit). Regarding discovering the army in the Dungeon – I always have and still believe that you can use the fixed map editor during the game. I often see the map for the first time on the day of the game, and this time I just glanced at which castle would be better to choose and took the Elves for a rush... and only the loss of the hero on the 3rd day and my subsequent blunder didn't even give me a chance to win...
Pit for LM
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ewgeniy
Since the 5th game until now, 2 games have been played - Javdet (blue, Dungeon, Gunnar, Gunnar) def Felix (red, Citadel, Dessa, Dessa) Desert War, 145 and my game with Pit (he couldn't show up at the scheduled time and is quite satisfied with the tech:)
A technical win doesn't make me happy at all; I wanted to play, not just advance to the next round. Especially since you showed up at the scheduled time and warned me that you wouldn't be able to play; I didn't waste a minute waiting, we could have agreed on another day. Co6oJIb
By the way, please tell us the secret of how you saw during the game that there was a hero with a good army in the dungeon?:D
Even without playing, any participant in the tournament can accurately say which hero and with which army Uran was freeing from the dungeon. So there's no secret here. Many people here look at the maps not only during the game but also before the game, and some even try to think of a plan of action in advance. SpiriTT
We already played (tried to play) our game with Kreg 3 times. 1 time, his ICQ crashed. 2 times, his boss came, and he had to leave. 3 times, he also had to leave, and urgently. I adjusted to him twice already and missed 2 turns accordingly. I won't play with him anymore. I ask the judge to resolve this issue. I will accept absolutely any decision; the game is long but interesting, so thank you to my opponent, but his attitude towards me, not only as a player (even if a weak one), offends me.
Kreg Xek
There are things in life that are more important than Heroes, and if a person cannot play/finish a game, then this should be treated more calmly. I offered to finish the game at a time convenient for my opponent (at night), but apparently, winning is more important.
Kreg Xek doesn't understand what they are trying to explain to him for the second time. Everyone understands that circumstances can be different, and they go to meet each other. Usually, this movement happens from both sides. But you demand understanding from others, but on your part, you simply ignore the fact that other people also have things that are more important than just sitting in front of a computer and waiting for you for hours. Is it difficult to let someone know so that they don't sit and wait for you? SpiriTT
In the battle, Kreg cast Armageddon in the second round, and on the first turn, the efreets ran away - hit and run? again?:smile54:
I continued to play because my opponent didn't agree that the rules had been violated. Postponing the game and contacting Evgeny for clarification would mean that, in the event of Kreg Xek being right, I would have to find him again and wait. But I still wanted to play... WHY DO RULES EXIST IF THEY CAN BE IGNORED?
ewgeniy
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Dear players! I regret that the rules of the SoY differ from the seasonal ones, but SoY is not played randomly, and it is worth reading the rules before the game... I myself violated them - for example, in a game with Sobol, who pointed this out and nobly offered to continue playing (it was an attack on turn 121) - I can't remember everything. I looked at the save, undoubtedly, the Fortress has a significant advantage, but with the right strategy, the Necropolis can also defend itself (in my opinion). The decision regarding the game is simple:
20)A technical defeat will be awarded for violating the rules in the game, and disqualification for cheating (which is prohibited) - permanently.
You can replay the game by mutual agreement, but I understand that you don't have time or desire for it. All those who have not finished the game are asked to hurry up.
Dear players! I regret that the rules of the SoY differ from the seasonal ones, but SoY is not played randomly, and it is worth reading the rules before the game... I myself violated them - for example, in a game with Sobol, who pointed this out and nobly offered to continue playing (this was an attack on 121) - I can't remember everything. I looked at the save, undoubtedly, the Fortress has a significant advantage, but with the right strategy, the Necropolis can also defend itself (in my opinion).
With mutual consent, you can finish the game, but I understand that you don't have time for it, nor the desire. I ask everyone who hasn't finished the game to hurry up.
It is impossible to break the rules, I completely agree with this, I admit my defeat. This is my first participation in a tournament - I promise to improve and win the tournament next time :smile49:.
to Javdet - the map is only Stronghold, I am Fortress, SpiriTT is Necropolis. Secondaries - both Inferno.
SpiriTT
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Thank you for your promptness. Kreg, no offense, but you brought it on yourself.
Thank you, Pete, for your support!
Sincerely, SpiriTT.
Even without playing, any tournament participant can accurately say which hero and with which army Uran was freeing from prison. So, there's no secret here. Many people watch the maps not only during the game but also before the game, and some even try to think of a plan of action in advance.
Pit, you shouldn't "explain" everything to everyone without understanding the essence of the question. The point is that Uran wrote that he saw the hero was good later, i.e., obviously, right during the game. And the fact that fixers watch all the maps before the start of the match seems obvious.
Question from Ewgeniy: Is it really possible to view the map being played in the editor directly during the game?
Pit for LM
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Sorry, SoboJI, I really didn't understand your question. The accusation against Uran was unfair. It seemed obvious. I understand that you can't read the entire forum. In May, it was: ewgeniy
There's an opinion that fixes are a new thing. This is not true; most tournaments are held on fixed maps to level the playing field and give opponents an equal chance of winning. Furthermore, it eliminates the possibility of cheating by one of the opponents viewing the map – both can view the map as much as they want and whenever they want (for example, during the game). Besides, fixes differ from random maps in terms of balance.
Pit - For the sake of LM Pit, thank you for the information, it will make the game much more convenient to play.
ewgeniy
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So, let's continue:) Semifinals:
Group 1
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Javdet
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SpiriTT
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Group 2
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Co6oJIb
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Pit - In sake of LM
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and the battle for 5th, 6th, and 7th places:
Group 3
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Kreg Xek
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2
ewgeniy
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Group 4
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Феликс
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2
uran
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officially starting tomorrow - 21.11.2008, good luck to everyone;)
Question from Ewgeniy: is it really possible to view the game map in the editor directly during the game?
yes, that's the highlight of the fixes. if you can memorize and learn them anyway, then why not look at the map during the game? this will level the playing field for those who are playing it for the first time with those who have played it 5 or more times:)
