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Germes;201370
Sable, why are you so nervous? I told you I was on a business trip, I just arrived, but I have to leave again, so ewgeniy, please give me a technical defeat because I physically won't be able to play. I apologize to those I was supposed to play against. Life happens...

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I thought about it and I'll say it anyway... Sable, I'm 22 years old, and this game isn't the most important thing in my life; I have work and family, for example. You shouldn't get so worked up if your opponent doesn't show up at the scheduled time; there are rules, and I think they will resolve everything. I am guilty and I don't deny my guilt. But I think you could also get your face broken for such a fiery temper.

To everyone, I think everyone will agree. There's no need to hide behind business trips, family, or being busy, etc., after the fact – just write immediately when you realize you won't be able to play! Even though joining the tournament without properly planning your time is already irresponsible, it's still better to warn people than to do what Hermes did: lie persistently in ICQ and waste other people's time.
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Let's stop the insults - further discussion on this topic will be considered spam and will be mercilessly deleted.
You are both right in your own way: of course, there is no need to get nervous, but disrupting the game is not good either - people spend their time - if you can't make it, let them know somehow, or apologize, and that's it:)

If anyone else from my group is still around, for example, Vasileus, write here when you can play - I've been short on time lately, so clan wars are not working out - either the opponent is delayed or I am:(
В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

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Attempt No. 2. We agreed with Kreg Xek to play tomorrow, October 21st, from 9 AM to 1 PM (Moscow time). Map 6 (Boomerang). I will be playing as the Barbarians. emty1 is not appearing on ICQ and is not responding to messages there. I sent a private message on the forum – no response. The email address listed on ICQ is returning emails.
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Pit - In sake of LM;201454
Attempt No. 2. Agreed with Kreg Xek to play tomorrow, October 21st, from 9 AM to 1 PM (Moscow time). Map 6 (Boomerang). I will be playing as the Barbarians.

emty1 is not appearing on ICQ and is not responding to messages there. I sent a private message on the forum - no response. The email address listed on ICQ returns emails.

That's right. Castle - Dungeon.
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2 Spiritt: Please finish our game as soon as possible... I agree to play even at night, as I might be leaving by the end of the week. 2Crow: Please let me know somehow:smile12:
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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I will try... my schedule is too tight... I will check in the evenings.
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
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Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
Платон.
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Please record that victory.
Uran def. StickyFingaz
The opponent didn't have time and agreed with the technical defeat...
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Please remove me from the tournament. I apologize to the organizer and the participants.
Я ламер и играть не умею, нах!:smile33:
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Pit - For the sake of LM (blue, Stronghold, Gretchen, Solmir) def Kreg Xek (red, Dungeon, Dimer, Dimer), Boomerang, 146.
111 - Gretchen leaves 2 stacks of goblins in the castle and takes a couple of chests and the stone mine. Kilgor is purchased, takes troops and retakes a chest and the mercury mine.
112 - Gretchen gets logistics from the stone of experience and runs along the outer side of the boomerang, collecting chests. Jager takes the army, and Kilgor gets into the boat (no need to take the lumber mill - 10 logs were given at the start).
113 - the first drowned one gives the shield of the damned, a chest and a pile of crystals are retaken from the bandits, another pile lies by the shipyard. I build rocs and buy Solmir, who takes the sawmill.
114 - the army is given to Kilgor at sea, he finds the amulet of speed and prepares to destroy the ghosts. Gretchen finds the last necessary crystals in the bonfire. Jager heads along the southern coast to collect chests. I build the citadel.
115 - two ships give 6000 gold, I build behemoths, I give a behemoth to Solmir.
116 - Solmir takes the crystal mine, I build orcs.
117 - Kilgor returns, Solmir takes the army and retakes a chest and gloves from the vampires. Gretchen invades foreign lands. I build the castle.
121 - I thought for a long time about who to make the main hero - Kilgor or Solmir, and in the end made the right choice, settling on the mage. I bring 2 behemoths and 6 birds, take the medusa warehouse (4 each) and the crypt with 5 vampires.
122 - I visit the arena.
123 - dwarf warehouse (20 each).
124 - tree of knowledge and +1 spell power.
125 - with Kilgor I retake the cloak +2/+2, replenish mana.
126 - I take the central city - Inferno.
127 - I speed up in the stable.
131 - I bring the growth and run to Dimer, whose army consists of only a dozen evil eyes; on the way, I take the naga bank (3 each).
132 - I attack Dimer.
I have 15 birds and haste, Dimer has about the same number of eyes, troops split into 7 stacks. After my attack, 2 eyes remain (attack is a bit weak, and morale and luck didn't trigger in time), I am hit by lightning, 5 of my birds die, Dimer retreats.

Disagreements arose between us regarding the conduct of this battle.

Question to the organizer regarding the rules.

HoMM3 online game rules (rating tournament): 5.6. Hit-and-run is prohibited: The attacking hero has no right to retreat in the first round of battle if they used combat magic or any other spell that caused any damage to the opponent. This prohibition does not apply to the defending hero.

Rules we are currently playing by: 8th online Seasons - Autumn 2008: 14) prohibited: c) using hit and run (using combat magic against an opponent in battle and fleeing/paying off during that turn)
Meaning neither side in any round.

The opponent sees no difference between these two formulations.

Just in case, I clarified before the tournament:
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14.c - hit and run is usually prohibited only in the first round - now in any?
Evgeniy's answer: yes.

My opponent believes that he did not break the rules because he was the defending party and, from his point of view, it didn't matter fundamentally, "the birds would have died anyway." However, in the future, I would like no more disagreements to arise on these points. Zhenya, please answer once more regarding this rule: can the defending side use hit-and-run?

133 - 134 - I take all troops and move towards the opponent's capital.

Next, I rushed twice - I was in a hurry for work - and almost paid for it.
First time, when instead of taking the opponent's castle on 135, looking around and thinking, I attacked his main hero. Second time - in battle, I rushed and allowed the opponent to cast Armageddon.
Solmir (3, 6, 10, 9 (96)), expert wisdom, intelligence, air magic, basic luck, +1 speed, morale 3, luck 2, 10 rocs, 5 behemoths, 80 goblins, 30 orc chieftains, 10 wolves against Dimer (1, 4, 13, 9 (262)), expert wisdom, scouting, advanced archery, intelligence and earth magic, 7 minotaurs, 10 eyes, 14 medusa queens and single harpies.
In the first round, I kill a dozen medusas with lightning and move everyone forward. Opponent uses anti-magic on the minotaurs. Second round - haste and I block the way to the minotaurs with rocs (!?). After Armageddon and the minotaurs' hit, the last behemoth has just over 20 health units left... I pay off and consider further prospects.
Dimer charges with harpies.
In the second week in Inferno, I automatically built demons, GM was there from the start, so for the remaining 2 days, efreets and the castle are built. When they saw my efreets, they offered a draw :D .
On 141 from the stable, I rush to attack with 6 efreets and 6 birds. Gloves + stable + fast troops allowed me to overtake Dimer on the way to his capital - apparently, there was no money for the chain.
On 144 on the last cell, I enter the castle and get Armageddon for the efreets. Dimer turns around and heads to Inferno. I run after him, taking half the efreets, and leaving 3 in the castle (the birds died from the Inferno spell during the assault).
On 146, just in case, I clash with the opponent's scout and buy back in the central castle. There was no need for this, as the opponent could not reach my castle, while I could reach his on 147.

Dungeon surrenders.


P.S. Yesterday we still couldn't play - out of the time announced and confirmed by the opponent (from 9 to 13), he could give me 20 min. In total, I spent more than 13 hours on the game (two working days), of which about 3.5 hours on actual gameplay, the rest - waiting for the opponent. It's time for me to change my attitude towards techs.
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Javdet (blue, Necropolis, Galtran, Galtran) def Spiritt (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti), Boomerang, 217.

On day 145, mistakes from either side could have been decisive — Gosha exposes himself with an incomplete army before an unknown threat and gets punished by the swift Shakti. I retreat with losses, having about 15k. At the same time, the opponent, having taken my central town (also Necropolis), leaves a scout hero in it, and my scout hero with the Arrow artifact returns it. Gosha, after buying himself out, drives away Shakti who was boosted on Scorpicores. I can't reach the rest of his army with my scout hero, and he runs home. The rest was already a matter of execution: Gosha and Islyne with Intelligence and Earth Magic, a Fountain of Fortune nearby, I get Town Portal in the Mage Guild, Summon Elemental in another Mage Guild, Animate Dead, Meteor Shower, and Chain Lightning; among the artifacts — a Green Orb, Necromancer's Cloak, Torso of Legion, and others for stats... + the native town with Vampires... The finale with Gosha's advantage in army and magic (Shakti never got Wisdom).
Thanks for the game.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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Pit - In sake of LM;202054
Pit - In sake of LM (blue, Stronghold, Gretchen, Solmyr) def Kreg Xek (red, Dungeon, Dimer, Dimer), Boomerang, 146.

That's what happened, sorry for the hit and run, it just happened automatically.
The Tent saved the opponent from complete destruction, and Inferno determined the winner.
P.S. I could have said that instead of rain, Dima got a lightning strike!
+ I lost because of those damn earth elementals, which are immune to lightning.

Regarding tech issues - things happen in life, and not everyone can play when it's convenient for the opponent, this should be taken into account, and not scream on the entire forum that you wasted so much time.
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Javdet;202111
Javdet (blue, Necropolis, Galtran, Galtran) def Spiritt (red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti), Boomerang, 217.

At 145 mistakes on each side could have been decisive.
Yeah... I think if I hadn't blundered and had left Shakti to power up in the castle, I would have won. My ball was there, and money, and the cyclopes nearby — the dragons are coming up. And Gosh wouldn't have maxed out his scholarship and wouldn't have gotten either meteor or resurrection... Plus he had 100+ skeletons, took all the liches. I myself only lost a few minotaurs. Shakti together with 300+ Troglodytes and the crew would have shown Gosh where skeletons spend the night... But "if ifs and buts were candy and nuts," u_vbn would delete from the post and punish me for it)))
I was waiting so much for Wisdom...:( There was a resurrect at home... in the final I was only hoping for the catapult. Had Expert in it — wanted to destroy the tower with the first shot and calmly shoot the skeletons, zombies, and others from afar. But the terrible catapult:smile14: instead of the central tower, it smashed 2 walls to splinters at once — and the plan instantly collapsed...
In short, thanks for the game, experience, and understanding — well, I have a tough schedule... nothing can be done about it. That's why I don't agree on a specific time — I'm not sure I'll be on time. But if I promise, I show up. There are witnesses. So everyone has no time, but if you don't have it and there's no compromise to play at night — why sign up? A question...
P.S By the way, I received a message from crow — she asks for forgiveness and admits her defeat. So Javdet — one game and first place in the group — congratulations))):smile44:
P.S.S No matter how funny this all sounds — our group played its games on time))) Fill out the table)) waiting for the next ones)
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
без авто:smile20:
Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
Платон.
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SpiriTT;202200

Well, thanks for the game, the experience, and your understanding – I just have a tough schedule... there's nothing I can do about it. That's why I don't agree on a specific time – I'm not sure if I'll be on time. But if I promise, I'll be there. There are witnesses. So, everyone is short on time, but if you don't have time and there's no compromise to play at night, why sign up? That's the question...

It's unclear from the text who this is addressed to... If it's to me, then there shouldn't be any complaints. Both times we played at night, at a time that was convenient for you – isn't that a compromise? I was just asking to play faster because I might be leaving for a week or two, so I could finish before the deadline. And I respect your punctuality.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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No, no!!! Sorry if I offended you! That was a jab at the author of the previous post – Craig. I probably worded it incorrectly. Thank you for understanding...
With great respect, SpiriTT.
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
без авто:smile20:
Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
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I apologize for my long absence – I’ve had internet problems, but I promise to be back and resolve everything by Friday.
Can the defending side use hit-and-run?
The rules are final – I (and I wrote them) understand hit-and-run in this way: The opponent, at the beginning of any round, uses a combat skill and then flees or bribes. These are not rating rules, although these rules are based on them and not only on them. The answer to the question: hit-and-run cannot be used by either side in any round. If hit-and-run is a term that refers only to the first round, I’m not sure – then the rules should be understood as follows:
(using combat magic against an opponent in battle and fleeing or bribing during that turn)
After all, I explained everything clearly.
В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.

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