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Should I leave the Diamond template for Round 6, or not?
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Single choice Public votes Closed 2008-10-30
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Leave
38.5% 10 votes
Play using the Shield template
50% 13 votes
Another template
11.5% 3 votes
Offline denden
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#124
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We were talking about zones 16, 17, and 18. It seems that each of them leads to 3 zones: to the treasury, to the opponent, and to the village (zone number 3). And not as shown on the map. Zones 4 and 17 are already connected on my map with a defense strength of 11. Mines are usually captured at the beginning of the 2nd week, often earlier. In my opinion, on Veteran difficulty, it doesn't slow down the game too much, but it was intended to slow it down a bit.
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#125
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From the small zones, there are four exits.
Well, I mean one entrance and three exits. And yes, the zones are small, with trees and ore around a large treasure, and according to the map, there are two exits. We haven't reached them yet, but someone played and there were three, was it some kind of creature?
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Mines are best cleared by the beginning of the 2nd week, often earlier. In my opinion, it doesn't slow you down much on Veteran, but it was intended to slow you down a bit.
Well, how can it not slow you down? In a week, you would get 14 wood and ore, plus, and there's never enough of them. And if some blue elves stand in the portal, on the 1st week, you won't be able to break through them on Veteran without significant losses, right? And there's a 50% chance that you'll end up in rare mines...
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Offline Leolopus
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To be honest, I don't quite understand the reason for the heated discussion. Both opponents are in the same conditions; practically everyone knows that there is no lumber mill or coal mine in the starting zone, so they should take this fact into account from the very beginning. I have played this map template many times, and I have also played it in tournaments with human players, but I have never had any problems with coal, nor have I had any problems with wood when playing as an Elf. Finding a lumber mill and a coal mine, or even more than one, is not particularly difficult if you set that as your initial goal.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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Offline Lady Revan
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Leo, for example, I didn't know that there were no mines in the starting zone. That's just stupid. There aren't enough resources as it is, and now you have to spend ages looking for a mine. And you also have to guess where exactly they are. I went into an adjacent zone with my main hero and found all the other mines there, except for the ore and wood mines I needed. And since I was playing as the Elves, it's not surprising that I lost, because I spent 3 weeks looking for mines and couldn't find them. So I gave up, because I hadn't built anything in the city.
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Offline Lady Revan
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#128
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The problem might be that, with this map (“Shield”), you have to guess which of the two adjacent zones contains the mine/lumber mill and which contains the rare resources. The most reliable approach is to create passages to both zones at once.
But I didn’t guess, which is why I lost in a particularly embarrassing way, unlike usual.
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Offline Leolopus
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#129
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A huge thank you to denden for explaining the Shield template :smile20: There are 4 exits from the starting area. The first is to the main area, the second leads to an area with three teleporters, the third is to mines with wood and ore, and the fourth is a resource area. The first two are guarded by a decent army, either a mixed army or creatures of level 7. The other two are weaker, but there might be a trick in the form of many ghosts, followed by a squad of many archmages. You'll have to guess where each of the two portals leads. But, in my opinion, I think this is interesting and adds a unique element to the game!
If I'm not mistaken, this post is on page 7 of this thread, and I don't think there's any point in commenting further, but I'll repeat that both players are initially in the same conditions, so I wouldn't blame the Shield template, especially since it was chosen by the majority in an open vote;)

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Darth Erin;200827
I think that "Diamond" should be removed; I don't like it when opponents arrive too quickly. You can either play the Shield template or repeat. I, for example, really like the "Labyrinth" and "Smile" templates.
Erin, I sincerely regret that your game didn't go well with this template; don't be upset, all your victories are still ahead:smile49:
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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Offline immortal
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The diagram doesn't clearly illustrate the template; it needs to show that zones 16, 17, and 18 are also connected to zones 6, 4, and 5, respectively. For example, when I played it for the first time, I didn't immediately notice this, and I only figured it out by looking at the map.
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That’s actually what confused me. While playing, I didn’t expect that I could access these zones so early.
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Offline Primus
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Round 7: Spider Template

Players listed first in the pair play with the red color.

1. A1coho1!c - Atris (1-0)
2. MaddenMax - A.Matrix - no information available
3. antonag07 - legacy.0.1 (1-0)
4. Vip.rus - Eruina (1-0)
5. immortal - NEREWAR (1-0)
6. raykkonen - Igrok_v_geroev (1-0)
7. alex_nv - KillAndAction - game started, but not finished
8. dwp1970 - Vasja (0-1)
9. Will - Igor_HW - will try to play today
10. Lok1978 - denden (0-1)
11. Vector1 - Leolopus - Vector1 did not connect or respond to any messages during the week
12. HeatEx - Xodyn (1-0)
13. Smerti_Po - Cosmoplast (1-0)
14. Kolobokk - twaryna
Да будет свет во всём мире !!!
клан-"Homo homini"
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Offline Leolopus
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I would like to inform the tournament organizer, Mr. Primus, that my opponent in round 7, Vector, did not contact me within the specified timeframe and did not respond to any of my game scheduling requests sent via ICQ. I am still not authorized in her ICQ account, which leads me to believe that she has been completely offline for the past week:smile32:.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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Offline Vector1
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I apologize for my absence in this thread. And there was no one to ask for help. :)
I'm ready to play at a time that is convenient for you – we can start today.
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Offline Leolopus
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I apologize for my absence in this thread. And there was no one to ask for help. :) I'm ready to play at a time that's convenient for you – we can start today.
There's a saying, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse." In the future, if you register for a tournament, please take the time to read the rules and ask Kolobok to explain the ways to communicate with other participants. These options are very simple: there's a list of participants with their ICQ numbers, and there's a thread where the pairings for each round are announced, determining your individual and very specific opponent, with whom you can easily communicate, discuss, and agree on a time for the game! I'm writing all this here because I have no idea how to communicate with you. After a week, you appeared on ICQ, and in response to my specific messages, you asked me the Albanian question, "Who are you?" and disappeared again. What's the point of your post? How will we arrange things? How can we communicate online at all?
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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Offline Primus
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Round 8: M3 / M3 Template

Players listed first in each pair play with the red color.

1. Eruina - Atris
2. legacy.0.1 - MaddenMax
3. Igor_HW - A1coho1!c
4. KillAndAction - dwp1970
5. NEREWAR - alex_nv
6. Igrok_v_geroev - Vip.rus
7. A.Matrix - antonag07
8. denden - Vector1
9. Leolopus - immortal
10. Vasja - Cosmoplast
11. Xodyn - Smerti_Po
12. twaryna - HeatEx
13. raykkonen - Lok1978
14. Will - Kolobokk
Да будет свет во всём мире !!!
клан-"Homo homini"
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Offline Vector1
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Well, first I was checking ICQ, then the forum. Now I'm on ICQ until late in the evening. Every evening now.

Please don't judge me too harshly – I'm waiting for us to agree on something.
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Offline KillAndAction
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:eek:

I have the following to report: I agreed with Alex_NV to play on November 24, 2008, BUT:

my hard drive crashed again, I apologize for the inconvenience and ask for a delay of a few days to finish the game. We basically have the final match left, I think...

I also apologize to the opponent in the 8th round...

I will try to resolve the problems and finish playing with both respected players this week...
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