HMMV Tournament: "Greedy" — Tournament history (offline)

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#1 10/27/2008 1:48 PM UTC

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Heroes V off-line Tournament "Greedy"
Game Objective
Capture all mines on the map as quickly as possible; the result will be evaluated based on the number of days (i.e., in your final save, all mines on the map must be captured). If several players have the same number of days, the best one will be determined by the sum of primary skills (attack, defense, magic, knowledge) INCLUDING WORN ARTIFACTS; if a favorite still cannot be determined, then it will be based on the amount of mercury. ATTENTION! Victory conditions on the map are not disabled! Be careful when capturing an enemy castle!
Description
Starting faction	Fortress
Starting hero	Khar-Uul
Map	Dominating Side (author ogo-i)
Restrictions
Heroes	Necromancer, Hafez, Nurah, Tilshek, Deleb, Vittorio
Spells	Astral Gate
Tournament Dates
The tournament starts on October 27; save submissions will end on November 10 at 12:00 Moscow time <<meaning lunchtime, not midnight>> (These short deadlines are due to the small size of the map and its ease of completion).
Address for sending saves
Send your save to Lord_Vampire15@mail.ru (If you do not receive a confirmation email within 24 hours, it means that the save was not received).
Notes
When submitting an application to participate, please indicate which clan you belong to (or state that you are free); otherwise, you will not be added to the list. The save of a participant who is not listed will not be considered!!! All participants are added to the list in the order of submission (without reserving lucky numbers). Also, before starting the game, please familiarize yourself with the rules for Heroes V off-line.
Archive with save and map
List of Participants
Participant Number	Participant Nickname	Clan the Participant Belongs To
1	Lord Vampire	Vampires
2	WisTrit	Witches
3	K.O.T.9I.R.A.	Free
4	Ascendand Evincar	Mortal Alliance
5	idkfa	Free
6	Leolopus	Knights of Apocalypse
7	LordViRus	Vampires
8	VaRvArHawk	Vampires
9	Oblion	Vampires
10	vesta	Vampires
11	Gаstell0	Vampires
12	Dracon Малласа	Soulkeepers
13	T@mar@	Witches
14	wolf64	Witches
15	Тиеру	Alliance of Light
16	KonServator	Witches
17	Атлант	Free
18	Altair_13 Lex	Gods
19	NEREWAR	Gods
20	Psixxx	Gods
21	Kamikaze	E pluribus unum
22	-	-
23	-	-
24	-	-
25	-	-
26	-	-
27	-	-
28	-	-
29	-	-
30	-	-
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Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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#61 11/10/2008 9:11 AM UTC

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A rhetorical question – did we not extend the deadline for the tournament? Is it still too early to start discussing it?

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#62 11/10/2008 9:50 AM UTC

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So, "undead," let's hear what everyone has.

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#63 11/10/2008 9:54 AM UTC

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Dragon, if you were an hour late, the Inquisition wouldn't have burned you at the stake:). In such cases, you should write to me on ICQ and ask. Regarding the discussion: you can talk about it or not, it's up to you:). The results will probably be available in the evening. If you want to keep it a secret, then stay silent))).

Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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#64 11/10/2008 10:03 AM UTC

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in such cases, you should write to me on ICQ and ask

Oh well... the rules are for everyone, if you didn't make it, you didn't make it, you shouldn't have eaten so many peasants... :smile43:
But I'm so disappointed... I can't find another word. Well, that's it! It's so simple! Just one move was not enough to shorten the result by a day... that save I sent earlier is a walkthrough.
But I won't say how long it took me;) but the result is quite weak... I couldn't get close to completing this map...

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

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#65 11/10/2008 10:16 AM UTC

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I want to say that Vampire's joke about the map being small... so it's easy to complete was a success. The map is VERY difficult; the task cannot be solved straightforwardly. One could have chosen one hero, and it's unclear whether a mage (due to the summoning tome near the red tent) or a warrior with a ballista would be better, or perhaps there was a third option – two heroes. In short, 2 weeks turned out to be too little for such a map (at least for me... lack of time). I only managed to test one option – with a warrior hero. And, like WisTrit, I was 1-2 steps short of completing it in one day less. The only thing I did right was to eliminate the golems standing near the sphinx on the second day (using Carli, a level 4 hero) – that was the most fun battle of the tournament. But after that, I probably made a mistake... I went through the blue tent. The result is disappointing – 11 days, although the stats are high.

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#66 11/10/2008 6:50 PM UTC

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wolf64;205714

4. The map is VERY difficult; the task cannot be solved head-on.
3. I only had time to test one option – with a Warrior as the main hero.
2. The only thing I did right was to eliminate the golems guarding the sphinx on the second day (Karli, level 4) – it was the most fun battle of the tournament.
1. The result is disappointing – 11 days, although the stats are high.

I'll start from the end :)
1. Yes, the result is very disappointing :) it made me cry throughout the entire campaign, I detached everyone... (Well, the Sphere demands it :) ) I have a 10-day completion option, but unfortunately, it remains only in theory ;) I didn't have time, that's for sure :) Not only personal circumstances, but I also spent the last 3 days at work... Where? In the worst possible places :) in the taiga near Langepas :) Now we know the price of wolf tears :) My result is even more disappointing – I don't know which option the esteemed Lord Vampire will accept; I managed to send a save from the deep swamp with a completion time of 12 days...
2. We're waiting for the replay... Moreover, I defeated the sphinx on the 2nd day, I think, with Axel's companion, Inga – but it wasn't very interesting – 1 fairy and chess ;)
3. The Warrior main hero definitely rules – because a mage is useless without a Conflux (I checked it both ways).
4. Yes, Vampire's joke about the map's simplicity was a success :)

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#67 11/11/2008 6:12 AM UTC

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Of course, there's no point in dwelling on what could have been after the battle... I watched it again in the evening and realized that if I had the main hero follow a different path, starting from the end of the 3rd day, I could have saved about a day... So, 10 days would have been enough... Well, that's just a hypothetical scenario (and, in fact, 2 weeks is not enough for such a map, and other players on ICQ agree with me)... But it's all up to the organizer – they came up with the time limit. Two people have already asked me to show a replay of a battle between a warrior hero and troops against golems. Here's the replay:

. Dwarves level 4, 50 javelin throwers, and 6 squads of 1 mountain guard each (unupgraded ballista and cart) – against 88 obsidian golems and 42 halberdiers – losses: 6 mountain guards. I understand that if you take an elf hero with one pixie and run around the battle map, you can struggle and win... and that's also a result. But... I wanted to try winning with a warrior (I'm a bit weird:D).

Gаstell0;205775

The result is very disappointing :) It made me cry throughout the campaign, I detached everyone...

The disappointing result refers to myself, as I felt that I didn't play optimally and could have done better...

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#69 11/11/2008 6:29 AM UTC

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I disagree with the two-week timeframe, as I believe waiting for the tournament to end in the case of a month-long duration would be a greater inconvenience. I have a modest 11 days, as strange as it may seem. But I am satisfied with the result and the gameplay. I tried to show everything I can do. I understand that my level of play in the fifth installment leaves something to be desired, but nevertheless, each new tournament is another lesson, another chest of experience (+1725 experience points). Thank you to the organizer for this chest.

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#70 11/11/2008 7:39 AM UTC

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wolf64;205813

Two people have already asked me to show a replay of a battle between a hero-warrior and troops - against golems.

Good battle, it's educational :)
It's a pity that the AI in the game is so dumb that it allows a single Fairy to break through, or, as the esteemed wof64 did, to defeat large groups of neutral creatures.

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#71 11/11/2008 7:44 AM UTC

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I apologize for the delay in posting the results. There were reasons for it. I'll try to do it tonight, around 7 PM. Regarding the difficulty of the tournament: it's easy because the map is small, there are few opponents on the map, and you can replay and improve it many times. All previous tournaments were more large-scale. It wasn't always desirable to replay them. But still, there are no truly easy tournaments; however, I think the next one will be like that, as it's more about gaining experience and isn't particularly difficult.

Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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#72 11/11/2008 8:29 AM UTC

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The battle is beautiful, but not the most difficult in the game! As I understand it, you reached the computer opponent in the first week, and I would like to see how you defended against its gem mine, and of course, the battle with the Thanatos.

Вступай вКлан "Вампиры" и пополни его ряды !
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Если ты спориш с идиотом проверь не делает ли он то же самого
Пунктация и орфография авторские, критике не подлежат.

Мы не жалели времени и силы,
Земля дрожала под ногами тьмы,
И род людской, беспомощный и хилый,
Рабами стал закрывшейся тюрьмы.

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#73 11/11/2008 8:54 AM UTC

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LordViRuS;205834

The battle was beautiful, but not the most challenging in the game! As I understand it, you started playing against the computer a week ago, and I would like to see how you defended its gem mine, and of course, the battle with the Thanatos.

Could you please tell me (since I'm at work and don't have a computer with the game handy), what mine it is, and even better, who guards it. But I'll say in advance, my hero emerged from the Dungeon on the 8th day, and at that time, he was around level 18-19, and there were no difficult battles on the enemy's territory; almost everything was done on autopilot.... (I had one battle - in the corner of the map near the Sphinx, for a sulfur mine with shamans, a level 1 hero, throwers, bears, and mountain guardians, all non-upgraded. - but even then, it wasn't a problem.... but it didn't make it into my final Walkthrough). And my hero, a Dwarf, reached level 21 by the end.... so there were no problems with clearing the area.
But the battle with the Fire Elementals in the Dungeon -

, here, the losses of the defenders are no longer important...;)

p.s. why are those who completed the game in 10 days, or even faster, silent?.... my result might not even be among the top three.....
p.s.2 - and I didn't even touch the Erls near the red tent in my final Walkthrough... I didn't want to deviate from the route

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#74 11/11/2008 9:08 AM UTC

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There were druids. And tell me about your hero build and the route you took, especially regarding the fire elementals in the dungeon near the computer.

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#75 11/11/2008 9:18 AM UTC

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LordViRuS;205843

There were druids there. And tell me about your hero build and the route you took, besides the fire elementals on the base near the computer in the dungeon (I didn't even go down there).

If you're talking about your territory, here's the battle with the elder druids

, I don't even remember how many losses I had... probably around 3 fortress defenders....
And the route is simple... in 6 days I killed everyone on my territory who was guarding the mines (and the abandoned one too) and dove into the dungeon, straight through the adepts, high druids, warlords, and rakshasa + the mages' treasure room - and on the 8th day I came out on top.... my helpers from below - through the blue guardian - also went to the enemy....
and I leveled up my hero with logistics (path of war), attack, mechanics, and education

P.S. I get a lot of questions, but it would be nice if you also shared your results... so far, only Divine Wind and Gastello have talked about their results.

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#76 11/11/2008 10:20 AM UTC

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We're talking about 32 Druids on Barbarian territory. I have Direal as my main hero, but I don't think the losses should exceed 3-5 units. If it's a Warrior, use a Ballista; otherwise, use a Phoenix.

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