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Posts from Which athlete do you consider to be the best in the world?
2Catch You just stated that he had the best car for 5 years in a row, but when analyzed, it turned out to be only 2 out of 5. Of course, the concept of "car" should include not only speed, but also reliability, tires, mechanics, etc., but
Yes, in 2000, McLaren was at least as good as Ferrari, they only lost the title due to their own stupidity.
I don't think it's about stupidity, but rather that Michael was simply faster than Mika. With almost everything else being equal, that's what decided it.
McLaren was fast, but unreliable, that's why Coulthard only competed with Schumacher until Monaco, when his car stalled on the starting lap of the warm-up, and instead of pole position, he started from the last place, and Mika also stalled on the last lap in his favorite Spain and instead of winning, he got 9th place.
Yes, he stalled, but he was leading with a solid lead on the most representative track of the championship, so Ferrari was better, but not critically. In a similar situation, but with the opposite polarity in 2000, Schumacher managed to pull through and became champion, and I won't even mention 1994.
In 2003, many teams were good, McLaren, Williams, and even Renault showed good races at times, but overall, Ferrari was still slightly better, and that slight advantage was enough for Schumacher to beat Raikkonen.
Remember better. The speed was more or less okay, but there were some problems every race, if not more often. But Williams had a period when they should have had 3-4 races in a row, but they didn't because of infighting and their own mistakes. And Schumacher took advantage of that, unlike Kimi, although there are no particular complaints about him, they had incomparably different experience. And despite all this, Schumacher would have been left without a title due to Michelin's strong advantage if nature itself hadn't taken pity and it hadn't rained in Indianapolis (he was performing poorly on that track, and in the end he won). And the Bridgestone rain tires were better, and most importantly, not worse, because with everything else being equal in the rain, Schumacher was pulling away from everyone as if they were standing still (remember Silverstone 1998), that's just his driving style and the design of the car. After all, let's not forget that another "rain man," Senna, also liked Berna's cars.
But despite all this, I don't consider him the GREATEST athlete in the world. Even in Formula 1, there are those who are not inferior to him, and if they are inferior, it is insignificantly. Fangio, Stewart, Lauda, Prost, Senna...
It's impossible to compare Fangio and Schumacher - they are from completely different eras. But I'm not particularly impressed by Prost and Senna, at least for one reason. They raced in a period when the minimum weight of the car was taken WITHOUT the driver (and now WITH the driver), it's not a fact that they were the fastest, but the fact that they were very light is a fact. Compare Senna, who was 160+ pounds and all bones, with Mansell, who was almost 190 pounds and was by no means a boy. That's why there was a 25 kg difference on board, and I don't think I need to explain what that translates to on a lap. Yes, Prost won in 1993, but he was still a good driver, and even a monkey could have tried their luck on that Williams.
although in each individual championship, I cheered for them in their rivalry with Schumacher.
Key words. It's very difficult for you to be objective. I don't consider myself a Schumacher fan (I'm not inclined to fandom in general), but he always fought with passion, to the limit. Yes, sometimes breaking the rules, but he did it openly. Everyone talked about the team tactics at Ferrari, but almost no one talked about the fact that Irvine clearly let him pass only once - in the penultimate Grand Prix of 1997, and in return, he received an absolutely identical gift in Malaysia in 1999. Barrichello let him pass twice, and in return, he received at least four times. Mika also enjoyed no less bonuses from Dennis (if not more), but everyone remained silent and hypocritically pursed their lips. I enjoyed watching Michael COMPETE, because does anyone like watching movies or reading books about white and fluffy bunnies or about cunning people wearing angelic masks? No, people love and hate (which is largely almost the same thing) direct and open heroes. It is these that are remembered. That's why I look at the current characters in Formula 1, and most of them don't make me happy at all.
2Catch It's just that you wrote "clearly the best car" for 5 years in a row, but when analyzed, it turned out to be only 2 out of five. Of course, the concept of a "car" should include not only speed, but also reliability, tires, mechanics, etc., but
Schumacher had exactly all of that. And by "best car," I also meant the best team. Schumacher would not have been Schumacher without Ross Brawn and Jean Todt. This is especially evident now, when Ferrari lost the last of the Mohicans, Jean Todt, and problems started immediately, just like with other teams—either fuel doesn't reach the tank or a nut isn't tightened. Under Todt, such things simply didn't happen.
I think the issue is not stupidity, but simply that Michael is faster than Mika. With everything else being almost equal, that was the deciding factor.
It was exactly stupidity. McLaren had another driver, and in 2000, the bet should have been placed specifically on David. Mika lost his motivation, but Ron preferred to give him vacations to recover it, and then make strange decisions in some races, which ultimately led to a failed end of the season
Yes, he stalled, but he was leading by a solid margin on the most indicative track of the championship, so Ferrari was better, though not critically. In a similar situation, but with the opposite polarity in 2000, Schumacher managed to pull through and became champion; I won't even mention 1994.
Did I say anywhere that Mika was better than Schumi? And again, the Macs had speed in 2001, but no reliability.
Better remember. Speed was more or less okay, but there were some problems every other race, if not more often. On the other hand, Williams had a period when they should have done 3-4 double wins in a row, but didn't because of infighting and their own mistakes. And Schumacher took advantage of this, unlike Kimi, although there are no particular complaints about him, after all, they had incomparably different experience.
The Macs probably had the third strongest car that year; Williams, yes, in the middle of the season, were simply unstoppable. And the fact that Schumacher became champion even with problems shows that his car was wonderful, especially since the problems were not in reliability, but rather in circumstances—now a spin, now a puncture.
You cannot compare Fangio and Schumacher—completely different eras. As for Prost and Senna, I am not particularly enthusiastic for at least one reason. They raced back when the minimum weight of the car was taken WITHOUT the driver (whereas now it is WITH the driver); it's not a fact that they were the fastest, but it is a fact that they were very light. Compare Senna, 160+ and just bones, with Mansell, nearly 190 and by no means a small boy in terms of build. So they had a difference of 25kg on board; I think I don't need to explain what that translates to per lap. Yes, Prost won 1993, but he was still a good driver, though even a monkey could have tried its luck in that Williams.
I agree that you can't, and I'm not comparing them, otherwise I would have clearly ranked everyone. The current situation with the driver actually gives an advantage to the small guys. And as for the monkey :) Hill tried his luck in 94 in the same car :)
Key words. It's very difficult for you to be objective.
Explain why? :) The fact that I am not a fan of one driver or another does not prevent me from being objective. I respect Schumacher very much, but that didn't stop me from not rooting for him :) Although why? In 2006, I rooted specifically for him.
I don't consider myself a fan of Schumacher (I'm not prone to fandom in general), but he always fought passionately, at the limit. Yes, sometimes breaking the rules, but he only did it openly. Everyone talked about team tactics at Ferrari, but almost no one said that Irvine clearly let him pass only once—in the penultimate Grand Prix of 1997—and in return received an absolutely identical gift in Malaysia 1999. Barrichello let him pass twice, and in return received it at least four times. Mika himself enjoyed no fewer bonuses from Dennis (if not more), but everyone remained silent and hypocritically pursed their lips.
They didn't remain silent :) I was always swearing in front of the TV, especially at the end of 97 and beginning of 98, when David gave victories to Ron's favorite. I understand that they had completely different relationships there, but Coulthard at Mac was in an even worse position than Rubens at Ferrari, with only one difference. Rubinho came to a ready-made car, while David put in a lot of effort to prepare the championship car.
I liked watching Michael COMPETE, because does anyone really like watching movies or reading books about white and fluffy bunnies or about tricksters wearing an angelic mask? No, people love and hate (which is often almost the same thing) direct and open heroes. Those are the ones who are remembered. That's why I look at the current Formula characters, and most of them don't please me at all.
I liked it too. Schumacher was the last real champion. One who could become champion not only thanks to, but also in spite of.
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Problems started immediately, just like with other teams – either the fuel wouldn't reach the tank, or they wouldn't tighten a nut. This simply didn't happen with Todt.
Yeah, and they also learned to crush the hopes of smaller teams, especially in Monaco, with a red bucket. Plus, red lights mean nothing to some Afro-British drivers. But that's just a side note.
In that year, McLaren probably had the third-best car, and Williams was simply unstoppable in the middle of the season. The fact that Schumacher became champion even with problems shows that he had a great car, especially since the problems weren't related to reliability, but rather to circumstances, like crashes or punctures.
But sometimes he managed to win even in races where he had a less competitive car and a lot of problems. A driver can still make a difference. Recently, I've also started including the factor of luck in the concept of the car. When I think about last season, I immediately want to steal Hamilton's lucky charm (a rabbit's foot???) Although, maybe he has innate Expert Luck, but at least Basic Loosership.
The fact that the driver is now also gives an advantage to the smaller teams.
Yes, it does to some extent, due to the ability to slightly adjust the car's weight distribution with ballast. I don't think they make some parts thicker for greater strength or anything like that. But all of this is insignificant compared to the additional 25 kg. That's a fact.
And regarding the "monkey" – Hill tried it in '94 with the same car.
No. In 1994, they changed the chassis (by the way, many believe that it had significant understeer, which was a thorn in Senna's side, and partly because of this, he crashed, because he simply didn't know how to avoid taking risks). Plus, Byrne made a good chassis, on the evolution of which Ferrari later drove. Williams' advantage was actually equal to the advantage in the engine, large, but not as huge as in 1993. Although, maybe they should have tried the "monkey" option? :)
Explain why? The fact that I'm not a fan of one driver or another doesn't prevent me from being objective.
Well, you said you were rooting against him, and that already interferes.
In 2006, I was actually rooting for him.
But I didn't really want Ferrari to win. Renault had a much better car (Costa is clearly not Byrne), and the Stallions had no chance until the FIA intervened and banned the mass dampers. This wasn't a ground effect or moving aerodynamics; I was shocked. But rooting for Schumacher and against Alonso is always a pleasure. I don't like this Spanish hypocrite and plagiarist. I thought that Formula 1 had enough of one of them, but then another one appeared. That's why they didn't get along at McLaren.
I wasn't silent. I always cursed in front of the TV, especially at the end of '97 and the beginning of '98, when David gave the favorite, Ron, the victories.
You weren't silent, but McLaren and the peloton were. As for me, I think David was faster, but his time, unfortunately, has passed.
Well, you said you were rooting against it, but this is already a hindrance.
No :) Not against it :) I'm just a Coulthard fan, and of course, I couldn't root for him and against his team, and his teammates were Hill and Hakkinen. So I was rooting for them in the championship race.
You weren't silent, but McLaren and the peloton were silent. And in my opinion, David was faster, but his time, unfortunately, has passed.
Of course, he's faster, but I don't agree about the time; as long as he's racing, I'll believe in him :) By the way, my faith was rewarded with his podium in Canada :smile03: Now I'm waiting for his victory in Magny-Cours :smile49:
And about the 25 kg. Kubica lost 6 kg in the off-season and really believes that it helped him a lot in increasing his speed. By the way, comparing his results with Nick's results last year and this year, you agree with him.
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Of course, it's faster, but I disagree about the time; while he's driving, I'll keep believing in him. By the way, my faith was rewarded with his podium finish in Canada. Now I'm waiting for his victory in Magny-Cours.
That would be cool, but it's unlikely.
And about the 25 kg. Kubica lost 6 kg in the offseason and genuinely believes that it helped him improve his speed.
Self-suggestion is a powerful force. Besides, he has become more experienced, and the team is working for him (it's financially more advantageous with young drivers; if they don't quickly become champions, they're written off, and GP-2 actively produces young talents). We already saw team tactics in Montreal with 100% certainty, as demonstrated by BMW; just remember Kubica's very easy overtake of Heidfeld and the latter's face on the podium.
Self-suggestion is a powerful force. Besides, he has gained more experience, and the team is working for him (it's financially more advantageous with young drivers; if they don't quickly become champions, they are written off, while GP-2 actively produces young and promising drivers). We already saw team tactics in action by BMW in Montreal with 100% certainty; just remember how easily Kubica overtook Heidfeld, and the latter's face on the podium.
There's no doubt that team tactics were used, it's clear. But Robert is indeed faster than Nick this season; just look at the qualifying results, while last season the situation was completely different. Experience, yes, but probably not just that.
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In my opinion, the best athlete is Nabuhiko Takada, a Japanese Bushido wrestler.
His fights are something special!!!
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And here is my list; I can't choose just one.
Garry Kasparov
Michael Jordan
Mario Lemieux
Michael Schumacher
Pete Sampras
Valeri Kharlamov
From them, I'll probably choose Kasparov.
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Ole-Einar Bjørndalen. He's a legend. Although he's not performing as well as he used to. And from our own: Chudov, Yaroshenko, Kruglov... Zaitseva, Pylyova, Sleptsova... In short, yes, Kosha remembered that she's also a fan of biathlon.
Well, here's my list, I can't choose just one Garry Kasparov Michael Jordan Mario Lemieux Michael Schumacher Pete Sampras Valery Kharlamov
I'd probably choose Kasparov from them.
Are you interested in chess?
If so, I greet you as a colleague.
Still, among chess players, I would highlight Robert James Fischer!
In his time, he practically won against the best chess players of that era with ease (especially in 1968-1971).
The games of this grandmaster at that time helped me significantly improve my game and fulfill the requirements for the Candidate Master of Sports title.
Hooray! Today, Anand drew with Kramnik and defended his title as world champion! He is currently the best.
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I play at the first-class level. I've played, and Kasparov is still Kasparov. A unique chess player. As for Fischer, he didn't really play against serious opponents, or if he did, it wasn't for long.
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In my opinion, there are a huge number of worthy candidates. BUT, without a doubt, the best is Alexander Ovechkin.
СМЕРТЬ ПОПСЕ!:smile10:
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This year, it seems to me that it's Usain Bolt! 2 world records in sprinting – that's not something to sneeze at :smile24:
Когда я умер, небыло никого, кто бы это опроверг клан "Vampires" P.S. ...но против креста Я не пойду никогда...
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Yeah... Bolt is truly unique. I think he'll set a few more records.
ДУРАКОВ ОЧЕНЬ МАЛО, НО ОНИ РАССТАВЛЕНЫ ТАК ГРАМОТНО, ЧТО ВСТРЕЧАЮТСЯ НА КАЖДОМ ШАГУ. Прошу прощения у Arandor-а. Я слишком резко отреагировал. Просто очень люблю спорт. Извини...[/SIZE]