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#202
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Lord Vampire;152840
Not everyone knows how to cook them properly)))
P.S. I still remember our discussion on Nival about the rapid development of Necromancers and Dark Elves; have you changed your opinion yet?)))

Well, firstly, we were arguing about the development speed of not Dungeon and Necropolis, but Academy and Dungeon. ;)
And secondly, I haven't changed my opinion, and I've even strengthened it. Now, only Orcs can compete with Dungeon in terms of development speed. And even they can't compete with Letos.

And, to avoid going off-topic, I'm posting a replay (someone asked) of a Utopia run with 4 Vampires on the 1st week. I'll say right away - the replay isn't mine, although I've used this principle to complete hundreds of Yarlo runs.
And once again, the Vampire ability that reduces HP needs to be adjusted, because it's overpowered...
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Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...
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For creeping in Heroes 5, you don't need vampires, but in the endgame, they can be decisive. And I really want to take a look at this replay, but I don't know how. Oh yeah! I remembered how vampires in Heroes 3 scream in pain - "Ehh!". It's really annoying!
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Want to know how to defeat vampires? It’s very simple: take an Academy unit, cast the Wizard’s Sign on them, and then hit them with EARTH SHOCK!
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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[QUOTE="[r59*Maniac'];153205"]For creeping in Heroes 5, you don't need Vampires, but in the final stages, they can be crucial.
And I really want to see this replay, but I don't know how.
Oh yeah! I remembered how the Vampires in Heroes 3 scream in pain - "Ehh!". It's really annoying![/QUOTE]

Watch the replay - you'll see that they are very useful (click on it - it will download - unpack it with an archiver - move it to the profile folder, which is in My Documents, if you don't have a Replays folder there, create it, put the file there, load the game - settings - video recording - battle recording - and watch it).

But I don't understand...
a) What is the purpose of the lower-tier Vampires? To attract the Spectres there? Unlikely...
b) Rushing to level 7 in the Battle to the Last is not questionable, but on what map did this game take place? After all, first you need to get to it... And secondly, level 7 in the first week is crazy... But it's clear that the player is smart - I won't be surprised if he reached level 30 in a month with such tricks...

2. Julianna. In this topic, Spectres are off-topic, but... The computer chooses randomly, but if you miss 3 times, the 4th shot will hit... And vice versa... 3 hits - 4 misses.
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

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ValgallaWolf;154110

I just don't understand...
a) What's the purpose of the lower-tier Vampires? To attract the Spectres? Unlikely...

They are placed in two stacks to select the units with the lowest initiative, and from which they can recover. In this case, it was the Black Dragons.
ValgallaWolf;154110

b) Rushing to level 7 in a battle to the last is understandable, but on what map did this game take place? After all, first you need to get there... And secondly, reaching level 7 in the first week is crazy... But it's clear that the player is smart - I wouldn't be surprised if he reached level 30 in a month with such tricks...

As far as I remember, it was the Dragon's Passage map.

And regarding the leveling up - on some maps, you can reach level 27 in just 2 weeks. I've personally verified it. Not with a Necromancer, though...
Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...
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That’s the thing, it wasn’t a Necromancer! Another question… Was the final goal to create a powerful Necromancer? Or was the leveling process based on a different principle?
So many centuries
So many Gods
We were the prisoners of our own fantasy
But now we are marching
Against these Gods
I'm the wizard, I will change it all
Valhalla - Deliverance
Why've you ever forgotten me


19.08.2008 СК Олимпийский.Я запомню это навсегда!!!

Как играть онлайн в Герои 5??Ответ здесь
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Topic closed, just arguments.


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Vampires are powerful due to their ability to drain life, allowing them to easily defeat enemies, especially those with low levels. However, I prefer using them against the strongest enemies because they are rarely targeted in return (except by Princes, but I don't use them).
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Vampires are awesome because they are vampires :) They are easy to accumulate. Since they regenerate themselves. Is it a good idea to attack with large stacks of them? I don't know. I leave that to liches and skeletons, plus fire elementals or chaos spells; I only use vampires to attack weak enemies. I save them, so to speak. They are most often in my defense.
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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No, at the beginning of the battle, you can deal significant damage to the enemy's fast stacks with vampires without taking any damage in return – using cavalry, knights, and similar units. But when there are only a few vampires left, it's best to attack weak stacks, especially those with lower defense, to replenish your vampire numbers. Low-level archers are usually ideal for this.
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Quickly take them out?:) As soon as he gets the chance, my opponent will send all his units against the Vampires. And if I bring my units forward so they can attack, there won't be anything left of them:)
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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Lord Vampire that's exactly how you should do it while they are creating vampires; their other troops will be defeated, and then you can revive the vampires.
Вступай вКлан "Вампиры" и пополни его ряды !
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Если ты спориш с идиотом проверь не делает ли он то же самого
Пунктация и орфография авторские, критике не подлежат.

Мы не жалели времени и силы,
Земля дрожала под ногами тьмы,
И род людской, беспомощный и хилый,
Рабами стал закрывшейся тюрьмы.
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and if the opponent places a unit in the position of the vampires, you can no longer revive the vampires. Besides, it doesn't take many turns to kill the vampires (meaning most of my other troops should survive while I'm fighting the vampires. Considering the necromancers' low attack power, too), so I try to protect the vampires.
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You need to protect the Banshees and Ghosts, as they become very powerful towards the end, and place the Vampires in the thick of the battle so that everyone attacks them.
Вступай вКлан "Вампиры" и пополни его ряды !
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Если ты спориш с идиотом проверь не делает ли он то же самого
Пунктация и орфография авторские, критике не подлежат.

Мы не жалели времени и силы,
Земля дрожала под ногами тьмы,
И род людской, беспомощный и хилый,
Рабами стал закрывшейся тюрьмы.