The essence of the tactics when playing as the Dark Elves. — Dungeon

TonyMontana

3/15/2008 11:16 AM UTC

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I played Heroes of Might and Magic III for 10 years, and not only did I play it, but mapmaking was also very easy and interesting there, especially because my computer didn't allow me to do more. And with the release of Heroes of Might and Magic V, new technologies also appeared in my home along with the internet :D... But despite my eternal love for the third part, the fifth one is, in my opinion, much better in terms of gameplay!!! More complex doesn't mean difficult, it means more interesting!
Regarding Orcs and the Town Portal: I always take two magic skills... it's just hard to guess which magic skill the Town Portal will take... the worst thing is if you're playing as an Orc and you take Anti-Chaos, and the Town Portal levels up Dark Magic and Summoning... that's a trap....

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Нэйко

3/15/2008 11:21 AM UTC

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TonyMontana is right, but besides luck, you need to consider logistics (if you're traveling), then machine management (essential, just like luck), and attack (if you have space). And if all of that is present and developed, all that remains is to have a decent army, a decent level, and the ability to manage the army. Because if you have a bad commander, you'll have a bad hero too. :smile17:

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Полосатая

3/15/2008 11:24 AM UTC

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Actually, those who haven't played Heroes of Might and Magic III will probably struggle with Heroes of Might and Magic V.

Ha... I only played the fourth game, and not for very long... But I managed to handle the fifth one quite well... And anyone can learn, even someone who has never heard of the Heroes series before (although it will take some time, of course). So, I don't think that being skilled in the third game will be that important.

So back off your rules,
Back off your jive!
Cause I'm sick of not living,
To stay alive,
Leave me alone!
I'm not asking a lot -
I just don't want to be controlled,
That's all I want.
All I want!
(с)The Offspring

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Нэйко

3/15/2008 11:36 AM UTC

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Kitty, if you're playing as a Recruit, it's easy, if you're playing as a Warrior, you can manage without much trouble if you control 3 Heroes, if you're a Knight like me, then Heroes are your thing, and if you're playing as a Hero, then either you're cheating, or you're a really good player:smile17:. But the fact that you've played Heroes 4 already gives you a small advantage:smile20:.

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Mdance

3/15/2008 11:46 AM UTC

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Mutare Drakke;160455

Kitty, if you're playing as a Recruit, then of course it's easy; if you're playing as a Warrior, then if you control 3 Heroes, you can manage without too much trouble; if you're a Knight like me, then Heroes are your thing, but if you're a Hero, then: either you're cheating, or you're a really good player:smile17:. But the fact that you've played Heroes 4 already gives you a small advantage:smile20:.

What kind of argument is this in the Temple of Malassa?:smile16:

Regarding Machine Mages for Warlocks - that's a very debatable statement. I've never seen a Warlock-Machine Mage in real life, but if you've seen one, then you're hallucinating... If you want to talk about it, please do. A kind Warlock-Maniac will cure you....:D

Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...

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Полосатая

3/15/2008 11:57 AM UTC

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Kitty, if you're playing as a Recruit, then of course it's easy; if you're playing as a Barbarian, then if you control 3 Heroes, you can manage without too much trouble; if you're a Knight like me, then Heroes is your thing, but if you're playing as a Hero, then either you're cheating, or you're a really good player. But the fact that you've played Heroes 4 already gives you a small advantage.

And I, by the way, learned for quite a long time, played through the campaigns, before I met a friend in an equal battle, and she, by the way, played Heroes 3, but that didn't stop her from losing miserably. :D And playing as a Hero is certainly difficult, but not so much that there's no chance of winning. So don't make hasty conclusions.

So back off your rules,
Back off your jive!
Cause I'm sick of not living,
To stay alive,
Leave me alone!
I'm not asking a lot -
I just don't want to be controlled,
That's all I want.
All I want!
(с)The Offspring

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Mdance

3/15/2008 12:14 PM UTC

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Kitty;160472

Actually, I spent quite a long time learning, playing through campaigns, before I met a friend in a fair fight, and she, by the way, had played the third game, but that didn't stop her from losing miserably. :D And playing as a hero is certainly difficult, but not to the point where there's absolutely no chance of winning. So, don't jump to conclusions.

Talk, talk, and talk again....:smile36:

Oh, I love talking to girls – they come up with such cute nonsense that it makes my heart happy...

Don't start with me... By the way, the Warlock is one of the few heroes who doesn't care much. Because he has enough money for two upgrades. And he doesn't need anything else...

P.S. I'm not talking about super-long maps...

Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...

Alucard

3/20/2008 11:24 PM UTC

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Talk, talk, and talk again....

Oh, I love talking to girls – they say such sweet nonsense, it makes my heart happy...

Don't make fun of the person))))))))) Although the argument about "playing the third game" is very strange. If it were that simple, I would be a true hero, after all, I have 8 years of experience in Heroes and 13 years of gaming experience. But there are also many good games besides Heroes, especially besides Heroes 5; I'm just a pervert who is obsessed with Heroes 4.
There are such good games as Starcraft and Warhammer, which also require training to play professionally, and there are many other simply good games, usually 2-3 per month, and before the New Year, it's about 6-7, and I want to play them all, and there is no time left for Heroes, although I love Heroes because, unlike the old games, you can play them without daily training; the main thing is an analytical mind, general experience, and originality in terms of tactics; it's like chess, only very diverse.))))
Damn, I've gone off-topic.

Yes, and the Warlock can indeed run around calmly with Stalkers and Furies, but this is only against the AI; I wouldn't risk it against a human player. This justifies their status, meaning you can be independent of a Castle and try to seize a favorable moment and attack, although the question always arises: is it worth running to a Castle or can you hold out longer? After all, no one will deliver spells to us.

Нет, я же Гитлер.

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Mdance

3/21/2008 1:34 AM UTC

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Alucard;162343

Don't mock the person)))))))))

Well, I'm not mocking, I'm teasing in a friendly way. I'm not a monster to mock girls.

Alucard;162343

Yes, a warlock really can calmly run around with stalkers and furies, but that's only against a bot; against a human I wouldn't take such a risk. This justifies their status, meaning you can be not tied to the castle but try to seize a favorable moment and attack, although the question always arises: is it worth running to the castle or can you hold out a bit longer? No one is going to deliver spells to us after all.

I disagree.
1. You can launch a surprise attack on neutral ground only with a "breakthrough" army. After all, if the enemy is also there, they are clearing the area with an army of roughly equal strength. And you can jump to an enemy respawn with these minimal forces, harass the enemy army, and buy your way back home.
2. Spells are freely "delivered" to us by skills such as Fire Warriors, Secrets of Chaos, Secret Revelation, Magic of Speed, Stone Hardness, and Sudden Attack. :) Spells are also removed from creatures, learned in Temples, obtained in treasure vaults, purchased from a merchant, and granted by artifacts.

Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...

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Mish-gan

9/10/2008 5:52 AM UTC

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Guys, I need some help! I'm having a major showdown with a friend on the "Lands of Outcasts" map! The difficulty is the second to last one (forgot the name). Here's how it starts: Red – Haven (my friend and main rival) plays as Dugal (mainly develops ballista, attack, defense, light magic, and logistics). Blue – Fortress – computer. Green – Me, playing as the Dungeon, starting underground on the upper right. Yellow – Sylvan – computer. 1. Which hero should I choose? 2. Which skills should I develop? 3. In what order should I build my castle? 4. What's the best battle strategy in the early game? What should I capture first, how, and with whom should I fight the neutrals – especially the ranged units? 5. What's the battle strategy in the mid-game? 6. How can I capture Utopia as early as possible? 7. Most importantly – the final battle against Dugal (I'm tired of his crossbowmen and the insane defense of his units). 8. Any other useful tips? I'm really looking forward to a qualified answer! Thanks in advance!

Wistrit

9/11/2008 1:03 AM UTC

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Playing as Elves against the Order is almost impossible. The only chance is to make Paladins and Archangels your favorite enemies (very unlikely). You'll crush him with Bastion, but in general, you're doomed. Humans rule.

Don't be offended, but it's nonsense... and "elves" should be spelled with "e" :)

1. Which hero should I choose?

Choose Erin... she has Chaos initially...

2. Which skills should I develop?

Try Chaos, Sorcery, and Education...

3. In what order should I build my Castle?

Hunters and Furies, and then as your money allows... and of course, move towards the Capitol.

4. Battle strategy in the early game? What to capture first, how and with whom to fight neutrals – especially those with ranged attacks?

First, capture the wood and ore. :) Against archers, use a large group of Hunters.

6. Battle tactics in the mid-game?

Kill everyone with a large group of Hunters :)

5. How to capture Utopia as early as possible?

With a large group of Hunters and irresistible magic. :) or with a large army.

6. The most important thing – the final battle with Dugald (he's driving me crazy with his crossbowmen and insane unit defense)

Meteor Shower! Target a ballista and someone else! Then you can kill the archers with Shock.

7. Anything else that might be useful!

Eat some ice cream, and stay away from Nuclear Blast. ;)

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

Mish-gan

9/11/2008 7:25 AM UTC

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Thanks for the advice, it's a shame that not all of it is constructive!
Can anyone suggest how to take Utopia with the fewest losses?

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Vertik;195024

It's almost impossible to defeat Haven with Elves:p. The only chance is to make the Paladin and Archangel your enemies:D (very unlikely). You'll crush him with Bastion:smile44:, but in general, you're doomed:smile35:. Humans rule:smile36:

I disagree, I easily defeat Paladins and Archangels! The problem is the enhanced archers! How do I fight them?

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KonServator

9/11/2008 11:00 AM UTC

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Mish-gan;195045

Can anyone tell me how to conquer Utopia with the fewest losses?

To do this, it's a good idea to recruit Vaishana at the beginning and level up his Summoning magic. During the battle with the dragons, use invisibility on the hunters and summon a phoenix and elementals – they will deal with the dragons. There was also a post about Summoning magic in the thread, the link to which is in WisTrit's signature. However, black dragons are not always found in Utopias, so it makes sense to level up Chaos magic in the traditional way.

Mish-gan;195045

I disagree; I can easily defeat paladins and archangels! The problem is the enhanced crossbowmen! How do I fight them?

Shadow Lords and Night Queens cast Dispel. If you don't have too many of them, and the Order faction has a lot of archers, it makes sense to cast Dispel on them. Also, for your information, the Crystal of Secrets blocks archers. And finally, there's Chaos magic... There are many options... :smile13:

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Mish-gan

9/11/2008 12:10 PM UTC

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Basically, yes, I don't know why I didn't think of that before, thanks! Maybe you can suggest something else useful regarding the war against Haven? Tactics?

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Also, if you can, please answer my questions from post #70? I would be very grateful!

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Wistrit

9/11/2008 12:13 PM UTC

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Then, ask questions in a way that allows for specific answers. After all, you've already received answers to those questions... and they were quite helpful.

However, if you specify what exactly interests you, I'll try to provide a more detailed answer...

P.S. not everything, just be a little more specific... for example, how to effectively use those same "Hunter" units.

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made