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Another question arises regarding online play. How does the presence of a modified Cranim.txt file affect the game in online mode?
Another question: how does the presence of an unmodified Cranim.txt file affect the game (and not just in online mode)?
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Damn, Clinton!!! I almost never manage to complete a battle based on someone else's description in terms of morale and luck. But I only mentioned this once in a private message to Kamikaze. And I couldn't even imagine that it would lead to accusations on the forum. First of all, you need to think about YOUR problems, your computer, your system, and so on. What Anton and his friends said against VBN is simply disgusting. And regarding the program with morale... the idea is this: if everyone can use it without settings that require knowledge of the internal workings of RAM and other things, then I'm all for it!!! It will simply save time. Everyone will be able to control smaller armies. And that's it. And regarding the necessity of morale or luck - the final stage of the World Cup. Neither my battle nor the winner's can be completed without at least one luck or morale bonus. And this was planned from the beginning. The program will simply simplify the task for EVERYONE. What's the problem?
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Well, here. It won't admit what the problem is until you start pushing.
Antoshka, why are you so intolerant? What does "pushing" have to do with anything? You should learn to control yourself and only talk about the matter at hand. What's with all these phrases that attack a person's character?
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Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...
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Another question: how does the presence of an unmodified Cranim.txt file affect the game (and not just in online mode)?
We will investigate...

Surprisingly, I only learned about this file from your post.
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and I want to add once again what I've said many times before. In each header for each tournament, there MUST be links not only to the FAQ and other things but also to all sorts of tools that are used by top players. I'm not a top player, so I didn't know about them. But that's my problem. Is there anything written anywhere that this *.txt file is illegal?

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and in general, how was it possible to make Heroes 2 so bad – it's more of a torment than a game... At home, I have the Home Edition installed, and my laptop is optimized for it.
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Just an hour ago, vbn explained himself, also changed the animation speed, went to the forum to tell everyone, and here he already remembered everything himself. I think that recently, no one knew that the probability of dropping a Blade of Destiny was related to the animation speed on the battlefield, including vbn. It just so happened that vbn unintentionally made critical changes to the game. In fact, the rules of the tournament were violated (changing the game structure), and vbn admitted it. On the other hand, the Blade of Destiny bug was not prohibited in this tournament.
And yet, ignorance does not excuse responsibility.
In reality, we can only sympathize with vbn.
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Antoshka, why are you being so intolerant? What does kicking have to do with anything? You should learn to control yourselves and only talk about what's relevant. What's with all these phrases that attack a person's character?
I don't see a single post where I didn't control myself or didn't talk about what's relevant.
There's a fact: an unprecedented event happened.
No one can repeat it.
Why? - A vague answer...
Why again? - Another vague answer...
And the fact that you interfered in the game process - that's a fact, and you confirmed it after being cornered.
It's another matter that in this case, you probably didn't do it intentionally.
So, observing the fact of a change in the game's gameplay, am I supposed to say that it's supposed to be that way? No, I'm outraged, and I openly state that. And I demand explanations. Explanations followed. Whether it's legal or not is not for me to judge. But at least in this situation, there is no longer any uncertainty, and that's good.
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It would be better to explain how this program (the original cranim.txt file) affects the gameplay.

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Surprisingly, I only learned about this file from your post.
0_0 The entire Portal uses it. Personally, I learned about it from one of the online players on the Portal, and Gorbunov actually sent me the link (do you know him?).
6. It is forbidden: to use cheat programs or codes in the final walkthrough, as well as additional programs that can change the game's structure.
If we approach this formally, this file is NOT a program and NOT a code. Therefore, it is not a violation.
But in essence, vbn accidentally put himself in a situation with an even worse random generation, if we average it across many cases. But in this particular case, he got lucky, although you can still generate even better results.
Gentlemen, I have a question! Does the original Cranim.txt affect the game's structure?
In theory, no, because it doesn't shorten the time that affects the drop rate.
I just experimentally checked: I loaded a save, and at a certain animation speed (set in the game), the morale reaches zero after a delay of approximately 6.5 seconds, and it moves for 2 seconds. I add the original file, and the picture doesn't change. The morale reaches zero after a delay of 6.5 seconds before the click, although it moves almost instantly.

And most importantly, if it turns out that modifying Cranim leads to stability like in versions 2 and 5, that would be excellent in all respects, and vbn should be awarded an extra medal for another deed for the benefit of the tournament community.
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Yes, the original file doesn't seem to have any effect. I just checked with the same file... And someone already mentioned that the monster's movement speed doesn't affect the number of R! But the fact that it turns faster and attacks faster does have an impact...

But what do you think, if we use this file, will the morale drop be like in Heroes 2, and programs like Simo's luck enhancer or morale boosters will become useless on their own!!!! Wouldn't that be a plus? What do you think?
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0_0 The entire Portal uses it. Personally, I first learned about it from an online player from the Portal, and Gorboonov actually sent me the link (do you know him?)

I wouldn't throw around words like that, entire, everyone... I didn't have that file. Now I looked into the treasure trove, and indeed remembered seeing a file that reduces animation time, but I had no need for it. The name is unfamiliar to me because it's not listed in the treasure trove.
If we approach it formally, that file is NOT a program and NOT code. Consequently, it is not a violation.
But essentially vbn accidentally put himself in conditions of even deliberately worse generation, if we average across many cases. However, in this specific case he got lucky, although purely generating can yield even better results.

If we approach it formally, then of course it's not a program. So let's just go poking around in all resource files, for example. Or straight into saves, why stop there? Let's give ourselves 5000000 gems and forget about taking those griffin conservatories? Then we'll bulge our eyes and say: Why was it nullified? There was no use of programs.
The gameplay was altered. Whether it affected the walkthrough speed or not, I don't know. But the very fact of interference in the game was undeniable. Consciously or not, intentionally or not, that's a secondary question. And if we follow your logic, any interference can be justified.
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It would be better to explain how this program (the original cranim.txt) affects the gameplay.
It's all written there.
In columns:
1. Time between fidgets
2. Walk Animation Time
3. Attack Animation Time
4. Flight Animation Distance
5. Upper-right Missile Offset
6. Right Missile Offset
7. Lower-right Missile Offset
8. Missile Frame Angles
9. Troop Count Location Offset
10. Attack Climax Frame
11. Name (reference only)
It seems clear. Columns 2, 3, and 4 affect the animation speed. And in this file, column 1 has been changed.
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And most importantly, if it turns out that Cranim's modification leads to stability like in versions 2 and 5, that would be excellent in every way, and vbn should be awarded an extra medal for another deed for the benefit of the tournament community.

I believed in Vitalik until the very end, just because he has brought so much benefit to all of us. Surely, a person who releases such useful programs for public use wouldn't cheat. And, perhaps, with his help, we will get another masterpiece.

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I have version 1, you don't have any. Different versions of the game?

Before you write anything, familiarize yourself with the subject. Then we can talk.
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I checked as well. It's definitely true that the modified Cranim.txt affects the structure. The battle map became permanent. :)
However, I tested one battle with an external Cranim.txt and without it, and I didn't see any difference.
1 Rusty Dragon attacked 5 Mighty Gorgons, and it received Battle Damage (BD), and then attacked them again. BD appeared both with and without Cranim.txt. Therefore, I conclude that the animation accelerator does not affect the game's structure.
However, with the modified accelerator, not only does the Rusty Dragon not experience a morale drop, but the Gorgons also overwhelm the dragon with their deadly gaze in response. :smile40:

That's the situation...
Клан Homo homini

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...
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