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You know that 10 Russian soldiers were killed and 30 were wounded.

*Moderator: Be careful with your words... it's not right to blame an entire nation for the actions of its government.*
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To fight or not to fight? The war has already begun, and what happens next is beyond our control. Tskhinvali has been completely bombed, the Americans are sponsoring them, and Bush proudly admitted: "No one wants war," and yet it continues. At the same time, this entire conflict has been escalating for a long time, and there have been periodic skirmishes, and now it has all escalated into a war. I don't know what South Ossetia and Georgia are fighting over, but now our people are being killed there, and that's what I don't want the most. Again, this damned confrontation involving a third party.
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It's unlikely that we can confidently say who is right and who is wrong – this is politics, and from the perspective of an ordinary person who is not currently involved in this mess, nothing is clear at all. You have only heard the official version, which is convenient for Russia. Who knows what is really happening? If everything is as this version describes, then Georgia is behaving very indecently (to put it mildly). As for whether to fight or not, of course not. But who will ask? They will grab you by the scruff of the neck and throw you onto the front lines, giving you a rifle and showing you which way to shoot. Figure it out yourselves.

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It's time for us to transform into a superpower and trample the rest of the poles to hell. It's time for the miracle heroes to impale some heads on spears:smile14:

And it is because of such opinions that Russia is not loved and feared. Do you really need to destroy all the other countries where there are many people who have never done anything bad to Russia, and in particular to you, and did not want to? Have you thought about the consequences? Do you think that the best solution is to kill everyone? That's nonsense.
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You know, I've been listening to the news since I was 6 years old, both American news (my family has access to it) and Russian news. Comparing them, I've realized: no one is telling the truth. Everyone is afraid of the "blue-blooded" people. But I've clearly understood: in Russia, nothing has changed except for technology, buildings, and various subcultures. Everything else remains the same. In America, however, it's now like in the Roman Empire: whoever is stronger is right. But I'm a patriot. And I wish for the complete, and possibly absolute, destruction of those who kill my fellow citizens, my people.
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I checked your profile. It says you're almost 18. Are you sure? Maybe you clicked the wrong button when creating your account? Or are you just a hardcore troll? I don't understand what blue blood has to do with anything. You also said some strange things about technology and buildings. Patriot. Well, that's your business, and I can't argue with you about it. Let's imagine this situation: there are two Georgians. One killed our people in South Ossetia, and the other sends money from every paycheck to Russian orphanages (the situation is abstract, but nonetheless). Or, let's say the second one never wished Russia any harm and was against the war. This is a more likely scenario. Based on what you said, should we kill them both? Am I thinking correctly?
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I'd like to add something. I don't wish death upon those who are loyal to their country (and not just Russia, but also Georgia, and those who want peace between brotherly nations). By the way, the same thing happened in Heroes 5 – they didn't sort things out, and war broke out. But I, personally, would strangle all the politicians (including Russian ones) for whom this NASTY, FRATRICIDAL WAR is beneficial and necessary!

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I looked at your profile. It says you're almost 18. Are you sure? Maybe you clicked the wrong button when creating your account? Or are you just a troll. I don't understand what "blue blood" has to do with it. You also said something strange about technology and buildings. Patriot. Well, that's your business, I can't argue with you about that.
Let's imagine this situation: there are two Georgians. One killed our people in South Ossetia, and the other sent money from each paycheck to Russian orphanages (the situation is abstract, but nevertheless). Or, let's say, the second one never wished Russia any harm and was against the war. This is a more likely scenario. Based on your words, should both of them be killed? Am I thinking correctly?

I'M SORRY, but I just didn't express my thought well. I believe the people are not to blame – the "blue bloods" are to blame – all sorts of diplomats, marshals, ministers. I believe that both Saakashvili and Medvedev are just like little children who don't understand what to do – Saakashvili says that there are terrorists, murderers, and so on. Medvedev, apparently, understood what needs to be done. I believe (and probably many others) that after the liberation of Tskhinvali, one shouldn't stop, but should take a bigger piece, finally occupy Georgia, but Saakashvili's well-groomed head should be attached to an iron bayonet. He is Hitler, in Georgian guise.
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I disagree with you again. Hitler and everyone who followed the fascist movement, even those who weren't politicians, desperately wanted the happiness of Germany. So, should we leave those people alone? I would kill them. And also, didn't you recently talk about the complete destruction of all factions? It doesn't quite add up.

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You'll have to excuse me, but I just didn't express my thought very well. I believe the people are not to blame; it's the people of blue blood who are to blame – all sorts of diplomats, marshals, ministers. I think that Saakashvili and Medvedev are just like little children who don't understand what to do. Saakashvili says that there are terrorists, murderers, and so on. Medvedev seems to have understood what needs to be done. I believe (and probably many others) that after the liberation of Tskhinvali, we shouldn't stop; we need to take a bigger piece, finally occupy Georgia, but Saakashvili's well-groomed head should be attached to an iron bayonet. He is Hitler, in Georgian guise.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

And then we will be presented as monsters on the international stage. Excellent! According to the official version, we were invited there as peacekeepers – what kind of peacekeepers are we! And we also took half of Georgia:D
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Favorite, you're awesome! :D No, the issue of controlling the region is a matter of self-respect and influence. If we don't do it, what kind of country are we? There are many of our citizens there. If we don't show our strength today, we'll be torn apart tomorrow. The whole world is drooling over Siberia.
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A favorite, you're awesome:D No, the issue of taking control of the region is a matter of self-respect and influence. If we don't do it, what kind of country are we? There are many of our citizens there. If we don't show our teeth today, we'll be torn apart tomorrow. The whole world is drooling over Siberia.

Of course, Georgia needs to be taken. If we don't show the Americans who's boss, we'll never be free. I mean, what kind of country will we be if we don't crush this Saakashvili?
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And how are things with your sanity? Come on, declare war on the whole world with your brazen actions! No matter how strong Russia is, we cannot stand against all the powerful countries. And as sad as it is, America is much stronger now, whether it has decayed or not. Besides, Tskhinvali is far from us. Or have you already managed to annex Ossetia? Everyone who didn't surrender? You just said that you don't want to harm those who stand up for their country. I don't understand you at all; make up your mind. Kill the wounded? Have you heard of the Geneva Convention? Apparently not... Quarter them? Let's go back to the old ways - the rack, a soldering iron in the rear, the iron maiden, the wicker man, a cage over a swamp, at the very least! If even one Russian decides to do that, they will wipe us out. In such conflicts, one must behave with dignity in every sense of the word, and not be a savage, which is what you are suggesting.
P.S. I really hope you're not planning to go into politics.
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Hmm... The Americans are urging us to withdraw troops from South Ossetia and cease all military operations in the region. They also support the territorial integrity of Georgia, but, as stated in the American press, they currently lack the capacity to support Georgia, as their troops are deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
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I can't vouch for its accuracy, but here is the situation in the hotspots from the other side...
And in general, I see that someone here thinks they're so smart, ready to bring all countries to their knees, a patriot, damn it. First, they should read in the dictionary what patriotism is. Instead of war, you can find many other ways to help your country, and it's easy to wave your fists from behind a screen.
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I am the thunder that awakens the earth,
I am that which gives the night air its chill.

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Wars are a foolish thing. And if you say that about Ukraine? There are many Ukrainians here, and you, Favorite of the Gods, risk getting hit in the face with a "Kobzar"!
In general, you have disappointed me a lot.
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These "patriots" are already getting on my nerves; they think that the louder they shout about how they're going to kick everyone's ass, the more patriotic they become in the eyes of others. But when it comes to doing something useful, they're nowhere to be found. But, of course... Give me a cool weapon, and I'll fight for Russia! I suspect that when it actually comes down to it, their attitude will change somewhat. I'm not trying to delude myself about my own behavior in such situations.
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This damned war, it seems all of this wasn't for nothing; I think the Georgians attacked at the urging of the Americans. And you'll see, they'll try to portray us as some kind of occupiers. It seems that, in part, the war is a distraction from Georgia's internal problems, but Saakashvili also has a flimsy excuse, as rotten as the world itself, like he's trying to restore order in his territories, with the aim of establishing some kind of democracy. And the strike by the Grad multiple rocket launcher system on a peaceful city seems to be a tool for establishing this "democracy." The problem is also that the UN, it seems, doesn't care about anything; at least, the excuse "It's too late, we can't do anything," which was stated a few hours after the city was shelled, speaks to this. Otherwise, how can you imagine such idiocy? "War? No, I haven't slept yet..." In this situation, you definitely shouldn't wait. And Russia can't officially intervene in the conflict; it seems that this could be transformed into an intervention, or who knows what else. Of course, I want our guys to not fight there, but something tells me that the aggression is also directed against Russia... It's all sad, especially on the eve of the Olympic Games...
Kill the wounded?
Unfortunately, this is exactly the rule that applies in the conflict zone.
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