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1) Redraw the site itself, its structure will most likely change (open question - I'd like to hear suggestions)

I'm quite satisfied with what's there:)

2) Lighten the forum, I think I'm not the only one noticing the constant lag. Perhaps we can resolve this on the hardware level

that would be nice - earlier it was often impossible to access the server

4) We will reconsider the management system

heh

As for the last point, I think it would be reasonable to select a small group of the most dedicated individuals to the project, and grant them such authority that they, as a council, could manage it - let's try to get rid of the anarchic-tyrannical regime

))) just don't give root access to those rights)))

And so, questions on the agenda:
1) What should the new look of the site itself be?

already expressed myself - everything is fine as it is.

2) What needs to be removed/added to the forum? Should we change the engine of it? What about the reputation system - is it needed in its current form, should it be kept?

I think those who know the technical side would answer this question better.

And most importantly:
1) Who will be part of the HeroesWorld management council?

dunno.. the main thing is that tournaments keep going, new players come:)

I am quite satisfied with what we have

The structure needs to be reworked, so the design change will be forced—I'm sure it will only get better.

that would come in handy - back in the day it was often impossible to get on the server

A difficult question, because it is possible, as mentioned above, that a lot will have to be abolished... but a light version will be available.

heh

Something wrong? :)

))) just don't give those rights to the root users)))

Who is that? :) And I'll note that management will be concentrated in the council, not in one pair of hands as before.

I think this question is better answered by those who know the technical side.

Why? If there should be numbers, not vague indicators, then the technical part is irrelevant here—there will be numbers.

dunno.. the main thing is that tournaments keep going and new players keep coming

That's precisely why we need to restructure HeroesWorld so that people come more actively. Right now everything is left to drift, which isn't good, would you agree?

Hello everyone, hope you're doing well.
1. The website needs to be redesigned. It feels a bit rough around the edges. The site looks too cluttered. The overall structure is very bulky and doesn't quite fit the aesthetic. The background is plain, and the design is quite ordinary (like a wooden window). Everything is standard. You could use some 3D elements, especially on the main page (I mean the buttons). By the way, it looks like an information window (an image and text, nothing more). You could create some kind of animation for opening the window.
2. The forum needs to be optimized; it's definitely too slow. But I don't quite understand what users can do about it.
3. Here's what I think: We need a chat – 100%. I'd also revise the emoticons; it's best to create them in a uniform style so that everything looks neat and stylish. We should also review the database function a bit, add something interesting, and make it something that requires some effort to achieve.
4. I don't have any ideas for this.
P.S. I agree with Starhan on point 2.

Good morning/afternoon/evening/night to everyone (Highlight the appropriate one with a marker on the screen)
1) Ink once sent me one of the old HeroesWorld redesign projects, so I would like to see the site in a similar compact style (imho, I'm attaching an archive with an image below (it's large))
2) I agree with Witch.
3) Well, saying that a chat is needed doesn't really say anything. And as for emoticons - I'd like to see more knightly ones, heroic ones, and so on...
4) That's not for me.

Yeah… The design needs to be more beautiful and modern… Or really like in Heroes of Might and Magic V (one of the styles). Specifically, the font from there, maybe even take the parchment textures from there (although I contradict myself: it’s just blatant copying). And at the same time, definitely reduce the grass texture size. Nevertheless, I think we should keep the rank images. Reduce the size of max posts and bird ranks, as well as the base damage. In my opinion, there is no need to limit the number of Clans. The more, the better.
And still about emoticons :) 1. Here's a completely forgotten thread. 2. Quip's ones are also good.) 3. And I support "Favorite of the Gods";)

Well, hello to everyone who still remembers me here... because many people tend to forget...

I've read the entire thread, and I have to say, you're straying a bit from the main point. There's no point in discussing minor things like emoticons right now. They will be implemented as soon as the new engine and website design with its new structure are ready.

In my opinion, this is a global task, and it's more important right now. I understand that many users might not know what a website engine is, but updating it is what needs to be done at the moment.

This might be resolved soon, and then we can talk about new emoticons and special skins.
For now, we'll create a basic set: 1 good skin, 1 light skin for users with slower internet connections, and 1 set of standard emoticons.
This will allow us to get started. If everything goes well, new skins and emoticons will follow soon. But in general, we'll have to work hard because the website is currently in a state of disarray.

Initially, the website was supposed to be informative. Now, the information is incomplete, even for the first expansion pack, let alone the second. And other parts of the game are also lacking information. While we have a reference guide for the first game (thanks to VDV), there isn't one for the other games. And if you start searching the forum, you'll have to sift through a lot of irrelevant posts.

That's why we need to work together to sort through all the irrelevant posts, extract the necessary and useful information, and then organize it neatly in our library. That's when our website will become truly informative.

After the new technical structure is in place, along with the website's informativeness and relevance, we can then start working on other parts of the website.

First and foremost, this is the forum.
Currently, I think we can update the engine to version 3.7.2 PL1. We're currently using version 3.5.0, and although the difference between the versions isn't significant, it's worth noting that the engine hasn't been updated on the Heroes website for a long time.
This means that for the past 3 years, strategic security updates have been released, but we haven't installed them.
I hope everything goes smoothly with this.

Next, we need to organize Tournaments. Since we already have a team of organizers, I think this will be easier, but we'll need technical support in implementing this.
Specifically:
We need to decide on a ranking system that will be earned by participating in tournaments, or maybe it will just be a match between two people. There are many possibilities. The main thing is to create a ranking system and make it easy for users to participate in tournaments.

If all of this is implemented, then we can start thinking about additional features, such as new emoticons, skins, and all sorts of small improvements.

If you've read this post to the end, you're a true hero.

P.S. I apologize in advance for any errors. I typed this as I was thinking, so I didn't have time to proofread it because I'm currently in terrible conditions.

Initially, the site was supposed to be informational in nature. Now the information is incomplete even for the 1st expansion, let alone the 2nd... and other parts are also not filled in... if for the first Heroes we have a reference guide *(thanks to ВДВ for that), then for the other parts there is none. And if you start searching the forum, you'll have to dig through a ton of spam.

well, it's not all that bad -qwerty promised to help with the second Heroes, and a wonderful reference guide for the 3rd was made by fizmig...

we'll need to work together to sort through all the spam and extract the necessary and useful information

I think we should start with discussions about which unit is prettier:smile19: these topics annoy me simply by the fact of their existence:)

Anyway, greetings to everyone who still remembers me here... because many often start to forget...

hello, Hack ;)

Next, we should organize tournaments. Since we already have a team of organizers, I think this will be easier here. But technical support will be needed in terms of implementing this aspect.

the creator was planning to arrange a closed conference for all tournament organizers on HeroesWorld, but apparently he doesn't have time for that yet...

well, it's not all that bad - qwerty promised to help with Heroes II, and a wonderful guide for Heroes III has been made by fizmig...

Forgot about Heroes III.. The guide is wonderful. That's indisputable.
But for III, IV, and V, there's nothing like that.. something needs to be done... at least something similar.. there's enough information on the forum, it just needs to be presented competently.

I think we should start with discussions about which unit is prettier :smile19: these themes irritate me just by the fact of their existence :)

The thing is, by "sort through all the spam," I didn't mean to delete the current one. It's hard to get rid of it; it's been accumulating since the very founding of the forum.. however, when there's something to talk about, there's also a desire to visit. For example, not everyone is ready to talk about constructive topics, like you and I are. This has been shown more than once in strategic topics like this one.

By "sort through," I mean having to go through all the spam and copy or rephrase most of the information presented on the forum. This would be the equivalent of a guide.
i.e., to put it bluntly, we'll have to make guides for Heroes II, IV, and V at the very least. There might be some branches there as well.. because there are things like add-ons. or mods. There will be a lot of work, but who said it would be easy ))

By the way.. what about competing with heroes.ag.ru?? If we do what we've planned, we might very well overtake them ))

Of course, all this won't happen in a single day; we have the whole summer 0)) or maybe half of it already left for this. But I'm glad that there are already companions for this cause ))

hello, Hak ;)

And greetings to you...
I thought for a long time about why we are greeting each other in the middle of a topic )))

the creator was planning to arrange a closed conference of all tournament organizers on HeroesWorld, but apparently he doesn't have time for it yet...

The creator has a lot of things to do these days.. However, everyone can be understood. No one can force them here.
Anyway, as one person said
Nothing concrete. (c)


Now is a good time to start raising HeroesWorld.. I think you and I can do it... All that's left is to wait for the commander and start the work.

Perhaps the druid is the most beautiful of all.
Everything is clear about the chat; we can stop mentioning it – it will be implemented.
A new website will also be available very soon, so we need all constructive suggestions (a special thank you to those who prepare this in a Word document).

Let's get started!

The Druid is probably the most beautiful.
Everything is clear about the chat; we can stop mentioning it – it will be implemented.
The new website will also be ready very soon, so we need all constructive suggestions (a special thank you to those who can prepare it in a Word document).

Let's get started! :)

Tomorrow I will try to post the proposed website structure, which can be implemented on the new engine after it is approved. I think we should start with that.

Sincerely, VDV_forever

Very glad to meet you, Yegor. I suggest the *IP.Board* engine. I think it will be the most optimal. And everything else is just a matter of technique. ********************************** Regarding the forum as a whole. The thematic focus is good. We need to work more clearly on the management. Create the necessary subforums in a clearer and more systematic structure. And, of course, make the forum more colorful, within reasonable limits. Sincerely, Indigo.

I agree about IPB; it's a stable and convenient engine with almost no lag.
Hmm. You're talking about changing the website's design... I dare to suggest that this isn't very important. Personally, I visited it once and then just left it to gather dust. I only use the forum. And that's not surprising, because you can find news on Google, which everyone probably uses, and the same news appears on the forum. Of course, the forum is the HeroesWorld forum, i.e., the website's forum, but... "HW" usually refers to the first one. Perhaps it would be worth adding more information there – maps, and other things. Then the website wouldn't be an add-on to the forum, but the other way around, as I think the Creator intended.

But the forum definitely needs some work.
First of all, the sections need to be organized. Honestly, they're overwhelming. And why are the section titles duplicated in English, possibly for the sake of foreigners:), which clutters the page and doesn't make any sense.
The engine hasn't been decided on yet, of course, but if you keep this one, you need to, at least, establish clearer boundaries between the sections... because they're arbitrary, and again, everything blends together.
The main page is also very large and difficult to read. It would be better to have a few, 4-5, small sections here:
"Heroes 5 [the only link leading to sub-sections] => general, download, tournaments, ..., ....

might and magic => m&m1, m&m2, ..., ...
...
..."
and so on, that is, reduce the amount of this chaos. Besides, all this information is often unnecessary, because many people start their "forum day" with the control panel, not just me:)
and they only view topics from a specific section.
And a chat would be much more convenient, because it would load a minimum of unnecessary things.
It would be better to put something pleasant to the eye in that place – special icons, a background...
By the way, the styles aren't much different. In essence, only the color and the image at the top. But you could make it more beautiful – with an elven style, for example, the scrollbar could be entwined with vines, some trees, with a necropolis style – bones, some dark green gothic fonts, inferno – pentagrams, flaming letters, etc.
The very presence of different styles should encourage the user to experiment, to change styles, as is the case with the status castle, for example.
Yes, the amount of work is large, but we have the whole summer ahead of us? Or, rather, half of it? And we're talking about changes in general.

Now, regarding reputation...
I think BD (Battle Divinity) should be removed altogether. It's essentially useless to anyone.
Yes, many people do stupid and short-sighted things because of it. Like the Root.
Besides, every other person, not counting every first person, constantly tries to convince everyone that BD is completely unimportant to them, therefore, if it's turned off, they won't be upset.
What about clans? Aren't they not that far removed from clones that increase the owner's spirit, right? In topics concerning the relationships between clans, there is often terrible arguing, everyone throws remarks at each other, lowers the reputation of "enemies," and increases the reputation of clan members. In my opinion, this is completely immature behavior. It doesn't evoke anything but a contemptuous smirk.
So, I think abolishing reputation could solve many problems.
You've probably noticed that with the latest change to the spirit system, "congratulations" have lost popularity. What does this tell us?

Okay... I've rambled on, haven't I?:)
I suggest introducing a simple off-topic tag, which is used on many forums. Many, many topics are drowned in off-topic and meaningless, harsh flaming. This way, it would be possible to differentiate between informative and... meaningless parts of a message. There's also a psychological factor here – the very need to use the tag will limit the flood.

Moderation. Here, I suggest simply reducing the number of "ordinary" moderators, as many of them were chosen by the Creator simply by submitting an application, and many of them don't do anything.
And yes, it would be better to try to change the mentality of this role... it shouldn't "inspire awe and fear," or "wave its weighty rights in front of your nose"; it should symbolize painstaking, unrewarding, and difficult work to maintain order, which is its ultimate goal, as many people treat it as a privilege, not a duty.
And there shouldn't be bias, which I increasingly observe in the actions of our new moderators. No, I'm not talking about myself. Or, rather, not only?
...a resource council, each in their own section – is a good thing, even a great thing, but it should at least be observed not only by the "responsible" person, so that there is a broader view of things.

Yes, and please remove this terrible, caps-locked "FLOOD." It looks like the Creator created the test section just for the sake of it, giving it a working name, and then forgot to change it to something more euphonious.

Good day, I am interested in the development of HeroesWorld specifically as a gaming resource, so all my proposals are aimed precisely at this:
1. It needs to be ensured that HeroesWorld does not hang for several days at a time. We all remember when it hung for several days in a row, worked for half a day, and then hung again. This was a disaster, because it's one thing if a spammer doesn't write another piece of nonsense during that time, but quite another when tournament deadlines were missed and games were postponed due to the unavailability of necessary and important information.
2. An automated rating calculation system needs to be implemented, and this primarily concerns online games — this is truly important!
3. The long-suffering Grail system needs to be finally introduced to stimulate players to be more active in tournaments, since I am not the only one who has noticed a decline in player activity recently, caused by stagnation and a lack of progress.

Next, about the DB. This has already been discussed with the Creator. The current DB balancing percentage is very high, and because this function is now used much less frequently with the new DB system, automatic balancing mercilessly lowers the DB. Essentially, the longer a person stays on the forum, the more their DB drops, especially for owners of 4-5 feathered creatures.

Next, regarding the HeroesWorld team: I don't quite understand how there can be one person who will oversee the organization of all tournaments on HeroesWorld. Firstly, we have offline and online tournaments, and often a person who is a competent organizer of online tournaments is a complete zero in offline ones, and vice versa. The same applies to the versions of Heroes. It's clear that for each section, you can have an assistant responsible specifically for tournaments in certain Heroes versions, but how will the coordinator control the assistant if they don't understand the specific version of Heroes? Finding a person who is equally well-versed in all Heroes, understands the specifics of organizing tournaments, and can gauge the mood of the forum members to understand which competition is most relevant for them at the moment is difficult. And actually, why is this controller needed at all if the assistants will be specialists in their fields?
Summary on this point:
For tournaments, you need not one person, but 10 positions (Heroes 1 offline, online; Heroes 2 offline, online; ... and so on). These people alone will have the right to conduct official tournaments; all others will be fun tournaments. If you think 10 coordinators is a lot, then let them not be called coordinators, but, for example, tournament curator *followed by tournament version*. If, for instance, a large-scale event like the WC, or the inter-Russian tournament with HeroesPortal that is currently brewing, is planned, then a coordination council of curators is convened where they decide what's what.

Also, about the library: I would add a map section there. As it currently exists as a separate topic, that is good, but only for posting maps. Verified maps should be sent to a special section (probably better for it to be in the files). This way, we will attract new users, and it's generally the right thing to do.
So, we won't even talk about the chat...

Well, I think that's all from me. I won't talk about visual enhancements and emoticons; IMHO, that's a secondary concern.
I understand that it's impossible to delve into everything, understand all the aspects, and account for everything all at once, so if anything, ping me on ICQ or write to me in PM, and I'll help however I can.

Hello, I'm here as a rating master ;)
My thoughts are focused on one thing: our resource should develop as a gaming platform, meaning I'm not against completely eliminating the chat forum (or separating it from the gaming section).
The biggest weakness is the lack of strong players in tournaments. I have no idea how to fix this. Perhaps only real monetary prizes would help, but I wouldn't want that.
Regarding systematization, we need to monitor it daily to prevent people from messing things up. We need people to do this.
That's about the internal organization.

Now, about usability and graphics quality – I don't think this is the main issue. We should only upgrade this after we've fixed everything internally.

P.S. And please restore my moderator rights! I can't update the rating!

The most important weak point is the shortage of strong players in tournaments. I have no idea how to fix this. Probably only real cash prizes would save the situation, which I’d rather avoid.

Cash prizes won’t solve anything. Been there, done that. On the contrary, they will scare off some strong players who refuse to play for money on principle. What’s needed is a comprehensive set of measures, including: clear, understandable rules; competent hosts; interesting maps; diverse tournaments; good advertising, including external promotion. And the administration’s policy as well. Setting up 10 admins on a gaming resource, of whom only 1 will be in charge of tournaments while the rest handle the “cultural-social” aspects :smile11: Is the administration’s policy really aimed at turning HeroesWorld into a “socio-cultural” venue? And Adelaide is absolutely right—first you need to sort out tournaments as the main component of the resource, and only then think about smileys, design, and other secondary things.