User contributions to the development of HeroesWorld. — Suggestions and improvements.

Егор

18 years ago

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This topic has probably been raised a thousand times. I'll bring it up again, for the last time. HW has been stagnating lately after a good start, which is definitely not something to be happy about. I'll skip the demagoguery and say right away what is planned:

1) Redesign the website itself; its structure will likely change (this is an open question – I would like to hear suggestions).
2) Improve the forum; I think not only I notice the constant slowdowns. We may solve this issue at the hardware level.
3) We will develop minor features that our community wants; there are opportunities for this (this is an open question – I would like to hear suggestions; we will save this item for last and the most interesting).
4) We will revise the management system.

Regarding the last point, I think it would be reasonable to select a small group of the most dedicated people and give them the authority to manage the project as a council – we will try to get rid of the anarcho-tyrannical regime. :)

So, here are the questions on the agenda:
1) What should the new look of the website be?
2) What needs to be removed/added to the forum? Could we change the forum engine? What about the reputation system – is it needed in its current form, or should it be preserved?

And most importantly:
1) Who will be on the HW management council?

Since the moderators and coordinators have changed more than a hundred times in the past two years, I don't even know some of them – let's get acquainted; you can write to me on ICQ – 204340899 or in PM – I plan to be here now. :)

Visiteur

18 years ago

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Egor;185248

This topic has probably been raised a thousand times. I'll bring it up again, for the last time. HW has been stagnating lately after a good start, which is definitely not something to be happy about. I'll skip the demagoguery and say right away what is planned:

Do you think they will do it? Just because of your whim? No. When you're in charge, do whatever your heart desires:p

Егор

18 years ago

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Do you think they will do it? Just because of your whim? No, when you are in charge, do whatever your heart desires.

I think so :) Technical administrator. Nice to meet you :)

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Visiteur

18 years ago

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Alright, let's get acquainted.

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VDV_forever

18 years ago

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Dear forum members, please pay close attention to this topic!

Yegor's words are not unfounded, and the fact that he proposes to implement and discuss with all interested parties the further development of the portal, as well as its problems, indicates that the Administration is very interested in promoting our site in terms of updating, restructuring, and improving the project as a whole!

In this regard, I ask everyone: please provide more complete and constructive suggestions and less irrelevant chatter.

Sincerely, VDV_forever

XEL

18 years ago

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The most important thing to do is to reduce the minimum character count per post to 30.

XEL

18 years ago

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2Dirty Player: okay, within 10 characters :)

Егор

18 years ago

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The most important thing to do is to reduce the minimum character count per post to 30.

We have more interesting things happening here :) But 30 characters will turn into 10. Definitely :)

Amko

18 years ago

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Hello!

Egor;185248

So, here are the questions on the agenda:
1) What should the new look of the website be?
2) What needs to be removed/added to the forum? Could it change its engine? What should be done with the reputation system – is it needed in its current form, or should it be preserved?

1) I think it's too bright now; it would be better to design it in the style of either the original Heroes 5 or the latest expansion, Tribes of the East. 2) It would be nice to update the engine. I recently saw the new forums of Nival Interactive and Nival Online – I was drooling:)

Regarding reputation – that's a separate topic. The database system is quite interesting and rare, but also too harsh, in my opinion. With a database score above ~1200, it's quite difficult for many to maintain a constant reputation level, let alone increase it. And it's difficult for newcomers as well: in order to give positive ratings, they need 25 posts and reputation points. 25 posts is normal, but getting 25 reputation points is not that easy if they don't participate in the internal life of the portal/aren't game geniuses. All of this, in my opinion, is not good.

XEL;185256

The most important thing to do is to remove the minimum post length of 30 characters.

There's already a limit of 10 characters.

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XEL;185257

2Dirty Player: well, okay, 10 characters :)

10 is the best, there's no need to make it smaller.

Егор

18 years ago

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1) I think it's too bright now; it would be better to design it in the style of either the original Heroes 5 or the latest expansion, Tribes of the East.

Then, I think it would be reasonable to stick to the original version?

2) It would be nice to update the engine. I recently saw the new forums of Nival Interactive and Nival Online – it made my mouth water.

And more specifically? :) It would be interesting to know – what and how needs to be done. Step by step :)

The point about reputation is correct. And the fact that it's difficult for newcomers is as it should be :) For a number of reasons, including authority, familiarity, and security (in terms of preventing cheating).

If there is a limit of 10 characters, then it will remain that way.
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Now, regarding the changes.

The HeroesWorld council, which we will gather soon, will be named "HeroesWorld Team" – with its own privileges for the team.

The "HeroesWorld Team" will include: VDV_Forever (as the most significant participant – 3 votes), 9 people from the coordinating team – to make decisions by voting (more on them below). I will play the role of a tiebreaker if an ambiguous situation arises when making a decision.

The council itself consists of nine people from different fields, truly professionals tested by time, because each point is very complex (therefore, in addition to knowledge, organizational skills are also needed).

And so, 9 people:

1) News content (news, reviews, information)
2) Informational and reference content (descriptions, library)
3) Maintaining the forum in an up-to-date state (managing the entire forum and its moderators)
4) Organizing tournaments (and running them, coming up with prizes)
5) Developing related gaming projects (the forum features other games, plus there is an opportunity to develop other sites, such as disciples3.net and warcraft3.in in the past)
6) Developing inter-clan relations (it is necessary to limit the number of clans to make life more interesting)
7) Cultural and social life (the entire section of off-topic discussions, meetings, etc., in other words, cultural organization)
8) Strategic development (idea generator)
9) Technical (specialists familiar with web programming) – perhaps the most difficult point.

So far, there are 4 volunteers. Therefore, we would like to see 5 more – and a new life will begin on our portal!

Join in, suggest ideas, make up your minds!

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VDV_forever

18 years ago

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Night Nazgul;185260

It’s also difficult for newcomers: to be able to post positively, they need 25 posts and reputation points. 25 posts is reasonable, but getting 25 reputation points isn’t that easy if they don’t participate in the internal life of the portal or aren’t gaming geniuses. All of this, in my opinion, is not a good thing.

This was done deliberately to reduce spam on the forum, as well as to prevent unfavorable situations from desperate and resentful users with negative, neutral, or insufficient reputation, and finally, to avoid cases where users created duplicates that increased the reputation of their clone.

General ZeT

18 years ago

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1) I think it's too bright right now; it would be better to style it in the style of either the original Heroes 5 or the latest expansion, Tribes of the East.

No need for that; it's worth considering those who don't like Heroes 5. :)

2) Informational content (descriptions, library).

That's good, but... I think one person isn't enough because is there really someone who knows everything about all the games? It would be better to involve several people or assign assistants to one person in the area where their knowledge is weakest.

The database system is quite interesting and rare, but also too rigid, in my opinion. With a database score above ~1200, it's quite difficult for many to maintain a constant reputation level, let alone increase it. And it's difficult for newcomers too: to be able to gain reputation, they need 25 posts and reputation points. 25 posts is normal, but getting 25 reputation points isn't that easy if they don't participate in the internal life of the portal or aren't gaming geniuses. All of this, in my opinion, is not good.

This database (reputation) system is standard for forums like HeroesWorld. Our esteemed Creator changed it, and we got used to calling it the old database system. And now he has returned to the initial system, in which it is indeed difficult to maintain the number of "points."

6) Development of inter-clan relations (it is necessary to limit the number of clans to make life more interesting).

I still don't understand how limiting the number of clans can make inter-clan life more interesting; it's like turning a multi-party country into a two-party country or even allowing only one party. It's simply necessary to make the requirements for the clan leader even stricter.

and also - do you think that posts #2, 3, 4, 6, 7, and 8 are meaningless and don't bring any benefit?

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Amko

18 years ago

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Yegor;185269

Then, I think it would be reasonable to do it within the original version?

I agree.

And more specifically? :) It would be interesting to know - what and how needs to be done. Step by step :)

Well, for starters, a simple update. vBulletin 3.5.0 is outdated; there's, for example, 3.7.2. Although I'm not very knowledgeable about this. :)
It is simply necessary to make the pages lighter. I use high-speed DSL, but even I feel the lag. And there are still many modem users in Russia; what about them? I suggest removing the status images and replacing them with text names of ranks, possibly even not directly related to the races.
I also suggest reducing the required number of posts to reach level 14. Because 7k is unrealistic; no one on the forum has ever had a counter close to that number, and still doesn't.
And many will support me, and if not me, then someone else will - bring back the chat!:D

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General ZeT;185279

But there's no need for that; we should also consider those who don't like Heroes 5.

But the Heroes 5 style is already in place, only for some reason it's from the HoF add-on.

Егор

18 years ago

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It would also be nice to have emoticons for each faction: humans, elves, warlocks, mages, demons, necromancers, orcs, gnomes, and also swamp creatures, nagas, and elementals.

And will you prepare images for such emoticons?

Visiteur

18 years ago

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What do you think about the idea of using emoticons? I came up with something else. So, a user wants to register. They register, and immediately a mandatory question appears: Favorite faction. They choose their favorite faction, and when they send a message, their profile shows their favorite faction. They can only choose one, and therefore, we can send them special emoticons for their faction.

What do you think?:smile12: :smile39:

P.S. This can also be done for already registered users.

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