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Offline SandroXXL
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Radeon 9200 can handle S.T.A.L.K.E.R. And even the 5200FX can handle it, and GeForce5200FX = Radeon9200 (approximately), so what?
GeForce 7600GS is not a seventh-generation video card at all, but rather some kind of budget product. It's more like the same 5200, only with increased memory. And, by the way, just because a video card has a PCI-E interface doesn't mean that everything will function perfectly on it. Moreover, it won't provide more performance than what the manufacturer intended, but the interface itself allows you to use more powerful devices.
And also, WHY are we bringing up this nonsense again? This is better... not IMHO, this is better! No, this... Everyone uses what they want. I always use Nvidia, my brother uses Radeon, so what? Should we gather and argue until we're hoarse about which is better?
By the way, regarding Sunrise. All of their branches have closed in Voronezh, and judging by the websites, the company is not doing very well right now. http://www.samara.sunrise.ru/?mode=pg&id=17414
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I didn't want to argue and prove the superiority of Radeon...
I just think that Nvidia isn't any better, especially if you're talking about cheaper cards.
Someone mentioned that Nvidia has better game optimization - that's not true (I brought up the 9200 for a reason - it's a couple of years older than the 7300gs, and the yellow sky in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. can only be fixed in one way - by replacing the card with a Radeon). And in general, if this is a debate about "what's better," I wanted to say that Nvidia isn't better than Radeon in any way - whether to recommend it or not is up to each person, but answer me, Sandro: if it weren't for your personal opinion, would you have posted here?:D
В. Уэйтс©
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

временно ушел с форума, переодически заглядываю. кому нужен пишите в скайп ewgeniy1985. в аське 384385000 очень редко.
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Offline SandroXXL
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You are right, most likely I would have just walked by. It's not a problem to get the price lists, especially since they will differ for different cities.
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Offline Lux in tenebris
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SandroXXL;183811
You're right, most likely I would have just walked by. Getting price lists isn't a problem, especially since they will differ for different cities.

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And here is where it all began, my friends.
Getting a price list isn't a problem for anyone. But choosing the right thing from it is a problem for many. It's no secret that many companies *cheat* their customers. They lure them in with a *hook* (economic trickery). And the customer keeps paying them money even after the purchase. Yes, there are 100 tricks. Measure seven times, cut once.
Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.
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Offline Hero In
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You try disassembling your computer and then putting it back together =) That's how you learn =) In reality, it's all very simple there =) You just need practice =) When I was disassembling my first 386, I even redrew in a notebook what and where was attached =)))
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My very long messages are useless)
I will create separate topics, Major Whirlwind.
There is a limit to the length of a post. Unfortunately, it is very small on the forum.... And also, additional replies are immediately attached. That's why the length is unreal.
I would even say that there is no point in long messages at all... Especially in your case, there are too many words... and it's annoying to scroll through if it's not interesting... In my opinion, news should be formulated in the most concise, but informative way, and then, if a person is interested in it, he can follow the link and already find out the details and nuances...
Кто попробовал слезы мака, тот будет плакать всю жизнь...



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Offline Lux in tenebris
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Dear Hero In, keep going; there is a lot of meaning in your words and messages. Night Nazgul, it's a pity that you won't be able to assemble it yourself. Maybe one of your friends could help? If not, then take their build. With your order. Regarding DDR 3, I think you understand. We'll take DDR 2. *This is about the selection for you, regarding the system unit.*
Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.
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Thanks to everyone for the advice! :) For now, I've decided to refrain from a full upgrade (due to financial difficulties; I had to buy a new mobile phone because the old one completely broke down), and I'll just get a new CPU, video card, case, and hard drive. And I've already decided on everything except the video card. I have enough money for any of these cards, but I'd like to hear your opinion:)
Candidates:

No. 1: http://www.oldi.ru/catalog/show.php?idx=14318&cod=15107&pgf=%2Fcatalog%2Findex.php%3Fmgrp%3D482%26nch%3D0%26idf%3D1%26str%3D8800%26sort_by%3D1

No. 2: http://www.oldi.ru/catalog/show.php?idx=20447&cod=107156&pgf=%2Fcatalog%2Findex.php%3Fmgrp%3D482%26nch%3D0%26idf%3D1%26str%3D8800%26sort_by%3D1

No. 3: http://www.oldi.ru/catalog/show.php?idx=22122&cod=110875&pgf=%2Fcatalog%2Findex.php%3Fmgrp%3D482%26nch%3D0%26idf%3D1%26str%3D8800%26sort_by%3D1
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Offline Hero In
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The 8800 GTX is too expensive... the price/performance ratio is better with the 8800 GT, and the gap between the two cards (8800 GT and 8800 GTS) is too small to consider it significant...

I can share a link to benchmarks for each card in games. =)
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Offline Lux in tenebris
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Night Nazgul, good choice)

Asustek EN8800GTX HTDP [15107] - the most expensive = 9786.00 rubles



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Or maybe this one, at Sunrise.

512Mb PCI-E GeForce 9800GTX, ASUS EN9800GTX/HTDP, TV, 2DVI, retail

Chip
Chip Manufacturer nVidia
Chip Name GeForce 9800GTX [G92]
Chip Frequency 675MHz
RAMDAC 400MHz
Interface
Bus PCI Express x16
Support for parallel connection of video cards SLI
Memory
Built-in memory size 512Mb
Memory type DDR3 [16M*32 DDR3]
Memory frequency 1688MHz
Memory bus width 256 bits
Video characteristics
Maximum resolution 2560x1600
Connectors
DVI 2 pcs.
HDCP compatibility +
TV output + [S-Video]
HDTV support +



9750.0 rubles (Currently in stock)
Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.
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Offline Lux in tenebris
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Where will it go? It will go.
Asus P5VD2-MX SE s775 P4M890 (FSB1066/800/533Mhz/2xDDR2-533/2xATA/2xSATA/PCI-E x16/PCI-E x1/Int. VGA/2xPCI/6-ch Sound/Lan/mATX)

P5VD2-MX



PCI-E x16

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CPU Socket Socket 775
Northbridge VIA P4M890
Southbridge VIA VT8237A
Northbridge Cooling Heatsink
Southbridge Cooling -
VRM Cooling -
Integrated Video VIA UniChrome Pro
Connectors on the board
PCI 2
PCI Express x4 -
PCI Express x1 1
Graphics Interface PCI-E x16
DIMM 2xDDR2
IDE (Parallel ATA) (chipset/additional controller) 2/-
Serial ATA (chipset/additional controller) 2/1
Main Power Connectors 24+4
Additional Power -
FAN 2
S/PDIF +
Additional Chips
Audio Codec ADI AD1986A
Ethernet Realtek RTL8201CL PHY (10/100)
SATA JMicron JMB 363 PCI-E
PATA -
IEEE 1394 (FireWire) -
Connectors on the rear panel
LAN 1
e-SATA 1
Audio 3
S/PDIF-Out (Coaxial/Optical) -/-
Peripherals (on the rear panel/on the board/bracket included)
USB 4/2 (4 ports)/-
IEEE 1394 (FireWire) -/-/-
COM -/1/-
Game/MIDI -/-/-
LPT 1
Included Cables
IDE 1 (ATA100)
SATA interface/power, devices 1/1
Form Factor microATX, 235 x 218 mm
Other D-sub output for monitor on the rear panel. The integrated JMicron controller and the PCI-E x1 slot cannot be used simultaneously.
CPU and platform – tests on ITC.ua
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Yes, since it has integrated video, disable it in the BIOS after connecting it.
Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.
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Offline Amko
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Does my motherboard have integrated video? :O It's been sitting here for two years, I didn't know.

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P.S. It's cheaper at Oldi.
http://www.oldi.ru/catalog/show.php?idx=21179&cod=108783&pgf=%2Fcatalog%2Findex.php%3Fmgrp%3D482%26nch%3D0%26idf%3D1%26str%3D9800%26sort_by%3D1
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According to information from an anonymous source within the graphics card manufacturers, NVIDIA is planning to further reduce the price of its flagship GeForce GTX 280 in the near future. Currently, the new product can be purchased for $700-800, despite the recommended price of $650 (for the US market). Rumor has it that the price will be reduced to a more competitive level of $500 (12,000-13,000 rubles). However, a larger price cut is unlikely, as unconfirmed information suggests that each GT200 unit costs NVIDIA more than $100 to produce, which is very expensive. The company's partners are unlikely to be pleased with such significant price reductions. It is also unknown whether the changes will affect the more affordable GeForce GTX 260 model.
An interesting move by Nvidia. Although, in this situation, they simply have no other choice!
Based on this article:
The GT200 graphics chip is causing NVIDIA a headache – who knew that cards based on ATI RV770 would be so good? According to information from TG Daily, the Californians are gathering their strength. As early as the end of this year or the beginning of next year, a flagship core with support for DirectX 10.1, GDDR5 memory, and performance 1.5-2 times higher than GT200 may appear on the market. That will be something. Notebooks will receive DirectX 10.1-compatible solutions in the spring of 2009. Currently, NVIDIA has a very complex and expensive microarchitecture that is unable to compete with ATI Radeon HD 4800. It can be assumed that the Californians' response should be overwhelming.
Who would have expected that from the red and white company? When I read it, I almost drooled!
Information taken from the website http://www.igromania.ru


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Offline Майор Вихрь
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NVIDIA has a very complex and expensive microarchitecture that is unable to compete with the ATI Radeon HD 4800.
The tests don't confirm this yet. The GTX 280 remains the most powerful video card. And it can still be installed in a 3-way SLI configuration... :)

However, for the first time in a while, ATI has achieved very significant successes. Especially considering that the Radeon 4870 performs similarly to the GTX 260 in tests. And the 4850 easily competes with the GeForce 9800 GTX, and in both cases, the Radeon cards are cheaper! Nazg, take a look at these video cards. In my opinion, these are quite optimal solutions if you are not planning to play at high resolutions (performance starts to drop significantly above 1680x1050).
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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