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"The Mystery of the Mage's Treasury"



Tournament Rules:
1. To participate in the off-line HoMM 5 tournament "The Mystery of the Mage's Treasury" you must register on our website and also leave an application in this thread.

2. The tournament is held on the Russian version of Heroes 5 from 1C, game version 3.0. The save was generated on the Russian version 3.0.

3. The goal of the game is to Dig up the Tear of Asha and build a unique structure in the starting Castle as quickly as possible; the result will be evaluated by the number of days.
Note: Opening the puzzle map is not necessary, i.e., you may dig for the tear blindly.
If several players have an equal number of days, the best will be determined by the sum of primary skills (Attack, Defense, Spellpower, Knowledge) TAKING INTO ACCOUNT EQUIPPED ARTIFACTS; if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.

4. In the tournament, the following are prohibited:

a) Using cheats, codes, mods, as well as additional programs that can change the game structure in a "clean" playthrough.

b) Restarting or any other modification of the initial save is prohibited.

c) Discussion of the tournament on the forum during its duration is FORBIDDEN!!!(Players who violate this rule are automatically disqualified from playing the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

d) Explicit spam, off-topic, flaming, etc. are prohibited in the thread. For violating this rule:
1st time – BD reduction.
2nd time – warnings issued on the profile.
3rd time – disqualification
Note: exceptions are possible.

e) Forbidden spell: "Astral Gate".

f) Forbidden heroes: Kaspar, Vlad, Deleb, Hafiz, Nura, Krag, Argath, Haggash, Telsek.

5. To start the game, you must download 2 archives: one contains the map, the other the save. Place the save in the directory My Documents\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V — Tribes of the East\Profiles\Your Profile\Saves. Place the map in the Maps directory in the game's root folder. Launch the game and then Single Game-->Load.

6. The player is obliged to save intermediate saves for each game day during the tournament playthrough. Also, make replays of EVERY battle.
Intermediate saves/replays may be requested by the tournament host to verify the fairness of the playthrough. If a player is found to have used cheat codes, as well as errors or game features explicitly prohibited by the rules, the player will be immediately disqualified from the tournament.

7. Along with the final save, players MUST submit battle replays against:
1. Phoenixes
2. Elementals
3. Ghosts

Note: this does not mean you should not make replays of battles with other monsters.

8. Send the final save to the email address prizrak_off_line@list.ru. The submitted save must contain your number in the participant table and your HeroesWorld nickname. Example: 1__Prizrak_.sav.
In the email itself, state your forum nickname, the number of days in which the map was completed, the hero's statistics (not counting morale and luck), and the amount of mercury.


9. The tournament starts on June 1st and will last until June 20th (inclusive). The results will be announced on June 26th, 2008.


PS. Don't forget to download the file "ReadMe.txt" and read it before starting the playthrough.

The tournament is OFFICIAL

Tournament named after John Van Caneghem
Participants of the 5th Stage

1_Prizrak_
2Mayor Whirlwind
3T@mar@
4Neo122007
5LֆK(jester)
6dim013
7Dracon Mallasa
8ValgallaWolf
9absd
10kj1313
11Primus
12Nimizida
13Hero In
14wolf64
15Leolopus
16Andrey44_44
17Kitsune
18Atlant
19asassin
20Psixxx
21Benedictor
22Chudo_udo aka Saint_Lider
23Eric Wynn
24Saen
25DUN_KAN
26LotR
27Mr. M
28Desperance
29Zehir2008
30Warmonger
31Alexxxok
32NEREWAR
33net
34Krosh
35Fireball

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ReadMe



FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions.

1. What are replays?
Replays are recordings of the battles you have fought.
You can do it like this: after a battle, a window with losses pops up. In the lower left corner, there is a button - SAVE. Click on it and enter a name. Then save again.
2. How do I submit the RESULT?
Read paragraph "8".
3. You can't reload, correct?
You must not press the RESTART button. If you want to play the tournament again, you will need to load the initial save. It can be downloaded above.
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What skills did you develop? Judging by the stats, it's Learning.
FIREBALL, and this time, did you start buying artifacts in the shop???
I developed Learning (up to Expert + TO). I specialized in wyverns. To get 64 parameters, you only need to buy the Axe, which is also available in the original game. I only changed the very end: I killed the riders (I was just a little short of the next level at the end), picked up the Breastplate +2sp, got TO, and slightly changed the skill development. As a result, I gained +2 levels, and Learning went from Basic to Expert. If I had started changing the walkthrough earlier, instead of the Axe, I could have bought Armor. After deducting the Breastplate, it would have been 66 parameters; if I had enough money for everything (but in my version, I think this is unlikely), it would have been 70. But, as you know, history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood.

2Lu41k
And why is that? There was no one to inspire heroic deeds: no old friends-rivals in tournaments, no beautiful ladies... But now they have appeared and are increasing the BD.
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FIREBOL, what level did you end up with, considering the Dark Revelation (level 23)?
I also had a build with experience-based learning and Tactics, but at the expense of Battle, and since I got stuck in the first week, I didn't level up enough, so I couldn't keep up with the education.
Basically, Battle was only needed for the fight with the elementals.
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Please accept my congratulations! I take my hat off to the winners (12 days is incredibly impressive).
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FIREBALL, what level did you end up with, considering the Dark Revelation (level 23)?
I also had a build with experience-based learning and Tactics, but at the expense of Defense, and since I got stuck in the first week, I didn't level up enough, so I couldn't keep up with the education.
Basically, Defense was only needed for the battle with the elementals.
The level was only 21, but with Knowledge and Endurance, since Defense wasn't needed. I didn't level up too much, and immediately ran. For example, in a 10-day playthrough to get the Tear, by the end of day 7, I was killing orcish warriors near the phoenixes. You can't really level up much here, even with Education.
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Congratulations to wolf64!!! Well done! A pleasure to watch. It's a pity things turned out that way with Dima. It would have been even better. By tradition, the 5th stage of Van Caningham's tournament is won by a vampire!:) Hooray, hooray, hooray!:)
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(Leave 5 units of goblins, each with one member, and the 6th unit – a single centaur – with Goshak). The centaur is needed so that, with the help of reinforcements, the hero can attack several times. Goshak defeats the Cavern Dwellers (1 goblin remains) and, without picking up anything, moves to the right towards the Necropolis. I don't quite understand; can someone explain how, with 5 goblins and 1 centaur, you can defeat about 8-9 Cavern Dwellers (aren't they level 6 demons?) They cast Destruction while I'm running around with the goblins. Goshak manages to attack a few times, and the ballista fires, but it's clearly not enough. 2wolf64, please write down the battle tactics:smile45: Added after 10 minutes Also, please decipher all the abbreviations and clarify the names of some monsters, for example: Orcish Warriors – is this an upgrade? (not Warlords)
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Benedictor;182937
(Leave 5 units of goblins, each with 1 unit, and the 6th unit – a lone centaur – with Goshaku). The centaur is needed so that, with the help of reinforcements, the hero can attack several times.
Goshaku defeats the Cavern Dwellers (1 goblin remains) and, without picking up anything, moves to the right towards the Necropolis.
I don't quite understand, can someone explain how, with 5 goblins and 1 centaur, you can defeat about 8-9 Cavern Dwellers (aren't they level 6 demons?). They cast Destruction while I'm running around with goblins; Goshaku manages to attack a few times, and the ballista, but that's clearly not enough.
2wolf 64, write down the battle tactic:smile45:
I have my computer at home, but there should be this replay – link http://slil.ru/25930390
Quote - Are Orcish Warriors an upgrade? (not Warlords)
Orcish Warriors can be upgraded – and then you can choose to buy either Orcish Warriors or Warlords (your choice; personally, I prefer Orcish Warriors – they are better when 1 or 2 Blood Magic units are present).
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how do I view the save file?

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where should I put it, or what program should I use to open it?
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How do I enable it so it displays? There doesn't seem to be anything related to it in the game's menu.
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how do I enable it so it shows up? I don't see anything related to it in the game menu.
In the options, if I'm not mistaken... Let Dim and Tieru contact me (via ICQ or PM), and we'll discuss it.
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By the way, I also played through the map with Goshak. I also defeated the Djinns and picked up the Ring of Machine Affinity. In general, my tent healed 6 Shamans! I think that's pretty cool. + I took Shak Karukata and gave him all the Orcish fighters; he visited the statues with spells, leveled up to protect all of us, and received a good reinforcement of goblins. Then I gave the entire army to Goshak, and while he was making his way to the Phoenixes, I managed to level up his Zone of Vitality. In general, I had about 150 or even more goblins as a bonus. By the way, leveling up the Ballista is a great idea on this map, but I couldn't do it (it didn't work out).
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Andrey44_44;182909
Well done! Congratulations to wolf64 and Fireball on their well-deserved victory. And kj1313 also did a great job, taking third place, not far behind the winners.

Thanks... I was actually aiming to complete it in 11 turns, but I made a couple of mistakes:
1. I forgot to pick up the Boots at the beginning, and got them too late.
2. I forgot that you can place a Grail on level 15 of the city.

That's why the result was like that....

Unlike the winner, I played as a Necromancer, Naadir.
If anyone is interested, I can upload the replays....
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kj1313;183008
Thanks... I was generally trying to complete it on difficulty 11, but I made a couple of mistakes:
1. I forgot to take the Boots of Swiftness at the beginning, I took them too late.
2. I forgot that you can install the Grail on level 15 of the city.
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On what day did you get the Boots of Swiftness, and when did you dig up the Tear? P.S. I personally enjoyed the battle with the Death Messengers and Banshees (more than 50 of them) with a hero who seemed to be level 10. The main troops seemed to be around 50 Ogres and 12 Shamans, plus Goblins. Unfortunately, I rejected this walkthrough because I went in the wrong direction - through the teleporter near the city, which was guarded by Griffins.
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I tried to follow wolf64's walkthrough for the Nightstalker campaign. On day 2, I didn't have enough movement points to collect the gold sacks, and I'm not very good at playing with small armies, so the gargoyles defeated me. On day 3, the same thing happened. Can anyone recommend a good tutorial for playing with 5 heroes, where I can learn how to fight effectively?

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