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"The Mystery of the Mage's Treasury"



Tournament Rules:
1. To participate in the off-line HoMM 5 tournament "The Mystery of the Mage's Treasury" you must register on our website and also leave an application in this thread.

2. The tournament is held on the Russian version of Heroes 5 from 1C, game version 3.0. The save was generated on the Russian version 3.0.

3. The goal of the game is to Dig up the Tear of Asha and build a unique structure in the starting Castle as quickly as possible; the result will be evaluated by the number of days.
Note: Opening the puzzle map is not necessary, i.e., you may dig for the tear blindly.
If several players have an equal number of days, the best will be determined by the sum of primary skills (Attack, Defense, Spellpower, Knowledge) TAKING INTO ACCOUNT EQUIPPED ARTIFACTS; if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.

4. In the tournament, the following are prohibited:

a) Using cheats, codes, mods, as well as additional programs that can change the game structure in a "clean" playthrough.

b) Restarting or any other modification of the initial save is prohibited.

c) Discussion of the tournament on the forum during its duration is FORBIDDEN!!!(Players who violate this rule are automatically disqualified from playing the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

d) Explicit spam, off-topic, flaming, etc. are prohibited in the thread. For violating this rule:
1st time – BD reduction.
2nd time – warnings issued on the profile.
3rd time – disqualification
Note: exceptions are possible.

e) Forbidden spell: "Astral Gate".

f) Forbidden heroes: Kaspar, Vlad, Deleb, Hafiz, Nura, Krag, Argath, Haggash, Telsek.

5. To start the game, you must download 2 archives: one contains the map, the other the save. Place the save in the directory My Documents\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V — Tribes of the East\Profiles\Your Profile\Saves. Place the map in the Maps directory in the game's root folder. Launch the game and then Single Game-->Load.

6. The player is obliged to save intermediate saves for each game day during the tournament playthrough. Also, make replays of EVERY battle.
Intermediate saves/replays may be requested by the tournament host to verify the fairness of the playthrough. If a player is found to have used cheat codes, as well as errors or game features explicitly prohibited by the rules, the player will be immediately disqualified from the tournament.

7. Along with the final save, players MUST submit battle replays against:
1. Phoenixes
2. Elementals
3. Ghosts

Note: this does not mean you should not make replays of battles with other monsters.

8. Send the final save to the email address prizrak_off_line@list.ru. The submitted save must contain your number in the participant table and your HeroesWorld nickname. Example: 1__Prizrak_.sav.
In the email itself, state your forum nickname, the number of days in which the map was completed, the hero's statistics (not counting morale and luck), and the amount of mercury.


9. The tournament starts on June 1st and will last until June 20th (inclusive). The results will be announced on June 26th, 2008.


PS. Don't forget to download the file "ReadMe.txt" and read it before starting the playthrough.

The tournament is OFFICIAL

Tournament named after John Van Caneghem
Participants of the 5th Stage

1_Prizrak_
2Mayor Whirlwind
3T@mar@
4Neo122007
5LֆK(jester)
6dim013
7Dracon Mallasa
8ValgallaWolf
9absd
10kj1313
11Primus
12Nimizida
13Hero In
14wolf64
15Leolopus
16Andrey44_44
17Kitsune
18Atlant
19asassin
20Psixxx
21Benedictor
22Chudo_udo aka Saint_Lider
23Eric Wynn
24Saen
25DUN_KAN
26LotR
27Mr. M
28Desperance
29Zehir2008
30Warmonger
31Alexxxok
32NEREWAR
33net
34Krosh
35Fireball

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ReadMe



FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions.

1. What are replays?
Replays are recordings of the battles you have fought.
You can do it like this: after a battle, a window with losses pops up. In the lower left corner, there is a button - SAVE. Click on it and enter a name. Then save again.
2. How do I submit the RESULT?
Read paragraph "8".
3. You can't reload, correct?
You must not press the RESTART button. If you want to play the tournament again, you will need to load the initial save. It can be downloaded above.
:smile02:Клан "Lost Heroes" - Заместитель лидера:smile02:
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Dear Prizrak, please add me to the list of tournament participants. I sent the save file under number 35; I am waiting for confirmation.
The save file has been received...

Result
12 save files. We will check them:)

And one more request... The discussion of the tournament will begin today at 4:00 PM, due to the absence of one save file.

Sincerely.
:smile02:Клан "Lost Heroes" - Заместитель лидера:smile02:
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Since the tournament is now officially over, I think we can start discussing it. Personally, I played the standard orc faction, which seemed like the most viable option to me, as it would have been difficult to find good spells for the necromancers. I could have tried playing as the Elves, but I didn't find a fort on the hill, and without it, completing this map would have been very difficult. Also, the single spell, Chain Lightning, which can be learned from the shamans, is not enough for a successful playthrough, but that's just my opinion on this map. I won't reveal the number of days it took me, as it would make the table less interesting. As soon as Ghost posts the table, I'll tell you how I completed it.
Чую время пришло и захлопнулась дверь
Ангел пропел и полопалась кожа...
Мы выпили жизнь, но не стали мудрей,
Мы прожили смерть, но не стали моложе...

Агата Кристи
Ты должен быть сильным,
Ты должен уметь сказать: Руки прочь, прочь от меня,
Ты должен быть сильным, иначе зачем тебе быть?!

КИНО
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Ghost, I won't be able to send you the save file – I'm having some issues. So, please remove me from the tournament.
Убей в себе государство...
Е.Летов царство ему небесное...

Ибо во многой мудрости много печали,умножающий познание умножает скобь...
Царь Соломон
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35 people signed up, but only 12 submitted their save files:smile07:. What a disaster.
I came in 12th place:smile49:.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

По вопросам модерации: nebov24@gmail.com
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I participated in the Deidro tournament, using raise dead, fire trap, and fire warriors.
And, of course, the Vampire Princes helped me out. :)
I managed to build a unique structure on day 13. I think 13th place should be mine:D
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I am participating in a tournament for the first time, so I have some questions and points for discussion:
1. Do all players have the same playthrough as me, playing as the Orcs, or is there a choice? If there is a choice, how was it made, or was the map downloaded individually for each player?
2. Also, why bother leveling up the Shamans to Chain Lightning? I think Slow and Haste are sufficient. You can even do without Wyverns and Cyclops, as I did.
3. On the thirteenth day, building a unique Orc building is difficult, and finding the Grail seems extremely challenging (although nothing is impossible in this world), so dim is being modest, which is commendable :):):).
Overall, I enjoyed the tournament. I will try to participate more often, although it is difficult – life is too busy and hectic to spend most of my time (although I would like to) on a game, even one as great as this, perhaps the best. Circumstances sometimes outweigh our desires, unfortunately. :( :(
Let's see the results – good luck to everyone!
Я, намного больше чем ничего и немного меньше чем все.

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I simply didn't have the time... it's a cliché, but unfortunately, that's the truth...
Кто попробовал слезы мака, тот будет плакать всю жизнь...



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Managed to build a unique structure on day 13.

As I said, it's quite possible to complete the map in half the time, and I even have a little more time left.
And, of course, the Vampire Lords helped.
Where did you get the Vampire Lords from?
Чую время пришло и захлопнулась дверь
Ангел пропел и полопалась кожа...
Мы выпили жизнь, но не стали мудрей,
Мы прожили смерть, но не стали моложе...

Агата Кристи
Ты должен быть сильным,
Ты должен уметь сказать: Руки прочь, прочь от меня,
Ты должен быть сильным, иначе зачем тебе быть?!

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I guess he got it from somewhere else. I see that my clanmates worked hard. I thank them, as well as our esteemed Ghost, for organizing the tournament at a high level. There aren't many saves, but that's not an indicator. :) Ghost! I think you would make a good organizer.
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

:smile24::smile24::smile24::smile24::smile24:
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Lord Vampire;182431

He probably raised them; where else would they come from?
Absolutely correct:) He raised 6 Vampire Lords after the battle with the Warlords.
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I wonder, how many people managed to complete it within the deadline – in two weeks??? From the realm of *what if* – If GHOST had made the starting conditions different – specifically, by increasing the city’s level by +1, then on the 10th day, it would have been possible to reach a city level of 15 (which is necessary for building the Grail). And then it would have been REALISTIC to build the structure on the 11th day! At least, I had the real opportunity for my hero to be in the city on the 11th day with the Grail! But as it was, I had to spend more time clearing the territory and collecting mercury – as a result, I built the structure on the 12th day.
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Hypothetically speaking, if the GHOST had different starting conditions – specifically, if it increased the city's level by +1, then on the 10th day, it would be possible to reach city level 15 (which is necessary for building the Grail). And then it would be REALISTIC to build the structure on the 11th day! At least, I had the opportunity for my hero to be in the city on the 11th day with the Grail!
But as it was, I had to spend more time clearing the territory and collecting mercury, and as a result, I built the structure on the 12th day.
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To be more precise, the Grail can be delivered to the city on the 10th day, or even earlier. I did exactly that in my Walkthrough, but I didn't know about the requirement of city level 15 (the buildings themselves are cheap and don't cause any problems), because I only mined the Grail once – in the 5th mission of the 1st Campaign of the original game. Realizing that all my calculations were wrong, I quickly reworked the Walkthrough to 12 days, but I didn't try to optimize the parameters, because I was overcome by great laziness. And if someone tried harder, they probably won.
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Fireball;182511
To be more precise, the Tear can be delivered to the town on day 10, or even earlier. That's exactly what I did in my playthrough.
Then I take my hat off to you – delivering the Tear on the 10th day or earlier is a great result! But still, secondary heroes played a big role here. Logistics were needed (finding the route) so that they could collect a lot of resources, pass troops along the chain, and so on.
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Yes, 12 days is great. Who fought the outpost with elementals and with which army?
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A great result is achieving the maximum score under the tournament conditions; mine is definitely not the maximum, even based on the parameters. I should have started working on the tournament earlier, but it only started at 7 PM, and I didn't quite focus on the right direction. The tournament turned out to be focused on leveling up a hero, but with a limiting condition. It will be interesting to see how many parameters and mercury the winner manages to accumulate.

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