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The fourth stage of the annual John Van Canigem tournament for HoMM IV

«Seven Steps To Glory»

1. In order to participate in the 4th stage of the Van Canigem tournament for Heroes 4 «Seven Steps To Glory», you must register on our website and leave an application in this thread.

This tournament is official; a rating will be awarded based on its results.

2. The tournament is held on the Russian version of Heroes 4: " Whirlwinds of War " by Buka. The save will be generated on the Russian version.

3. The goal of the game is to defeat the enemy.

The result will be evaluated primarily based on the minimum time.
If several players have an equal completion time, the best will be determined by points; if a favorite is still not determined here, then by the amount of mercury.

4. Tournament Rules.

1) It is forbidden to use cheat codes during the final completion of the save.
2) Restarting or any other modification of the initial save is forbidden.

3) Use of the space bar.

3.1) Use of the "space" key is FORBIDDEN when boarding a boat.
3.2) Use of the "space" key is FORBIDDEN when disembarking from a boat to shore.
3.3) Use of the "space" key is ALLOWED when pulling a killed hero (grave) from under monsters.

4) Bugs - SaveBag

4.1. Moving monsters using saving is FORBIDDEN.
4.2. Additional hero upgrades related to saving are FORBIDDEN.
4.3. 65000 arrows for Elves using saving in battle is FORBIDDEN.

5) Bugs - SinglBag

5.1. Overcoming obstacles on land, i.e., when dragging units with the mouse from upper slots to lower ones, they end up, for example, behind bushes that are usually impassable (the player does nothing forbidden, uses the mouse; during this operation, units lose some of their moves).
ALLOWED.

5.2. Overcoming obstacles when disembarking from a boat to shore, i.e., landing on shore without an indication of the possibility of landing (the anchor is not visible on the shore), again this is done using the mouse, and units' moves are reset (space is obviously forbidden - see point 2).
ALLOWED.

5.3. Upgrading hero graves with a thief. Upgrading hero graves with a Master of Stealth.

PURPOSEFUL upgrading of a grave in this way is FORBIDDEN.

NON-PURPOSEFUL upgrading of a grave in this way is ALLOWED.
You must provide an reasoned explanation as to why you were forced to accidentally upgrade the grave and why it was unavoidable.

5.4. Upgrading graves with ordinary units on attack, defense, or speed crystals (sapphires) in battle, or increasing magic points.
FORBIDDEN.

5.5. Units carrying a grave are allowed to visit stables, oases, wells, and other objects that increase movement points.
Therefore, EVEN PURPOSEFUL transport of a grave through these objects is ALLOWED.

5.6. Use of a hero's spellbook by the same hero as a grave on the adventure map.
FORBIDDEN.

6. The use of "completely Closed external dwellings" on the battlefield is forbidden.
(I will explain in more detail what this is for those who don't understand: I consider a "Closed external dwelling" to be a COMPLETELY enclosed area, for example by rocks or logs, which contains
a small island for a unit, such as a fairy, harpy, vampire, etc.
That is, a place that cannot be entered on land by a unit of the smallest
size (3x3) and can only be reached by air—a kind of natural fortress. Having such an external dwelling, one could use a single fairy to beat a hundred Black Dragons and win an unrealistic battle; to prevent such situations, I forbid "Closed external dwellings" in this tournament.)


7. Digging up the Grail without fully opened obelisks is forbidden!

8. Discussing the tournament on the forum during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players who violate this rule automatically disqualify themselves from playing the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

9. EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALLOWED.
(unlimited number of heroes on the map beyond eight, and so on).

A "Not-closed external dwelling," or more accurately a semi-open one, is allowed in this tournament.
By a semi-open external dwelling, I mean a place where a unit or Hero can
Enter on foot, while the attacking monsters, regardless of their size, must be able to reach the Hero or unit to strike them (the point of a Semi-open external dwelling is to limit the number of monsters attacking you simultaneously). And it's not proper for a Hero to hide in an external dwelling while enemies waste themselves on whatever. Our Heroes fight with open visors.


10. The player is obliged during the tournament progress to keep intermediate saves for each game day.
Intermediate saves may be requested by the tournament leader to verify the honesty of the completion. If the use of cheat codes is detected, as well as errors and game features explicitly mentioned in the rules as forbidden, the player will be immediately excluded from the tournament.
It is also necessary to save controversial battles (such as a hero and a fairy against 100 dragons) so that the honesty of the victory in the clash can be checked.

11. Along with the final save, players are required to send a description of the tactics for the final battle (the more difficult the battle, the more detailed).
If the win depends on morale/luck rolls or specific actions by computer players, a full description of the battle is required—one that allows it to be repeated.

12. Send the final save to the email address Lu41k@yandex.ru or sandroxxl@yandex.ru. The sent save must contain the participant's number from the application table, the abbreviation SG («Seven Steps To Glory»), and the player's Nickname. Example: 1_SG _Lu41k.h4s.

13. The tournament starts on May 6 and will last until June 3 (inclusive!). The result will be announced on June 6, 2008.

14. After receiving your save, you will see in the application table that:

the save is accepted - indicated by a Bold Nickname

This list may be expanded by new participants!
We invite everyone to take part in the tournament!


Saves will only be considered from players who are in this table, so make your applications IN ADVANCE!!!
PARTICIPANT LIST
NUMBERPLAYER NICKNAME
1 SteN
2Драккошка
3L@R$$ON
4Psixxx
5Мирабелла
6T@mar@
7General ZeT
8ValgallaWolf
9Undergrounder
10Brackman
11Тими
12dim013
13LordZezuk
14ZveroBoy
15Romanuel


Everything about the starting save

1. Download the save.

2. The downloaded save must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder of the installed Heroes 4.

3. Load it and start playing at any time convenient for you, while remembering to make daily saves.

4. After completing up to the last action (after which victory occurs), you must save again.

5. With the final save, describe this last step in detail (most likely a battle); then the results will be processed faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!

6. A full description of the tournament map is encouraged (optional). If such descriptions are provided, a contest for the best description will be held; the top 10 (the very best) will take their place of honor in the "Hall of Fame" section!

7. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).

8. Wait for the results.


PS The map was taken from the standard ones and edited by me.
The following are banned on the map: Nature Magic Summoning skill and the "Druid's Chain" artifact (specifically for those who love running around with fairies—don't even try to get Summoning :))! I warn you right away: the map is quite difficult, but in my opinion very beautiful and interesting! I think a tournament of this rank deserves a challenging map! :) © Luchik.

P.S. I wish all tournament participants a great time playing!!! And good luck:smile02:

Respectfully, Luchik and SandroXXL!
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Hello everyone!
If it's not too late, I would like to join the tournament.
I'll send the save file in five minutes.
Under number fourteen.

Added after 11 minutes
I sent the save file to both addresses.
Lu41k@yandex.ru
sandroxxl@yandex.ru
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ZveroBoy, and we welcome you! :) It's been a while since you last visited! I'm adding you as number 14! ;) I've already received the save file, thank you for the quick response! :) Currently, I've received save files from:

L@R$$ON, LordZezuk, Undergrounder, T@mar@, ZveroBoy!

Thank you for participating!

Sincerely, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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ZveroBoy;179527
If it's not too late, I'd like to join the tournament; I'll send my save file in five minutes.
Oops!
Z sneaked up unnoticed... :D
You should have warned me! Otherwise, you'll end up playing against yourself – it's not really planned for you to do that. :)
Hi, by the way, glad to see you :)

How can I withdraw my save file? I feel bad about the result:mad:
I am not useless - I can be used as a bad example!
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Ander, you shouldn't have tried to take shortcuts. This is an official tournament, and it affects the ranking, so you need to approach it as seriously as possible! If it were a practice tournament, I would allow a replay. But in such a serious tournament, I'm sorry, but no! Otherwise, everyone will start asking for replays! Best regards, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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18 years ago
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:smile39: Guys... will you not punish me too harshly? I just didn't have time to sit down at the computer and play because of the room renovation... So don't expect a save from me... I'm sorry that it turned out this way :smile43:
А, вот почему.

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18 years ago
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.............I basically played the map, but, as I already complained to Luchik in a private message, I don't have the right save file at home.... so it's all up to her - if she allows me to send the final version in the morning, I'll run it as best as I can; if not, it's just a first attempt with skipped turns to make it a meat grinder... the difference is about twice as much....

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and, of course, I'm competing with those who want to take last place...
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2Romanuel: Received your PM, I understand the situation. Attention everyone!! Please refrain from discussing the tournament for now. I'm giving you until 12:00 PM on June 4, 2008. Maybe others will join as well ;) Sincerely, Lu41k.


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
18 years ago
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Everything got mixed up at the Oblonsky's place... I had to quickly finish the map at night with what I had... I definitely lost about 10 days, but it's still better than the previous version!!!

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A year ago, about seven people also sent me their saves, but the map was much easier.
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Dear participants! Thank you all for your participation and for submitting your saves. If the results are slightly delayed (session:()), please don't get upset.;) But we will try to do everything on time.
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Romanuel;179741

A year ago, about seven people also submitted their saves, but the map was much easier...

Everything flows, everything changes :) But seriously, we need to grow and improve :)
And I wouldn't call the Powerspot from last year on 4 ВК an easy map :) But 7 steps to glory is also difficult :) Learn, Heroes!:smile01:

Regarding the saves, I'll try my best to post the preliminary results tomorrow! Don't worry, Sandro and I will post everything ;)

And also... I want to say that 9 ВК will be played on Equilibris v 3.51, and all tournaments from now on will be held on this version, because it's time to get used to the new and better! :) It's not that hard to get used to it, from my own experience, as strange as it may seem, my first online tournament was on Equilibris... and I took 2nd place, so as you can see, there are no difficulties ;)

Best regards, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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But even the 7 steps to glory are quite challenging.
Not very challenging, but beautiful and interesting. I really wanted to complete it, and even made a preliminary plan (it would be interesting to see how many days my plan differs from the results of the top players; I don't think it will be by too many days, as the map doesn't allow for that). But the diploma snuck up on me. To be more precise, the defense turned out to be a week earlier than planned. And I still haven't learned to do everything in advance (even though I had some free time in the first half of May). It's a pity.
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Beautiful and interesting. I really wanted to play it, and even made a preliminary plan. It would be interesting to see how many days the actual playthrough will differ from what I planned.

If it's not a secret, could you provide a little more detail about the plan and the estimated number of days required to complete it? I'm just curious about your opinion.
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Yeah, I was thinking of leveling up a bit, equipping myself with potions, and then going straight for the quest artifacts. I'd have to generate a few semi-hidden spots, but just big enough to fit 2-3 heroes. After getting the artifact in the southwest, I'd run back to the Castle (where I'd already have a healer and a strong fighter), learn some spells, and then continue my green-tinted, unpleasant activities of killing creatures. At some point, I could also start focusing on Speed. The last two armies would obviously use attrition and graveyard tactics. If this approach worked, it would take about 9-10 days, assuming that in the fourth game, it might even be 7-8 days. But if my calculation is wrong (which is very possible, since I'm not very good at the fourth game, and I only had about 2 hours for reconnaissance), and it's not possible to break through like that, then I don't know. I could, of course, try to use the Staff of Illusions to cheat, but that would take a long time. I think the hideout + healer + combatant strategy would still lead to victory, I just don't know how many days it would take.
Although, maybe the developers came up with something very clever?
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I apologize, but I didn't understand how many days are allotted for completing the map. :confused:
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it would take about 9-10 days, assuming that for the monsters in the fourth game, it could be 7-8 days.

Fireball, I get scared when I hear words like that: smile11:
:D :D :D

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