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Offline UTER
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But they will usually be willing to compromise with you as well, unless it affects the order or someone’s life! Otherwise, either your hero with Berserkers (if any are still alive) is running away, Centaurs and Cyclops are shooting, Harpies or Nomads are doing their own thing.
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But they will usually try to accommodate you as well, unless it's a matter of order or life! Otherwise, either your hero with Berserkers (if any are left) is running away, Centaurs and Cyclops are shooting, Harpies or Nomads are doing their own thing.
A Barbarian can't do much without magic...
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a Barbarian has nothing to do without magic...

It's worth teaching the Barbarian tactics instead of magic. And, of course, combat skills.


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It’s not always about luck; often you end up playing with just one hero, and Nature magic combined with the power of the Dragon can be more effective than any tactic!
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It's not always the case; often you run around with just one hero, and even Nature Magic with the strength of a dragon can help more than tactics!
Running around with just one hero and hoping for the strength of a dragon (which is useless anyway, as it's easily countered) is a direct path to the grave. Tactics are important for all races, always. The only exception is when you're rushing.
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.
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Running around with a single hero and hoping for the power of a dragon (which is useless anyway, as it's easily countered) is a direct path to the grave. Tactics are important for all races. The only exception is when you're rushing.
But what about rushing with a tactician? It can be quite effective :smile26:, especially on Giant Maze :)

p.s. guys, Oxygen has been exposed!!!
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Honestly, a Barbarian has nothing to do without magic...
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It's worth investing in Tactics for a Barbarian, instead of magic. And of course, Combat.

ZYbr, aren't unconventional ideas valued anymore? ;) I think it's an interesting idea. I understand that there will be a desire to prove to me that Combat and Tactics are forever! Don't bother, I don't doubt it :rolleyes: Besides, I use this combination myself)) But still... I, for example, am for diversity. Within reason, of course ;)
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Heh... to level up magic for a Barbarian, you need to have a Castle that offers that magic... and if you have a Castle, it's better to use a Mage with that magic, as they have more mana and skills (although light mages can reduce Battle Dodge). (In general, it's already low for me... and it's different for everyone :\... I don't know why... even though they're all the same race, I leveled up the Tactics skill for the leader, and it's at 5, while the mobs have less...)

P.S. Relying on books... hmm... isn't a very good option either), so it's better to focus on combat + tactics... or maybe even another hero).

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Heh... to level up magic for a Barbarian, you need to have a castle that offers that magic... and if you have a castle, it's better to use a Mage with that magic, as they have more mana and skills (although Light Mages can reduce Battle Discipline)... (in principle, it's already low for me... and it's different for everyone :\... I don't know why... they're all the same race, I leveled up the Tactics skill for the leader, and it's 5, but the mobs have less...)

P.S. Relying on books... khm... isn't a very good option either), so it's better to focus on Battle and Tactics... or maybe even another hero)
There will be as much mana as the skills and artifacts provide (not counting summons), and it doesn't depend on the hero's class, and morale reacts to any other element of the army (including the hero), whether it's friendly or not, just in different ways. So, we take a Bird, level up some kind of buff (besides the already mentioned Battle and Tactics) and go ahead with a song!
p.s. you might get lucky and get a dispel spell right away from the basic magic, for example, from the Order magic.
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p.s. guys, Oxygen has been exposed!!!
What did I reveal? :o
That I rush without tactics? :D
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.
© О. Хайям
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There will be as much mana as the skills and artifacts provide (not counting summons), and it doesn't depend on the hero's class. Morale reacts to any other element in the army (including the hero), whether it's friendly or not, just in different ways. So, we take the Bird, level up some kind of buff skill (besides the already mentioned Combat and Tactics), and off we go!
P.S. You might get lucky and receive Dispel right away with the basic Magic of Order skill.

Skills require levels. And in the end, you'll get a barbarian-mage who doesn't have much opportunity to learn the necessary spells, relying on scrolls and books, and has lost his combat power, with which he could practically level up and acquire artifacts and resources on his own, without an army.
So, what will Dispel of Order give a barbarian? The ability to remove a curse? But then he will also remove immortality - and that's a big chance of him being destroyed.

A barbarian has a large army, even if you don't take a secondary noble, the number of troops will still be very large, so it's worth taking Tactics and leveling up Combat so that he can immediately give the army "buffs" in battle, which will only be removed after his death, and considering the armor and attack, it will be very difficult to do. And in the meantime, the barbarian can independently reduce the ranks of the enemy's troops.


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Skills require levels. So, what will a dispel from Haven give a Barbarian?
Okay, then you take the basic Life skill, and you immediately get Exorcism, which is useful... to get a couple of magic skills, you don't need to spend levels; a simple hut for Basic will suffice, and then a magic library; anyway, combat and tactics are combat skills...
Dispel is always needed; if a mage casts Berserk on some mega-unit near a hero-barbarian, he's doomed; no matter how much armor he has...
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Okay, then you take the basic Life skill, and you immediately get Exorcism, which is useful... so you don't have to spend levels to get a couple of magic skills – a simple hut for Basic will suffice, and then a magic library; anyway, combat and tactics are combat skills...
Dispel is always needed; if a mage casts Berserk on some mega-unit near a hero-barbarian, he's doomed, he won't stand a chance, no matter how much armor he has...

I disagree about Life; you might get Spiritual Armor or Blessing, and these two spells appear in the basic skills much more often than Exorcism. The same goes for Dispel.
And the chance of finding, for example, a shield with protection against magic from Haven or even a red cloak (30% magic protection for warriors) is probably higher than finding a spell; at least, you lose less.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
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Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
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a dispel is always needed; if a mage casts Berserk on a mega-unit near a hero-Barbarian, the Barbarian is doomed, he won't survive, no matter how high his armor is...

If he manages to cast the spell before he's taken down by Cyclops, or the Barbarian with a bow.
I'am Goldot Halfdead:smile24:
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If he manages to cast a spell before the cyclops take him out, or even a Barbarian with a bow :)
The Barbarian might not even see him, and who would bring such a weak unit? He'll be taken out by the cyclops anyway, and in any case, he'll be under a protective spell and have upgraded combat skills or armor...

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The bird removes 2 attacks from the cloak at once))
That's true, so the bird wins)
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