What is your opinion on Dom 2? Auto-translated

People are willing to do a lot for money, but maybe they left for reasons other than money; maybe there's something else going on here?

You're such a mystic! Give me an example:


Exactly.
They left for both the money and the humor they found there.

and what, are they supposed to eternally languish in KVN? It offers few benefits. And the teams there are mostly just students.
But they have their own show, and they can perform any kind of humor in it, not just politically correct humor, and besides, yes, they make good money from it.
But how else? They need to expand. If you disdain currency, then you'll end up living in poverty, won't you?
And many people love comedy. That means it's something people want, and pretentious snobbery here is unnecessary.

Comedy = vulgarity --\ comedy = House 2
House 2 = vulgarity ----/

You're like a mystic! Give me an example:

right, right.
they left for the money, and for the humor there.

Well, maybe they left for an idea, to promote Russian humor, or something else.

Well, maybe they left to promote Russian humor, or something else.

Promote?! I would say they lowered it very low.

Raise it?! I would say, lower it very significantly.

But they might think they can raise it to a completely new level.

But they might think they are taking it to a completely new level :)

Well, if you look at it from that angle, then yes. They think they are improving it, but in reality, they are making it worse.

Dude, Wolf, stop bashing Comedy Club.
They're bringing down humor, yeah? But was it ever "high-quality" in our country?
All we ever had was Smekhopanorama.
Now it's "Crooked Mirror." Yeah, in my opinion, it's way too crooked. Have you ever looked into its essence? It's idiotic, everyday "humor." All the jokes are either about "how the son-in-law got drunk at the wedding," or "how the husband came home drunk at 3 a.m.," or "women are burning things (Stepanenko)." And that's it. Is that funny? Maybe to a retiree, without a doubt. Retirees also watch Brazilian soap operas.
Okay, what else? Ah, yes!
Galtsev, Vetrov, Vorobey, and other losers. Who can't do anything except go on stage, make faces, and say something in an idiotic voice. I always feel like I need to lean over the toilet when I see these freaks.
And... Zadornov? Enough has already been said about him. He's getting old. His jokes are mostly copied from the internet. And there's more and more demagoguery instead of humor.
Hmm... Ah! KVN. It seems not bad, but there's only one funny joke for every fifty, what a pity! And almost all of them are about the peoples of the CIS. So to speak, they're making fun of themselves. Mostly it's bland.
And so? Is this all our humor? The one that's "being brought down"? No, my friend, not at all. It's impossible to sink lower than the floor that's been spat on.
That's how it is.
Besides, what does it mean to "bring down humor"? Humor is different everywhere. There's toilet humor, there's black humor, there's Soviet humor, and so on.
These are all different types that still exist today. So it's silly to divide it into good and bad.

The humor (if you can call it that) in Krivoy's skits, especially the one with the bald guy and the little fluffy guy, just kills me... it's just awful:mad:. And then, when Vagonych starts talking in Smekhopanorama, saying that everything is done so skillfully, that the artists are very talented, and throws around all sorts of terms, it makes me sick. Zadorny used to be great, but now he's just fading, but compared to the rest, he's still okay. He's started performing more like a moralist than a satirist (or whatever he was). All sorts of Anshlag and similar shows – I won't comment on them, it's obvious. Comedy – I haven't seen much of it. (I don't watch TNT), but I did watch some Russian stuff about Djumshut online – it's funny, sometimes even quite good. KVN – it's getting better. Shats – also getting better (I don't know why Loku dislikes him so much), he's a man with a sense of humor. I'm not saying he's amazing, but he's decent (there's almost no vulgarity). As a host, he's not great, in my opinion, he lacks charm, but sometimes his shows are good. Overall, I have mixed feelings about his shows. Of the humorous hosts, I like Garik Martirosyan. He hosts almost flawlessly – he understands how to behave when hosting a show for a mass audience. Ivan Urgant ("Circus" with Ivan – I haven't watched it) – he's fine, he likes to make fun of people. But he also understands that you can't treat everyone that way (I'm talking about Pozdner in "One-Story America"). Galkin – he's a humorous guy himself, but he doesn't know when to stop, he often overdoes it (especially when he starts doing his strange parodies), he can't seem to shut up when he needs to, and he's often vulgar. Well, I think I've said my piece.:)

What’s with your obsession with humor? ;) Sometimes, you find humor on forums, and there are situations that are so relatable that you can’t help but laugh after reading them... I mean, people are hilarious, and sometimes they go a little too far. :)
But humor is perceived differently by each person, depending on their individuality, as they say, there’s no accounting for taste.

Lock, humor hasn't been great in our country because of things like this [...], like comedy shows. They should at least try to improve it instead of making it even worse. Is it possible to sink lower than the floor? We're already below the floor. And I'm not just talking about comedy shows. I'm talking about almost everything on TNT. Soon they'll even ruin the "Taxi" show. Because everything else is already spoiled.

Well, there's no need to worry about "Taxi."
It's been running for several years now, with the same music, the same visuals, the same catchphrases from the host like "Bye-bye," "My name is Gosha Kutsenko, what's your name?" and "The simple questions, which cost 5 rubles, are over. Now the questions will be more difficult, and they will cost 10 rubles," as well as the host's ever-present affected laughter (with a hint of ambiguity), and it will continue like this until the Second Coming...
As for "improving" the humor... that's a good idea, but how? It's not the humor that sets the moral tone of society now; it's the moral tone that sets the humor. People today are much more likely to laugh at vulgarity or dark humor; it's just the way things are. It's a time of cynicism. And I don't judge people for it; in the Soviet Union, there was no place for such humor, and therefore, it's still fresh and new.
So...

P.S. I don't like Shats and his shows because of the blatant absurdity. What is this idiocy – blowing confetti at the player while he's playing "Understand Me" with his friends?
And what about the jokes? "I'm an Indian from the Umba-Kurumba tribe!" – and the audience bursts out laughing. In general, it's no better than a distorted mirror, in my opinion.
They would be better off continuing to make the series.

I agree with you, but only partially. I wanted to say that, in my opinion, Chance sometimes delivers, but sometimes he just talks nonsense. Specifically regarding the shows, I don't like the following: "good jokes" - I don't like the way they subtly pressure the guests to somehow sneak in the round's placard; the "understand me" contest with the propeller or vibrator - that's also nonsense. When they sing in reverse, it's performed so-so, but the idea is good. "He came" - I don't like the fact that it's impossible to say in advance whether the show will be funny or not - it all depends on the guests. And if they invite someone like Anfisa Chekhova, the humor automatically drops to the level of vulgarity (she focuses attention on her "charms," on her underwear, etc., so it's unpleasant to watch), or if they invite Pushnoy, who sometimes spouts nonsense, although he's a humorous guy in general, or if they invite some "log" who just stands there, is silent, and acts dumb. But sometimes it can be funny. As far as I remember, Adabashyan was brilliant there, so the actors were even lost, not knowing how to continue the performance - that's a true master of improvisation. I also liked the improvisation of one actor who appeared in some series on STS. It was also good; he answered tricky questions in a way that was logical and not vulgar - he came out unscathed. Regarding the series: it's the same - some episodes are amazing, and some are just not good, really not good. P.S. I'm not a fan of his shows; I don't follow them in the TV schedule, and I've probably watched not that many episodes, and it's quite possible that I have a distorted view of these shows. Who knows... :rolleyes:

Which new game are you talking about? TNT has been around for a long time, and its humor is outdated:D
What do you have against dark humor? It's perfectly normal, in my opinion. But there's no need to keep talking about it; the whole country is already saturated with it. And you're right about morality. Morally, we've sunk so low that we're even lower than the aforementioned spit-stained floor, and I don't even know where we can go from here.

I think it’s best not to talk about morality and other human qualities at all; I don’t think any of us can give an accurate definition of these words, so there’s no need to bring up morality, especially in our time, as it just makes you feel sad. As for humor, it depends on our values. Some people were raised to laugh at toilet humor, and what can you do about it? Nothing. You can either reject it or join the ranks of the vulgar; everyone has a choice.