Guild of mercenaries. Auto-translated

Hello everyone. This thread is created exclusively for mercenary players who can be hired by any clan for a reward. A mercenary player is considered to be a player who is not a member of any official clan. I ask each mercenary who provides certain services to any clan to write here what they can do and what services they can provide to support a particular clan.

any clan can hire them for a fee

Interesting... How do you pay mercenaries?

There's no need to create a guild; you just need to add a new position to each clan - "clan mercenaries"... IMHO.

P.S.: Our clan isn't participating in this, as we have our own mercenary system.

I want to point out right away...
The BD was reduced not without reason... Those who are interested in why should find me on ICQ, because there's no point in writing it here - the post will be deleted for inciting conflict.

And I don't understand... What's the point of this topic? To keep track of mercenaries? Why is that necessary? Or is the goal to list available mercenaries? Then it's not clear why this is:

I ask each mercenary who provides services to any clan to post here.

PS Please clarify.

Why does the National Basketball League have something called the Free Agent List? It's much easier to choose from a list than to search for mercenaries on a forum. And it's also more convenient to offer services here than to bother the leaders on ICQ. In my opinion, it's a good initiative. Please find me on ICQ – I'll explain why I lowered the BD. How to pay? It's elementary. Soon, there will be grail items, right? So, the clan can pool their money and buy a mercenary.

The idea of the Mercenary Guild has been around on the forum for a long time, even before this thread and before the author of this thread registered. But it's meaningless until a system of grails (or another currency) is introduced. The thread should be closed for the time being.

Our clan has no intention of using mercenary services... First.
Second - if you are a clan, recruit players for yourselves. If you haven't recruited enough players for full participation in a particular version, then don't participate in tournaments and competitions in that "discipline."

If you are a free (clanless) player, it means you need something? If you don't want to join a clan, then don't. But don't participate in clan competitions either!!! That's it. Second - if you still want to participate in these competitions, join a clan. Otherwise, you don't want to be in a clan because you don't like the idea of clans... But you still want to participate... How is that possible?

I don't consider the mercenary system to be fair or correct when clans exist.

Sorry for any harshness in my statement.

You've gone a bit too far. First of all, we're not a clan; we're mercenaries who will play for whichever clan needs our skills. No one would join Competitive as a free mercenary just for the sake of it. As for the unfairness, please explain more clearly, as it's not entirely clear what you're referring to. Let's not discuss whether this idea was conceived long before this topic or not; I don't see the point in such posts (please don't take offense). This topic shouldn't be closed until the rules appear; I'll explain why. During this time, before the rules take effect, a real and functioning Guild will be organized here, not just a single mercenary. No one is going to keep track of anything; I think you understand what I mean by a "Guild of mercenaries" in the literal sense. P.S. Dear portal users, let's not clutter this topic with unnecessary posts. There are already attempts to do this in every topic on the portal. In the future, if you have questions, it's better to resolve them through direct messages. At this point, all questions have been resolved, and I request that posts numbered 3, 5, and 6 be deleted. Thank you for your attention.

Why are you deleting posts? Do you think the existence of the Guild is not up for discussion??? I think the opposite....
Let's discuss it!!!

P.S. I don't consider Mercenaries as a separate clan. Please read the posts more carefully.... And if no one will participate in clan competitions, what's the POINT of having mercenaries???? Please explain - what is the purpose of your existence in that case???

Actually, weren't mercenaries already involved in clan competitions, or am I just imagining things?

Actually, weren't mercenaries already involved in clan competitions, or am I just imagining things?

Mercenaries have indeed been involved.

And another question. Who will be responsible for this guild?

Let's not discuss whether this idea has been around for a long time or not; I don't see the point in such posts (please don't take offense).

I'm not easily offended, and I hope you aren't either, so I'll be direct.
Many on the forum have formed a not-so-positive opinion of you after your attempt to create a Clan (whether justified or not is not worth discussing now). Now you're throwing out a generally good idea, but given the current situation, it will cause a lot of unnecessary negativity, especially since you haven't secured the support of other players, and there's no economic base for its implementation. I hinted that there's a reason why this wasn't actively proposed before. Apparently, I didn't hint well enough.

2 To Ta Kotoraya

I don't consider the mercenary system to be fair or right, especially with the existence of Clans.

Fairness and rightness are subjective concepts, but here are three objective counterarguments.
1. Mercenaries fit organically into the fantasy world in general (most heroes in sagas were essentially mercenaries) and the Heroes world in particular (remember the Mercenary Camp and the general concept of dwellings).
2. Mercenaries can genuinely expand Clan battles, contribute to their development, and the development of the economic system as a whole, as the concept of a Clan treasury will emerge.
3. As always, I urge you to call things by their names: unofficially, mercenary activity is already thriving on our portal, because what other word can be used to describe the mass recruitment of players from other resources into their Clans? Moreover, this type of mercenary activity is one of the worst for the portal, at least in its current implementation. And it's not just that some of the newcomers are not behaving very appropriately and are openly stirring up trouble. The main thing is that the Clans themselves are not "raising" players. Why would they? After all, newcomers are unlikely to reach the level of the existing players in the near future.

I think the idea is very good! Of course, without introducing Grails, it doesn't make sense (I don't think there will be fans who will pay real money for some clan war), and if that's the case, we can postpone this discussion. 2Ta Kotoraya... The idea is simple. A young clan of newcomers, wanting to gain recognition, can hire a mercenary to participate in a tournament to earn Grails (if the idea survives...) and so on. It's easy for the EPU clan, which has many strong players, to talk. But what about a clan of newcomers? No strong players will join them right away...

2Ta Kotoraya... The idea is simple. A young clan of newcomers, wanting to gain recognition, could hire a mercenary to participate in a tournament to earn grails (if, of course, the idea survives...) and so on.
It's easy for the EPU clan to talk, as they have many strong players. But what about a clan of newcomers? No strong players will join them right away...

Perhaps.... However, the question is - how did we get strong players in the first place??? The answer is - GRADUALLY!!! How much time has passed since our clan was formed? It's already been more than a year... And only recently have we started inviting strong players. And this happened by chance. Nothing prevents other clans from doing the same. And for a very long time, we existed "on our own" ;) (if I may say so). And look - what kind of players we have "grown". Kamikaze, Big Oak - they are real stars! And they "emerged" specifically in our clan. Even take me and Rapper as an example. Look at us 1.5-2 years ago - and now. The difference is obvious!!!!

So, I don't think the issue of strong players, and especially inviting them, is a valid one. Those who want to, will find a way. Those who don't, will find an excuse.

If a clan wants to have strong players in its ranks, it can either develop its own OR invite already established "monsters" - no one forbids them from doing this, right? And the idea that they won't join a newcomer clan is nonsense. The leader must find arguments, choose the right moment to invite them, and use all available means (if he really needs this player!)

I also don't have any acquaintances among players on other resources - but it turned out that we have invited players... And, I must say, almost all of them have integrated wonderfully and actively into the team ;)

P.S. All of the above is IMHO. My opinion should not be associated with anything else.

I'll say it again... A guild is needed, and please don't interfere with its prosperity.

:D I won't be kind – since I don't see any Guild as such yet, and there's nothing to thrive on...
And if you can't even answer my questions properly, which I asked in post #8, then I can't have a constructive dialogue with you personally. In this regard, I think it is unwise to engage in further arguments....