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18 years ago
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_Prizrak_;171735
Luck, chaos, magic... Are you guys even human?...

The person just slightly missed the topic :D (wrote about the Academy), but they already realized their mistake and deleted the message:smile20:
18 years ago
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Shogun, the order in which skills and abilities are acquired is irrelevant. However, there is a dependency between them. Therefore, you will never be given them in the wrong order. I am currently also trying to level up Railaga as a Creature Ability (CA) hero in the original campaign in version 3.0.

However, the chances are close to zero. For CA in version 3.0, you need luck, wizardry, and chaos. I didn't risk being left without magic attraction from the education branch. And he also has defense at the start. Without the help of witches, I simply won't reach level 30, to which Railaga can realistically be leveled up. 2 witches in the 2nd mission have already turned their backs on him. One has summoning, and the other has logistics.

In 3.0, it is easiest to level up Vaishana as a CA hero thanks to his starting skills. And the hero himself is one of the best (IMHO). In any case, you need luck if there is no mentor on the map, and you are not using a cheating (IMHO) scanner. I don't use it on principle. In 3.0, it is easier to get CA than in other versions, because you only need to level up 3 skills for CA.

I recently got Agrail as a CA hero. But it is much easier for him. He immediately has an attack with Blade of Binding, and the witch in the first mission always gives logistics. Minus 3 level-ups. There are heroes who, even theoretically, cannot get CA without a mentor.

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The person just made a slight mistake with the topic :D (wrote about the Academics), but he already understood his mistake and deleted the message:smile20:
That's right. I thought no one would have time to read it.
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18 years ago
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But I still can't do it. Is it even possible? I can't seem to gather all the necessary abilities. I understand that the order in which you take them also matters. But the game either doesn't give me the skills I need, or it gives them, but not in the right order.
I tried, without the old man who changes skills, and it's impossible, and even with him, it's doubtful; you'll just waste money.
However, the chances are close to zero.
In my opinion, they're even negative.
18 years ago
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Dracon Mallasa
With the Grand Magus, you can develop anything. In the Campaigns, I even developed Empathy for Zehir. It's true, I spent a huge amount of money before I got Leadership. I easily developed the Special Ability (SA) for Gotay (with the help of the Grand Magus). In the vanilla version, I tried to develop the SA for Agraila three times. It worked once. And in version 3.0, I tried once, and it worked right away. I didn't even try to develop the SA for the others in versions 1.3-1.5. Either I didn't like the SA itself, or the path to it, or both.

I agree that my chances are decreasing. But I was very afraid to start the 3rd mission without Magic Affinity. In the first 2 weeks, the hero needs a lot of mana. In any case, I will develop what leads to the SA. In 3.0, there are almost no useless abilities. It's a pity that I failed with both witches in the 2nd mission. I don't remember how many more will be on Raileigh's path until the end of the 6th Campaign. And there is also a high probability that the path to the SA will fail much earlier. I didn't want to develop the SA for Isabel, Godric, and Marcel even in 3.0. I won't do it for Zehir either.

In my opinion, you should only develop the SA when there are only excellent abilities on the way to it. Otherwise, you can end up with a hero who is not very well developed, and you still won't get the SA. Everything depends on luck.
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18 years ago
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I don't know anything about the company... But I always managed to max out the СА on the map generator. There's no need to mislead people by saying that it's not possible...
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18 years ago
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_Prizrak_;172016
I don't know anything about the company... But I always managed to get the Skill Academy (SA) on the map generator... There's no need to mislead people that it's not possible...

I completely agree. I rarely reach the late game, but I got the Skill Academy (SA) 3 out of 5 times.
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18 years ago
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Ghost, I'm not just saying this for no reason, and I'm not trying to mislead anyone. I checked it myself, created a map in an online game, and played with 6 players, and NONE of them were able to level up their special ability without a Necromancer. Only with him was it possible to properly level up a hero. And even then, it cost a lot of money, around 50,000 per hero. And that's not a small amount; if you allow yourself such expenses in an online game, you'll lose.
18 years ago
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Dracon Mallasa, I think that in hotseat games on a map, not everyone tries to max out the Spell Power skill. For a Mage, it's suicide. For a Knight, it's pointless (IMHO, readiness is more useful). For a Warlock, I always try to max out the Education skill with magic attraction first. For a Druid, I usually max out Chaos. I definitely try to max out Spell Power only for a Demon and an Orc.
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18 years ago
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Dragon.... You might not understand how to properly level up a hero?... That's why I succeed.... I think you know this yourself, but just in case, I'll write it down:)
First, take a skill (try not to level it up to expert), then take a perk in it, then level it up to improved, and take another perk... And that's how you'll succeed step by step...
18 years ago
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When I want to level up my Commander, I do the following:
1. I choose a hero with the necessary skills.
2. I acquire the basics of all the necessary skills as soon as possible.
3. I get the racial skill and its most useful abilities, hoping that the good witches will help me get the rest. At the same time, I try to check the witches as quickly as possible.
4. Then, I do as _Prizrak_ described.
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18 years ago
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I have a question: Which dragon is better to choose? Red or Twilight?
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18 years ago
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Against factions that use darkness and chaos, black units are better, and against the rest, red units are better. IMHO.
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18 years ago
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But the red faction doesn't have resistance to magic!
18 years ago
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Well, that's the point – against those who can use magic to harm dragons, we use Black Dragons; in any other case, we use Red Dragons. Of course, there's a chance of encountering mines, divine retribution, etc., but, as they say, if you're afraid of wolves, don't go into the forest.
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18 years ago
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But why would they need it if the opponent doesn't use magic against them?:D

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P.S. Major explained everything well, and even faster than me).

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