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Heroes of Might and Magic IV is...
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Multiple choice Closed 2006-02-20
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A revolution in the series
28.6% 6 votes
Favorite game in the series
9.5% 2 votes
Failed experiment
52.4% 11 votes
They aren't heroes at all (what were NWC thinking?)
0% 0 votes
Just an upgrade for HoMM3
0% 0 votes
Other (please specify)
19% 4 votes
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I would actually play that map too, by the way – it’s intriguing, but my disc has been borrowed by someone, and unfortunately, I’ve forgotten who exactly.
The store will help you ;)

And if we talk about the 4th game... Of course, in the 4th game, the Hero plays a significant role!
And that's a good thing, because he finally started doing his direct duties, namely fighting, and not just carrying reinforcements and capturing everything in sight! Now there are units and armies that move on their own, which is quite natural! You don't need a commander to bring reinforcements!
In the previous parts, and even in the 5th, Heroes were needed for this – you buy several Heroes just to carry the army, and collect artifacts and resources: they are good soldiers, I must say! Well, in the 5th game, they at least fight on their own now :) And people say that the 4th game is bad, but many things from the 4th game were transferred to the 5th :) And the fact that Heroes can fight on the battlefield and caravans were finally added! Which is very correct, you don't have to run around dwellings and collect units))
It turns out that if a Hero is not a Mage, then he has nothing to do in battle... To strengthen the army? Well, you could just as easily attach artifacts to the units, increasing their power and providing protection, etc... The Hero is of no use in battle, he just stands there like an outside observer! :)

So, about the Hero in the 4th game ))
The Hero can be developed in different ways :) You can make him a Warrior, a Mage, a Tactician, and the huge number of possible classes hasn't been canceled :) The development and the strategy itself depend on many things: on which Castle you are playing, against which, and most importantly, on the map! Especially in online mode! There are maps where a Warrior and a fast unit are enough, there are maps where it is better to play as a Mage, and there are maps where a Tactician is needed, because the map is played not only by Heroes, but also by a mandatory army! And here, whoever is better at tactics will win! And everything is important here! The arrangement of troops, the troops themselves, the development of the Heroes, what artifacts they have and how they are equipped, what spells the Hero(es) have and how he uses them, and even the terrain is important, and all sorts of potions are very helpful! In the 4th Heroes, there are many possible scenarios!
Imagine this situation... In the 3rd game, for example, a super-developed Hero goes, but with only one unit (it doesn't matter where he goes, maybe he's going for a lying artifact)... And then an enemy army appears (a weak army), and kills him... Because the first turn was given to her, and the Hero didn't even have time to run away! And he has no one to fight with! Despite all his coolness! In the 4th game, this Hero would defeat the entire army, or at least cut them down significantly before running away!
And here's something else I like in the 4th Heroes and don't like in the 5th! It's the magic of each Castle! If it's a Castle of Nature, then you can learn all the available magic up to level 5 (something good will definitely be available), if not, go to another City of Nature (or a related one)! In the 5th game, this is not the case, you have to run around the cities a lot in search of spells... There are few of them in the 5th game... And in the 4th game, there are such good shops – they are called conservatories! You go there and buy the spells you need (you can buy them for growth), it's a pity there are none in the 5th game... (or did I miss something?)

And now, personally for you, Wendy :)
Not so long ago, we had the Olympic Games, and the second stage was held in the form of duels in the 5th Heroes! You are given a developed Hero with artifacts and an army (you can choose the race yourself), and he is opposed by another Hero with an army! It's like a tactical duel! Here you have armies, and not just pumping up! It was a very interesting stage, I must say :) If you want, play it, but it's better online, because it's not interesting with the computer))


And finally... I don't want to say that the 2nd, 3rd, or 5th Heroes are worse than the 4th )) Of course not! They all have their advantages and disadvantages! But the 4th game is more interesting for me personally! You can learn to play it for a very long time and constantly discover something new! Something to combine, to go through in different ways! The strategy in the 4th game is diverse :)

In general, I love the 4th Heroes :) And I won't hide it :)

P.S. Sorry for the many words :) Something made me want to write today )))))
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You can turn him into a Warrior, a Mage, a Tactician, and the huge number of possible classes hasn't been canceled either :)

That's really true! Hero leveling in the Fourth game is a whole separate story :) The developers finally understood that the game is called "Heroes..." and gave them a much bigger role here than in previous parts...
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And here's something else I like about the 4th Heroes and don't like about the 5th! It's the magic of each Castle! If it's a Nature Castle, then you can learn all the available magic up to level 5 in it.

Another argument in favor of the Fourth game. Now, the hero's specialization is clearly visible. Previously, spells of levels 1-2 were available to ALL heroes. Whether it was a Barbarian, a Warlock, or a Knight. The differences in specialization were slightly blurred...
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And in the 4th game, there are such good shops - they are called conservatories! You go there and buy the spells you need (you can buy them for future use), it's a pity there aren't any in the 5th... (or did I miss something?)

I think that in "Lords of Magic" they introduced a new building where you can buy spells. But only high-level ones, and you can't buy them for future use. You need to learn them on the spot and only if you have a certain skill. In general, there are many conditions. :D
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In general, I love the 4th Heroes :) And I won't hide it :)

Lu41k, why hide it? :D That's great!!! :)

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Heroes 4 is a good game. But it has many drawbacks: these include a terribly weak AI, and simply huge maps (it takes 5-10 days to complete one), and a weak income in the castle (only 2000 per day - enough to hire 1/4 of a dragon). But there are also incredible advantages! For example, the ability to create an army consisting only of heroes (or to play with one hero like in RPG games), the graphics, which are better than in Heroes 3, and the campaigns have a decent plot. In general, it's a game for those who like it, although I would improve the game (if I were the developers) to eliminate at least half of the drawbacks I mentioned.
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Heroes 4 is a good game. But it has many drawbacks: terrible AI, huge maps (it takes 5-10 days to complete one), and weak income in the castle (only 2000 per day - enough to hire 1/4 of a dragon).
Are these all the drawbacks?
1. Play against a human.
2. Play on smaller maps.
3. Play maps with gold mines.

I've created a game for you with no drawbacks! Hooray!
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Hooray!

Truly, Hooray!!! :)

Heroes 4 offers players truly extensive possibilities! :)

It's now very easy to find an opponent! There are plenty of small and, at the same time, interesting maps! And if you're short on gold, you can open the editor and add a couple of mines :D. But it's better to play the map without changes... You'll get more enjoyment that way!!

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Thanks! Ha-ha, it's so simple! I'm actually downloading maps right now. It gets a bit boring to sit in the editor myself. I'm feeling a bit lazy right now. But downloading a ready-made map from your forum is a great thing. Can you recommend anything?
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NOTE!! Most of the fourth installments in game series try to change things, introduce something new, and revolutionize the genre – Resident Evil 4, Silent Hill 4, Monkey Island 4, Broken Sword 4, Heroes 4...
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I liked Heroes 4. They have their own unique features! :smile54:
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Everyone considers the fourth installment a failure, but I think it doesn't deserve all the criticism (it only deserves some:D) that it has received from various people...
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I think that Heroes 4 is a good game; I liked it more than 3. Much more.
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Are those all the downsides?
1. Play with a human.
2. Play on small maps.
3. Play on maps that have gold mines.

I've made a game for you with no downsides! Hooray!

but it's limited ;) :D

I read the list of bugs in Heroes 5 and got disappointed in the game.
The most important thing is, why can't they fix them quickly?!

and in this case, I would add:

4. Play Equilibris.

and regarding Heroes 3 and 4:

some people like checkers, some like chess.

by changing the combat system in Heroes 4, the developers lost some of their old fans, but also gained new ones.
and the fact that there are good ideas in Heroes 4
is evident because they were properly implemented in Heroes 5.
I've already written somewhere that a significant part of Heroes 5 comes from Heroes 4.

The only thing missing is daily growth (it greatly weakens the problem of attacking on the first day of the week with red units).
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I think my opinion will coincide with many others: Heroes 4 is AWFUL :smile18:. Of course, I won't generalize, but I'm sure most people agree with me.
Why be so harsh? It was just not a very successful experiment! The graphics are great, and the gameplay isn't completely terrible.
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Why be so harsh? It's just not a very successful experiment! The graphics are great, and the gameplay isn't completely terrible.
I said I wouldn't generalize. Besides, I didn't criticize the graphics, but the gameplay still isn't great. Especially when compared to the other installments. Overall, it's an unsuccessful experiment by 3DO, and also the last one.
In my opinion, they decided to repeat themselves and create something similar to the third part. And the biggest drawback is that they combined two castles into one, and when building creatures, you have to choose one of the two. And there are no upgrades either. Overall, it's a matter of personal taste.
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I said I wouldn't generalize. Besides, I wasn't criticizing the graphics, but the gameplay is still not great. Especially when compared to the other installments. Overall, it's an unsuccessful experiment by 3DO, and also the last one.
In my opinion, they decided to repeat themselves and create something similar to the third part. And the biggest drawback is that they combined two factions into one, and when building creatures, you have to choose one of the two. And there are no upgrades either. Overall, it's a matter of personal taste.
All of the above can be considered as advantages; just READ what was written BEFORE you.
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