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Слоныш

4/1/2008 8:33 AM UTC

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Fireball;166096

Not exactly. This indicates the unpredictability of such an outcome with these few hundred players. Personally, I thought it would be a draw, but I'm not surprised by Rubin's victory (as with all other results of the round). I didn't believe in Zenit's victory at all; they have other concerns right now. And if Rubin's newly acquired players start playing well together, then someone will have to make room not only in the UEFA zone but also, possibly, in the top three, although it's too early to talk about that.

Okay, you've convinced me – you know everything about everything. At least tell me your predicted top five for the 2008 Russian Championship, and then we can talk about predictability not after the fact, but now. Because, guys, excuse me, but even I can say after the next round: "I knew it, that's exactly how it should have been!" Let's talk about specific things before the round.

Fireball

4/1/2008 11:30 AM UTC

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Just name your top five for the Champions League 2008, and then we can talk about predictability not after the fact, but now.

Isn't that a bit too long to wait for verification? And let's define the terms "predictability" and "unpredictability" right away. For example, Milan and Manchester United are playing on a neutral field. Can you accurately predict the result (at least the score)? Of course not, you can only guess. But can you call results like 1-1, 2-0, or 1-0 unpredictable? No, these are quite normal results; however, if it were 10-0...
That's why I wrote that I'm not surprised by Zenit's defeat; mathematically, this means that I considered the probability of such an outcome to be not too small. Although I considered a draw to be the most likely outcome.

Everything that doesn't relate to football discussions has been removed! Luchik

Lu41k

4/1/2008 3:37 PM UTC

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A big request! In this topic, we discuss football! Let's not resort to personal attacks and calmly accept criticism! If something in your opponent's message doesn't suit you, please discuss it privately! There are PMs, ICQ, etc. for that...

And also, remember that there are as many opinions as there are people! And naturally, your opinions may not coincide, so please don't argue about it here!

Sincerely, Luchik!

"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."

BotINKi

4/1/2008 6:29 PM UTC

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Lu41k :)
I just wanted to point out that you can't be sure of anything, especially predictions... and that this forum doesn't care about old guys who have been watching football for more than 20-30 years...
nothing more, I repeat :) Peace?
I agree, I didn't expect that from Rubin, and from Khimki after the first two rounds...
Let's move on, let's forget it...

Клан"Yan-luo-Wan"

Зло летает на крыльях, добро ползает как черепаха.

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Слоныш

4/1/2008 7:27 PM UTC

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BotINKi;166403

Lu41k :)
SloNysh, I just wanted to point out that you can't be sure of anything, especially predictions... and that this forum doesn't care about old guys who have been watching football for more than 20-30 years...

And who is sure? No one is sure... Otherwise, there would be no point in holding matches.

Never mind those old guys, the topic is for us to discuss football.
And I like the unpredictability of the 2008 championship. Every weekend, you wait for surprises. But, of course, my positive attitude is greatly influenced by Dynamo's second place in the standings, hehe.

BotINKi;166403

I agree, I didn't expect that from Rubin, and from Khimki after the first two rounds...

And what about Amkar? They played well in the first two rounds. And now... a home match!..

Dreamcatcher

4/2/2008 3:31 AM UTC

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Hello to all football fans! We have a Dynamo team in Barnaul, which has always played in the second league and is therefore unknown on the all-Russian stage. But we produced such football players as Smertin, Kormiltsev, and Mynko.
This year, we are making our debut in the First Division! Therefore, I want to find Heroes fans from cities that are also represented in the First Division. Let's support each other and share information during matches.

http://dreamcatcher.metroland.ru/

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Dirty_Player

4/2/2008 5:29 AM UTC

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Dreamcatcher;166437

Hello to all football fans! We have a Dynamo team in Barnaul, which has always played in the second league and is therefore unknown on the all-Russian stage. But we produced such football players as Smertin, Kormiltsev, and Mynko.
This year, we are debuting in the First Division! Therefore, I want to find Heroes fans from cities that are also represented in the First Division. Let's cheer together and share information during matches.

There is also a team from the First Division called FC Sibir! I am a fan of this team!! I hope our team makes it ;)

Атлант

4/3/2008 8:54 AM UTC

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I'd like to share my opinion about the refereeing of the "highly respected" Shkhina in the match between CS and Lokomotiv. This is a clear example of refereeing when a club from the capital hosts a match against a club from the provinces. The first goal scored by Sukhina in the 82nd minute of the match was scored with a clear violation – dangerous play, and even in the penalty area. The same violation occurred in the first half, but Sukhina remained silent. How can this be called fair? With such refereeing, we can't expect our national team to perform well at Euro 2008. It won't happen. I believe that refereeing should be a professional occupation, like in other countries, and not a secondary profession. We need to get rid of such referees in our championship.

Борьба и единство противоположностей -
вечный двигатель мира сего.

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Слоныш

4/3/2008 4:51 PM UTC

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White Wolf;166675

I'd like to share my opinion about the refereeing of the "highly respected" Shchina in the match between CS and Lokomotiv. This, in my opinion, is a clear example of refereeing when a club from the capital hosts a club from the provinces. The first goal scored by Sukhina in the 82nd minute of the match was scored with a clear violation; it was dangerous play, and it happened right in the penalty area.

There was dangerous play, I agree. And the fact that it was the first goal certainly makes the issue more important – it "changed the course" of the game, so to speak. But why immediately turn everything into a "province vs. capital" issue? Aren't there enough refereeing blunders in derbies? If a referee makes a serious mistake, it "means someone wanted it to happen"... And the question, of course, is not about Moscow snobbery; the question is much more significant.

Атлант

4/3/2008 5:16 PM UTC

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Perhaps this issue is worth discussing, but it reflects the concerns of our fans regarding the refereeing, and with Sukhina as the referee for Samara, it seems that in every match, there are blatant mistakes in favor of the opposing team.

Борьба и единство противоположностей -
вечный двигатель мира сего.

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Слоныш

4/4/2008 1:30 PM UTC

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Remembered – better late than never.
An April Fool's response to Sukhin's actions.:smile40:

Атлант

4/4/2008 1:34 PM UTC

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Thank you, but I read that on the Wings website; I am officially registered there. All the fans are extremely upset with Sukhina's refereeing.

Борьба и единство противоположностей -
вечный двигатель мира сего.

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Слоныш

4/4/2008 1:55 PM UTC

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White Wolf;166962

Thank you, but I read that on the Wings website, I am officially registered there.

Never mind, let others read it too.:)

White Wolf;166962

All fans are extremely upset with Sukhina's refereeing.

But a friend of mine told me that if you watch the replay from the front, not from the side, then it's not so clear-cut.:smile32: I only saw the side view, and in that view, the episode looks like a dangerous play without any ambiguity.