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Which castle, at 200%, can start clearing everything on days 2-3? Perhaps the Tower, but you need gargoyles for that.

Any castle can start clearing everything on day 1.

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Even compared to other castles, Phoenixes in the first week are a significant advantage... :) It's unlikely anyone will withstand it if you set the starting growth rate for sparring...

I wasn't trying to compare the growth of different tiers, and certainly not to suggest comparing them... I was just saying that there is a real possibility of quickly building the last level for several castles, and against this background, the "fast" construction of Phoenixes doesn't seem like a strong argument...

Conflux is great, but the restriction on upgrading monsters in levels 1, 6, and 7 slightly weakens Conflux, making it less appealing to play.

Conflux is great, but the ban on upgrading monsters of levels 1, 6, and 7 slightly weakens Conflux, and playing as it becomes less promising!

Believe me, the prospects are very good. I am ready to play as Conflux with a ban on upgrading levels 1, 6, and 7 against any other Castle, and I absolutely don't think that anyone will have an advantage over me because of the bans, but rather the opposite. The main thing is to have enough ore. What does upgrading the first level give you: fearless fairies? So, killing hordes with one fairy and a ballista is not for online play; the unupgraded ones are already fast, and they have a starting speed of 7, which is the maximum after the Swamp, where winged heroes fly on flies.
Level 6: what's wrong with the unupgraded psionicists? Slower speed? 10 less hit points? Or do the upgraded ones have complete magic immunity? So, what I personally consider a real cheat is the upgraded psionicists. Speed 9, complete magic immunity, and they attack all cells. The unupgraded ones are no longer a cheat, but they are also not weak, as I understand from your statements.
Level 7? From my experience in online games on random maps, I know that it rarely comes to upgrading to level 7. And even if it does, the birds take it with numbers. In addition, if it has come to upgrading to level 7, then by that time the birds can already gather so many angels and build so many hives that it will be a strong, powerful stack for you, and the birds will be for support, first speed, and blocking enemy archers. Which Castle can boast that, on day 121, without mass slow, it can have the maximum number of griffons, besides Necropolis and Dungeon? So, 4 unupgraded birds, 5 unupgraded psionicists, air units, and the rest of the meat can do this; the main thing is to have at least some reserve (it depends on how many air units you have at the start; if there are few, then there may be a reserve of them). This battle is not entirely easy, but it is quite possible if you have enough money on day 121 to buy everything, and the air units with psionicists and birds are strong.
Everything I wrote implies playing on a random map with 160% settings

Everyone knows how much you love playing with Conflux and Necromancer :-)
You're right about level 7, but as for the rest... I think that with the loss of the upgrade, Conflux has lost a lot, but it still has many advantages, such as Storm Riders, for example, and a large number of birds.
I don't quite understand, though, why upgraded Psychics are considered cheating:confused:
But I'm saying that banning upgrades for levels 1, 6, and 7 somehow brings it closer to the other factions! (Although it would be possible to ban the upgrade of ALL monsters from level one to seven)
In my opinion, there will always be arguments, arguments, and more arguments about Conflux :-)

You know, even if we banned upgrading all units in the Conflux, I would still enjoy playing it. The total amount of experience gained from all non-upgraded units generated weekly in the Conflux is greater than from any other castle. The only upgrade I would keep is for the water elementals, as the air elementals are already powerful.

At first glance, Conflux doesn't seem like an overpowered Castle, but I once played against a Dungeon Conflux and got completely crushed. Then I tried to counter it with a Castle, but even the humans didn't stand a chance. Overall, I've come to the conclusion that Conflux is a really powerful Castle and needs to be taken out before Phoenixes are built, otherwise the opportunity is lost!

I read your arguments and would like to ask: Which level 7 unit, with its natural growth rate including Phoenixes, would be stronger if given to two simple heroes with 0 attack and 0 defense? Who would win: 2 Black Dragons against 4 Phoenixes, or 2 Behemoths against 2 Archangels, etc.?

I'm very curious how you manage to play with this Castle without upgrades of levels 1, 6, and 7. I read in one thread that the decisive battle takes place in week 4. But if the passage to another player is guarded by creatures of level 6, or even level 7, how do you defeat them? With magic? Or are you relying on Armageddon? But what if there are Ifrits there? An unupgraded Phoenix is easy prey!

Hmm... not that difficult... =) When you know how... And you can even do it without magic... Well, at least without high-level magic!! Besides, armies usually have angels from griffin conservatories and wyverns from snake hives. Plus captured dragon utopias, Pandora's boxes with creatures, experience, and magic. And there are many other nuances ;)

By week 4, you can really upgrade the BEHEMOTHS, and THEN your PHOENIXES will be LOSING to the BEHEMOTHS!!! And the fact that the total amount of XP of all unupgraded troops from the weekly influx is greater than from any other castle!!! Look at the stats: RUKH vs. Earth Elemental, Fire Elemental vs. Fire Ogre, not to mention the upgraded Behemoths!! And if you BAN the free ANGELS and WIVERNS, then the CONFLUX will be LOSING!!! And the EFREETS can stand in one stack and have 92 attack!!! And when they fly to someone, they won't be gentle!!!!!!

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Oh, you are so wrong.
For example, if you compare levels 4 and 5, compare 1, 2, and 3 with your favorite city, "Stronghold"—that's elemental water, elemental storm—how do you like that? The Conflux, level 2, has stats comparable to level 3... there's a lot more to say.
And here are some personal requests: please don't write in all caps ;).

I won't use all caps, but the water and air elements are vulnerable to spells. Moreover, it can be confidently stated that birds and ogres are at least 40% stronger than their Conflux counterparts, and enhanced hippos are 50-70% stronger, provided they are built in the first week.

Well, it's clear that the Ancient creatures are stronger than Phoenixes (but in terms of raw power; if we consider their usefulness, then... we still need to discuss it further + there will be more Phoenixes + their speed will likely make Phoenixes more useful).

I think Conflux is only effective in the late game, but it can be easily overwhelmed in the early game!

It seems to me that Conflux only rules in the late stages of the game, but it can be easily overwhelmed at the beginning!

Are you kidding??? It's not easy to deal with it in the early stages... Unresponsive, fast fairies... Strong level 2 and 3 creatures...
Okay, I'm just repeating myself... read the whole thread ;)

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In the 4th week, you can really upgrade BEHEMOTHS, and THEN your PHOENIXES will be LOSING to BEHEMOTHS!!! And the fact that the total amount of XP of all unupgraded troops of the weekly growth in Conflux is greater than from any other castle!!! Look at the characteristics: Rukh against Earth Elementals, Ogre Mage against Fire Elementals, not to mention upgraded Behemoths!! And if you FORBID free Angels and Wyverns, then CONFLUX will be losing!!! And Efreet can stand in one stack, and there will be 92 of them!!! And when they fly to someone, it won't be pleasant!

Well... you know... If you're upgrading Behemoths in the 4th week, I'll have cleared half the map by that time, and I'll have upgraded Phoenixes long ago! ;) And in general, Phoenixes have a higher growth rate and huge speed - thanks to this, you can do a lot of interesting things ;) and don't forget about magic... Support for Phoenixes... Fortunately, Conflux has no problems with magic ;)