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Ha! This is what happens when someone tries to go against the faceless masses. They get trampled. What do you care? If you love playing computer games so much that you readily insult someone based on that, then... Well, I'm disappointed in you. At least I am. Yes, I also love Heroes and Stronghold, but it never occurred to me to compare someone to the contents of Ludwig Aristarkhovich's... well, you know. And your downvotes are just laughable to him. He already has -2. New downvotes won't change anything for him. And some other person reads the list, then with a twisted face furiously clicks the downvote button, thinking that they are very original and will bring innovation to the communication. In reality, in an hour, you won't even care about it anymore. But you have sullied yourself with an insult. Culture is certainly not from here. From the outside, it looks like a bunch of thugs trying to put down a weakling. It just gives the impression that you are talking to a bunch of uncouth people, honestly. ...Exz, is this the way of the Haven?
Yes, it is indeed very difficult to endure, but I think it's still possible. After all, it's been nine years.
"Patience is a great virtue, but life is too short to endure for too long." (c) You see, if everyone endures and stays silent, what incentive does a person have to change something in their behavior? And also - tell me, what if not one or two, but ten, twenty, thirty of these "kids" come to the forum? If no one demands that they communicate at an acceptable level, they will continue to behave this way - creating pointless topics, scribbling incoherent posts with terrible mistakes, and fiercely lowering everyone's morale who disagrees with them (and they are the ones who are pitied for having low morale:eek:...they should just die, but look how many people's morale he lowered!). Does anyone want people with this form of communication to feel comfortable here?! Who should change - us to accommodate him, or him to accommodate us? Our forum is distinguished (for now!) by a fairly high level of communication culture, and it is this level that should be maintained, IMHO. And, by the way, he wasn't hit in the ear, but his morale was lowered. I don't think anything fell off him. In fact, morale exists to express approval or disapproval. And if such a large number of people expressed their dissatisfaction with the user, isn't that a reason to think about it? At least for the boy himself. Personally, I will continue to lower his morale until I lose hope for his improvement. However, I will only lower it for good reason. And I'm not going to respond to the dislikes he gave me today - I don't get headaches or back pain from low morale. Dixi.
You have a way with words. Keep going, little bird. These are just empty promises, which you seem to enjoy. Yes, it's clear that this person doesn't care about the downsides, just like they don't care about others. And I can't stand such statements. Especially after your lies about Helm, I don't think you're any better than us, the common folk.
You see, Sandro, it's necessary. It simply has to be done. If not me, then who? Yes, I like using strong words, and more often than not, I back them up with corresponding actions. What's it to you? You couldn't come up with anything better to say than "you're just an idiot"? How can that possibly characterize a person? Clearly, not in a positive way. You claim that there's a relatively high level of communication culture here. And yet, the forum is mired in squabbles, clan rivalries, and constant arguments that devolve into personal attacks. If you truly want good, cultured communication, you need to cultivate mutual respect. If a topic or post of this type irritates you so much, ignore it. If someone starts insulting and attacking everyone, report it to a moderator. But publicly belittling someone for no reason won't achieve anything good. It will only spoil your nerves and theirs, and you'll waste precious time slinging mud at each other. What did the author say just now? That everyone has their own opinion. And I completely agree with that. You can yell at him if you want, when he gives you a reason to, but what right do you have to judge anyone? If you want culture, you must first plant at least the seeds of it. "Just like that," nothing is given in this world; effort is required everywhere. For example, restrain yourself and don't unleash your anger, especially since I don't see anything here that warrants it. Emperor, that's just ridiculous. Grown men and women, as well as teenagers and young adults, are trying to teach something to a little boy. Do you think he'll learn much? No. But you'll just put yourselves in a bad light. And you'll destroy the very foundation of this so-called culture. Do you need that? Do you not have enough squabbles in real life? Do you have a surplus of unused nerves and time? I doubt it. Do something useful. And be more tolerant of people.
You talk a good game. Keep going, little bird. These are just empty words, which you seem to love. Yes, it's clear that this person doesn't care about negative feedback, just like they don't care about others. And I can't stand that kind of statement. Especially after your lies about Helm, I don't think you're any better than us, the average Joe.
Sandro, could you please put the addressee at the beginning of your post, or at least quote the person you're replying to? Your post is after mine; am I supposed to take your words personally?
Catch, you're relatively new to the forum and just don't know this "kid" yet. There are limits to everything, including senseless illiteracy. However, the search function works, so if you want your own unbiased opinion, you can figure it out yourself. Just find all the topics he created and read the comments from other users.
I don't need to know. Do you know what the problem is with those who posted here and gave him negative ratings? The problem is that you can't separate your feelings about the person from the content. He might have been rude to you in another topic, but why give him negative ratings here? You need to be more understanding, don't react so strongly to posts that just express someone's opinion. He doesn't like the first and second heroes, should we kill him for that? :confused: You know, in the real world, there are very few people left who can openly express their opinion; the rest are used to being insincere, flattering, and so on. You're immediately stifling this valuable quality in a child. Teachers, for crying out loud... And most importantly, why? Because he wrote that, in his opinion, these games are the worst ones he's played. He didn't write, "This game sucks, and everyone who plays it is a loser and an idiot!" Why give him negative ratings and write angry posts, I don't understand.
Especially in light of posts like this:
Brackman;120394
But I still stand by my opinion - I don't think this topic is worth paying attention to.
Usually, when someone doesn't think something is worth paying attention to, they just pass by, instead of posting messages with detailed responses and "criticism."
Slonysh;161250
"Patience is a great virtue, but life is too short to be patient for too long." (c)
You see, if everyone tolerates and stays silent, what incentive does a person have to change their behavior? And also - tell me, what if there aren't one or two of these "kids" coming to the forum, but ten, twenty, thirty? If no one demands that they communicate at an acceptable level, they will continue to behave this way - creating meaningless topics, scribbling incoherent posts with terrible mistakes, furiously lowering the Battle Rating (BR) of anyone who disagrees with them (and they are the ones being pitied for having a low BR:eek:...they should be killed, but look how many he lowered the Battle Rating!). Does anyone want people with this kind of communication style to feel comfortable here? Who should change - us to him, or him to us? Our forum is (for now!) distinguished by a fairly high level of communication culture, and that's the level we should adhere to, IMHO.
The culture of the forum is precisely about being culturally respectful of all its visitors. First of all, you need to set a personal example. What's happening here? A young man registers on the forum, possibly for the first time in his life, registers somewhere. He starts writing as best he can. But his posts immediately cause rejection from some visitors. For what reason is another question. They start giving him negative ratings. The young man sees this behavior and thinks that it is the norm. He starts doing the same in response, but instead of that, he starts receiving comments for unjustified lowering of BR. What do you think the child feels? Only a terrible injustice and resentment towards the whole world. And a whole crowd of indignant regulars is attacking the young visitor. Do you think you will correct him this way? It would be much better if one of you took him under your wing, explained to him how he should behave, and told him about the culture of communication on forums.
And, by the way, he wasn't hit in the ear, he had his BR lowered. I don't think anything fell off. In fact, BR exists to express approval or disapproval. And if such a large number of people have expressed their disapproval of the user, isn't that a reason to think about it? At least for the boy himself.
Personally, I will continue to lower his BR until I lose hope for his improvement. However, I will only lower it for good reason. And I'm not going to respond to the negative ratings he gave me today - a low BR doesn't give me a headache or a backache.
Dixi.
BR exists to express approval or disapproval of a message, not of a user. If you don't like him, that's not a reason to give him negative ratings every time he opens his mouth.
And in general, haven't we all been like that? Don't you remember yourselves at that age? Don't you remember your inner world? A child's psyche is very fragile, and it can be damaged very easily by any carelessly spoken word, and it's very difficult to restore it...
Catch, the whole argument stems from the fact that in his first post, he initially listed Heroes 1 and 2, and then simply deleted it and listed other games...
Хороший сон укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошая еда укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошие деньги укрепляют боевой дух. А больше всего укрепляет боевой дух - отсутствие врага.
You know, it's actually not that difficult to imagine such a turn of events... The guy is only 9 years old, while most other forum members are older than 14. Have you ever interacted with a 9-year-old boy? Personally, I wouldn't be able to have a normal conversation; the age difference is too great. And I'm not even talking about the older forum members... In general, I just wouldn't want to see another round of debates in this thread. This is a forum where people communicate and "get closer" (not in a literal sense). And arguments and bickering don't improve your opinion of the person you're arguing with; quite the opposite. And that's not good...
And the most interesting thing is that almost every serious argument is related to downvoting. We've been asking for a long time not to take negative votes too seriously, because it's just an expression of disagreement. If Mantikora said that Heroes 1 and 2 are among the five worst games, then those who downvoted him were simply expressing their disagreement with him. But we need to fight against unjustified downvoting with comments and the help of the administration.
I once disagreed with Volk Valhalla that downvotes can provoke arguments, and suggested that, on the contrary, arguments lead to downvotes. However, now I agree with him, at least in this situation, the discussion flared up precisely because of the downvoting...
In general, I suggest we remember one of the favorite characters from domestic cartoons - Leopold the Cat, and simply end the discussion with the phrase "let's live in peace." The started argument will not lead to anything, no matter what, everyone will still stick to their own opinion. Or do you really want to express yourself?
O God of Earth and Altar, Bow down and hear our cry, Our earthly rulers falter, Our people drift and die, The walls of gold entomb us, The swords of scorn divide, Take not thy thunder from us, Take away our pride.
Here's an interesting fact: some users are mass-reporting posts for any reason... It seems like the people doing this aren't actually that much older – it's like in a class, there's a chubby kid, and everyone kicks him, insults him, and ignores him, etc.
Хороший сон укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошая еда укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошие деньги укрепляют боевой дух. А больше всего укрепляет боевой дух - отсутствие врага.
If you are so annoyed by a topic or post of this kind, ignore it. If a person starts insulting and cursing everyone, report it to a moderator. But publicly putting down a person for no reason will not achieve anything good. It will only spoil your nerves and his, and you will waste precious time arguing with each other.
So, it turns out that he has the right to express his opinion, but we don't, is that it?
Emperor, this is just funny. Grown men and women, as well as teenagers and young people, are trying to explain something to a little boy.
If he has come to the forum, he should understand that he needs to communicate at a proper level, following the accepted rules of conduct on the forum, and not get offended by negative ratings and give them to everyone who offended him, but ask for the reason for the negative ratings, think about whether he might have been wrong, and so on. If he is too young to understand this, he should not go to a forum where there are "grown men and women, and young people and teenagers," but look for a forum "for himself" - the forum should not bend over backwards for one person.
Do you think you will correct him this way? It would be much better if one of you took him under your wing, explained to him how to behave, and told him about the culture of communication on forums.
Considering that he knows how to set an avatar and edit the data panel, it is unlikely that this is his first forum (I didn't quote, but I think it's clear what I mean), and if he understands all this, then he is unlikely to be so stupid as not to pay attention to the local "style" of communication, so most likely he just doesn't want to follow it.
You know, it's not that difficult to assume such a turn of events... The boy is only 9 years old, while most other forum members are older than 14. Have you ever seen and tried to communicate with a 9-year-old boy? Personally, I wouldn't be able to communicate normally, the age difference is too big.
Especially annoying is the fact that the current youth has no basic respect for elders (I don't have it either - I respect a person not for his age, but for his personal qualities and/or skills), and this boy doesn't even have that...
In general, I suggest remembering one of the favorite characters from domestic cartoons - Leopold the Cat, and simply end the discussion with the pretext of "let's live in peace." The started argument will not lead to anything, no matter how hard you try, everyone will still stick to their opinion. Or do you just want to express yourself?
I won't lie - you're right, but I want to express my opinion.
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
The culture of the forum lies precisely in the respectful attitude towards all its visitors. First of all, one should set a personal example. What is happening here? A young man registers on the forum, possibly for the first time in his life. He starts writing, as best he can. But his posts immediately cause rejection from some visitors. For what reason is another question. They start giving him negative ratings. The young man sees this behavior and thinks that it is generally accepted. He begins to do the same in response, but instead receives reprimands for unjustified reduction of his rating. What do you think the child feels at this moment? Only monstrous injustice and resentment towards the whole world. Moreover, a whole crowd of indignant regulars attacks the young visitor. Do you think this is how you will correct him? It would be much better if one of you took him under your wing, explained to him how he should behave, and told him about the culture of communication on forums.
Catch, your position reminds me of the fight against racism in the USA. That is, the "oppressors" no longer know where to go from the "oppressed." Do you even notice that our dear little one is reducing everyone's rating in the entire topic, while you, with an apostolic look, call for forgiveness? This is not humanism, but indulgence! When a child eats not with a spoon, but with his hands, he is taught, not told: "Oh, well, he's small, what can you do with him..." He will remain "small" if no one points out his mistakes. And believe me, many users have tried to reason with him gently and kindly. But nothing changes - he behaves the same way, and this gentleness doesn't help, it's obvious to everyone. Here is another one of his topic. How can you even communicate on a forum where such a user is raging (sorry, but this is the most accurate epithet!)? Now this Anika-warrior has declared war on me and is reducing my rating for every message. It seems that it is me who can no longer write on the forum, and not him, dear defender of the rights of spammers, Catch!Catch;161281
The rating exists to express approval or disapproval of a message, not of the user. If you don't like him, that's not a reason to give him negative ratings for every word he says.
What was the point of this (undoubtedly fair) phrase, for example? Yes, everyone disliked that a person created a topic about how the 1st and 2nd Heroes games are the worst. And for this topic and this message, his rating was reduced. Not for a bad hairstyle or some age (by the way, I usually don't care about the user's age), but specifically for the messages. Or now, for every negative rating given to him, will he have to explain, proving that it is not out of personal dislike, but for the message?Catch;161281
And in general, haven't we all been like that? Don't you remember yourself at that age? Don't you remember your inner world?
Catch, when I was 9, I didn't break into a symposium and start making absurd speeches, interrupting the speakers. The analogy is extremely simple and clear, I think? If a person can only communicate at this level, he has no place here. There are many forums with appropriate users, let him start with them. But the fact that our forum should take care of an aggressive child, you have not convinced me, I'm sorry. He is not the only child here, by the way. But he is the only enfant terrible.
You don't seem to notice that our dear little one is reducing everyone's BD, while you, with an apostolic look, call for forgiveness? This is not humanism, but indulgence! When a child eats not with a spoon, but with his hands, he is taught, and not told: "Oh, well, he's small, what can you do..."
I see that he is reducing BD in response to the fact that his BD was reduced. This is natural for a child's mind, but the older he gets, the more likely it is to be a pathology ;) And normal parents don't hit a child on the hands when he eats with his hands ;) They explain it to him in words, and not with insults ;)
Or now, for every minus he receives, will he have to account for it, proving that it is not out of personal dislike, but for the message?
Well, for now, that's exactly the impression it gives :)
Catch, when I was 9, I didn't break into a symposium with my father and start making nonsensical speeches, interrupting the speakers. The analogy is extremely simple and clear, I think?
Do I need to explain the difference between a forum and a symposium? ;) The analogy here is a bit inappropriate. A forum is a place for free communication. If a user violates the forum rules, he is banned. If he is not banned, then he is not such a violator. The forum is not closed. On what basis did you organize the harassment of one of its users? Understand, this primarily does not make all of you big and smart boys, girls, uncles, and aunts look good.
Yeah, there's trash and mediocrity in my sector too((((
If we're talking about the topic, what are the 5 worst games? How can you determine the 5 worst games when Russia alone releases about 200 trash projects a year? We only have one decent developer, Nival (who hasn't released any trash yet), and one publisher, Snowball. All the others mostly produce trash. And if the author considers the games he listed to be trash, and if Stronghold 1 is a bad game for him, then I can only be happy for him; he hasn't played any good games.
Age: 9
It's clear, the accusation is dropped, although I agree with the "elephant" comment. At nine years old, I didn't do that. At least, I could understand when I was talking nonsense and when I was making sense, which is clearly not the case for the author. Although, in principle, age doesn't matter; you can be an idiot at 18 and say sensible things at 9. I remember a ten-year-old kid on the sonyps3 forum who communicated in such a way that you couldn't tell if he was joking or if he was really 10.
P.S. I'm surprised why no one has closed this thread. Besides the flood, off-topic comments (after all, the topic isn't called *Discussion of MANTIKOra*), and insults, I don't see anything else here. Of course, even though the section is called "flood," there should still be some limits. The topic has run its course and needs to be closed. P.P.S. Okay, I'll write down my 5 favorite games for the last time. Action: COD4 is undoubtedly a masterpiece and game of the year, just like Kane & Lynch. The best characters and vibrant gameplay (at least, escaping from prison in a career dump truck wasn't a thing in games before). RTS: Without a doubt, Sins of a Solar Empire is an incredibly original, engaging, and challenging strategy game. Chess is on the sidelines; Sid Meier (Civilization) hasn't lost his talent. Warhammer Soulstorm is confidently following Solar Empire, and then there's the ghostly StarCraft 2. Turn-based strategy: No, not Heroes, but King's Bounty 2 without a doubt! RPG: Unfortunately, there aren't any good RPGs coming out this year, only Sacred 2((( but The Witcher is the best, and in general, of course, Mass Effect, but it hasn't been ported to PC yet((( we're waiting. Simulator: Hehe, the new S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky))) This is no longer an action game but a simulator of a stalker's life.
Although, these are just recent games, and if I start to remember....
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This user lowered Alucard's morale for this message: MANTIKOra (Today)
Well, why are you biting me, you biting beast))))) I didn't insult you, but you went for Uncle Alucard's most important place, his... his head!!))) I was already being as gentle as possible, otherwise, I could give a master class on the topic of "Turning a noob into a hardcore player" with profanity and complex grammatical constructions)))) P.S. Hehe, I'm starting to like this, hehehe P.P.S. A small question, did you even read what I wrote ;)))))