The release date of the expansion pack is approaching. — Tournament Edition / TE

Phenix3

2/8/2008 3:24 PM UTC

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Wicc, thanks for the link, it contains interesting information... although you can arrive at similar conclusions even without it...
As for your previous post, I don't think it's appropriate for this discussion... the problem is that the question itself is not quite correctly posed here... and it's no longer entirely clear what is being discussed...
Therefore, I urge everyone to stop this discussion and do the following:
1.1 If you want to discuss the differences between SoD and TE and you have read the TE manual:
a) create a corresponding topic, for example, "Why I like..."
or "What TE changes would I choose"
b) write in the topic everything you know about this and, accordingly, the result from this
c) wait for similar answers, either agreement with your opinion or discussions on specific issues (without deviating from the topic)
1.2 There is no desire to discuss anything:
a) read what others are writing
b) continue playing what you like or everything in general
1.3 You want to discuss, but you haven't read the TE manual:
a) read it
b) read what those who have read it are writing (without interfering in the discussions until you figure something out)
2. Vote for certain TE options, create your own poll, or start a topic if you think something needs more attention
3. Prepare for testing TE under the most acceptable conditions for this community
4. If you want to help organize a tournament
5. Etc.

є(°¤°)э Мадара где-то рядом...

ewgeniy

2/8/2008 4:21 PM UTC

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My patience didn't last long :D

the problem is that the question itself is not quite correctly formulated here...

this is a subjective opinion

"What changes would I choose?"

the base for this version doesn't necessarily have to be ToE (The Eastern Expansion).

If there is a desire to discuss the differences between SoD (Stronghold of the East) and ToE

There is a desire to play SoD with the ToE interface.

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

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RAPER

2/8/2008 5:29 PM UTC

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well... this is my opinion... the tech team doesn't want there to be anything in between – they are actively campaigning for either SOD or TE... But I will ask them not to do that... maybe Dream's idea is a radical change in the Heroes world – Heroes 3 online... (dreaming: maybe in 5 years, everyone will only play this version).

играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)

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Horn

2/8/2008 5:33 PM UTC

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Oh, it's been a long time since I was last here! :rolleyes:

I won't go into too much detail; Ley and Wicc have already said everything above. As for a gradual transition to TE via an intermediate version—sorry, I don't believe it.

ewgeniy;150180

There is a desire to play SoD with the TE interfaceWell, who's stopping anyone? As I understand it, Dreamcatcher already knows what and how needs to be done to achieve the required result.
And as for me, when I have the time, I will work on a new version of TE. To each their own. :cool:

RAPER

2/8/2008 5:46 PM UTC

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wow wow wow ;);))
the grandmaster Horn himself ;)
yeah, it's been a while since I last visited ;)...

I don't believe in a gradual transition to TE through an intermediate version, sorry.

- I just said that I'm only dreaming ;)););)
in reality, my opinion is the same as yours ;)

To each their own.

But I don't rule out the possibility of creating a hybrid - to be honest, I think the editor is missing 3 things.... namely
1) moving the army with one button
2) splitting into units of 1 with one button
3) hourglasses =))(in my opinion - I really like them... at least the opponent "appreciates" (if you can say so) the opponent's time) ;)

играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)

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Phenix3

2/8/2008 5:59 PM UTC

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RAPER;150203

1) army transfer with 1 button
2) splitting into 1s with 1 button
3) hourglass

and what don't you like:
4) changing the starting skills of elementalists - you ban them anyway (this way there will be more to choose from)
5) necro-patch - necros in SoD are almost invincible...
6) 2 starting buildings in the city always - in SoD it can be from 0-2 depending on luck

є(°¤°)э Мадара где-то рядом...

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Armagedda

2/8/2008 7:51 PM UTC

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RAPER;150203

To be honest, I feel like something is missing in the game... specifically:
1) Moving the entire army with one button.
2) Splitting the army into single units with one button.
3) The hourglass timer (in my opinion, I really like it... at least it makes the opponent "respect" (if you can call it that) the opponent's time). ;)

I think you're being a little... dishonest. If it were just those things that were missing, there wouldn't be so many prohibitions and restrictions in your tournament rules. You play by these rules here, right?

RAPER

2/8/2008 8:19 PM UTC

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I think you're being a little... evasive. If it were just those few things, your tournament rules wouldn't have so many prohibitions and restrictions.

Well... what are these major prohibitions???
Is Conflux prohibited? Are there restrictions on certain heroes...? These... well, that's standard for SOD, to prevent overpowered strategies.

4) Changing the starting skills of Elementals - you ban them anyway (so there would be something to choose from)
5) Necromancer patch - Necromancers are almost unbeatable in SOD...
6) 2 starting buildings in a city always - in SOD, there can be 0-2, depending on luck.

I asked you not to promote TE... I know what it is and how it works, because I play it too.
I still prefer to ban Conflux, even in TE.
About Necromancers... I've already said, it all depends on the player's skill. If the player is weak, Necromancers aren't any more scary than a sleepy cat. But if it's a pro, then yes... you'll have to fight. And even then, you can compete with legions of skeletons.
Buildings... hmm, yes, I forgot about that. It would also be good to add that to SOD... Or, at worst, you can restart if it's that important - whether you have level 2 or not (because in some castles, level 2 is essential for further development)

играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)

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AndreyALN

2/9/2008 12:12 PM UTC

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For those who still want to participate and aren't afraid to play on the full version of TE, registration is now open for the third largest Heroes tournament on TE, naturally with fixes. There's also the possibility of traveling to St. Petersburg after the tournament (here, there are real prizes in addition to the fun and socializing, and probably poker as always).
http://forum.heroesleague.ru/viewtopic.php?t=8540

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RetroFM

6/18/2008 4:23 PM UTC

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StickyFingaz;148427

Dreamcatcher, what principle was used to create the list of things that can and should be disabled? In my opinion, #1 and #5 are the best parts of TE!

Firstly... This is already a different game... If you enjoy it, you'll find a place where people play TE. This is what Chaos introduced back in the day. The downsides... are that newcomers will play SOD. After all, TE isn't sold anywhere...

I think that for SOD, a program for quickly transferring armies should be written, and there's no need for TE!!!

I understand that the "bayevtsy" (players who frequent the online lobby) want to gradually attract a lot of people to their side! And that's it!

Sincerely, Eugene.

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Dirty_Player

6/18/2008 4:35 PM UTC

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RetroFM;182042

I think that for SoD, a program for fast army transfer needs to be written and NAX doesn't need any TE !!!

Whoever makes this happen can boldly be given a Nobel Prize!!

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RetroFM

6/18/2008 4:35 PM UTC

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Armagedda;150282

I think you're being a little... dishonest :). If it were just those things that were lacking, your tournament rules wouldn't have so many prohibitions and restrictions. You play by these rules here, right?

Regarding the prohibitions... You know... Many of the prohibitions seem outdated to me... A game is a game... If someone needs balance, let them play chess. I think there's still a specialist in vivas who is the most cheater among you, and he should be banned and not allowed to play against... I really don't like him... Especially after playing "In the Wake of Gods."

Thank you for your attention...

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invisible

6/18/2008 5:22 PM UTC

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Whoever accomplishes this deserves a Nobel Prize!

+1

an expert in Vivs, who has the most overpowered one and should be banned and not allowed against opponents...

+1
The experts in monsters and their upgrades are something else. I read the reports and I'm amazed. What can you do against Bronkhilda with 150 150-hit Vivs =))), or against Galtran with 1000+ 20-hit skeletons. It will be interesting to see how the opponent's black dragon won't be able to kill a well-upgraded Pokémon:)
To each their own...

Я ламер и играть не умею, нах!:smile33:

ewgeniy

6/18/2008 5:38 PM UTC

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Yes, there's a lot of chatter, but nobody can actually do anything.
Discussion is all well and good, but who would actually take on writing the "TE interface app for SoD"? If there are no volunteers, then there's nothing to discuss...

To each their own

The Nazis had a sense of humor too...(Seryozha - nothing personal)

Клан"Homo Homini":smile19: Полезные ссылки:smile01:

В. Уэйтс©

Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.

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invisible

6/18/2008 5:57 PM UTC

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Yes, there's a lot of talk, but no one can actually do anything.

If it were up to me, I would do it! And by bringing up this issue for the ...th time, which has already been discussed many times, we are drawing the attention of many players to it (there are more and more newcomers on the forum lately). Perhaps among them there will be a good programmer who has the time and desire to implement it. Quick troop exchange is a VERY important component of online games. I am sure that many hundreds of players will be grateful to the person who can do it!