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Offline Kamikaze
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And who should we turn to with such questions? Ideally, it should be HOMM1 right now, but VDV isn't available. And it won't be available very soon... we need to come up with something. The tournament must happen

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Who should I turn to with such questions?
To the organizers of other parts or simply forum members with similar experience: Kyle, Qwerty, Alan, Ley, etc., and Kamikaze.
The tournament should be held.
I'm all for it. Maybe with the start of the new tournament, they will award medals in the overall standings for the old one.
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Maybe I missed something, but will the VK tournament be held this year?

As Qwerty has repeatedly stated, the VK tournament is entirely the merit of LZMS, so please contact them. I hope they will hold it this year as well, but this time on their own, and also announce it in the thread of each tournament.
Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.
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Guys, what are you waiting for? Let's take everything into our own hands! Who's stopping us?! If we just sit and wait for someone to do something for us, we'll never get anywhere!
So, let's start in March! We've already missed February, waiting for a miracle! Stage 1: Heroes 1! Since VDV is unavailable, I suggest that **Kamikaze** takes charge... after all, he's the modder for Heroes 1! Qwerty can handle Heroes 2, Ley or Ada can handle Heroes 3, I'll handle Heroes 4, and Adelaide can handle Heroes 5, if no one else takes the initiative... Basically, I'm saying that everything is in our hands! We need to act, not just discuss... otherwise, the year will pass by!

Best regards, Luchik


"Как это странно всегда..
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As Qwerty has repeatedly stated, the "Tournaments" are entirely the merit of LZMS; you should contact them. I hope they will hold it again this year, but this time on their own, and also announce it in the thread for each tournament.
So, I must have missed something, because it didn't even occur to me that LZMS had anything to do with the "Tournaments." If Qwerty wrote that (I don't read all the threads), it's at least surprising. Because you organized 5 stages, VDV Forever organized 3 (of course, he is formally a member of a clan that is part of LZMS, but he didn't seem to be involved in the League itself), Lu41k organized 1 (the same), AlexeyPank organized 1, and Kyle, who was helping out, is the only organizer who can really be attributed to LZMS. But even if we assume that the last two acted exclusively on behalf of LZMS, which is highly doubtful, their role was still important, but not absolutely decisive. In general, for someone like me, an ordinary forum user (I don't chat, I'm not in a clan, I just organize tournaments), LZMS seems like a phantom organization: it seems to exist, it seems that its purpose is more or less clear, but it's not clear what it does. Personally, I believe that the "Tournaments" of 2007 were organized by a small group of individual enthusiasts, and I am very grateful to them for that. The first attempt turned out to be a success, a rather large and interesting tournament, a unique phenomenon in the world of "Heroes." 2Lu41k
So. Let's start in March! We've already missed February, waiting for divine inspiration! Stage 1 for "Heroes 1"! In the absence of VDV, I suggest Kamikaze take everything into his own hands.
VDV Forever promised to return at the end of February, i.e., in theory, he will be able to organize a stage in March, but I think that starting in March is too late, because we need to keep the "World War" in mind. A delay in one of the stages, and the tournaments will overlap significantly. If people decide to participate, it's better to start as soon as possible, even if not on the first day, but in February, IMHO.
Guys, what are you waiting for? Let's take everything into our own hands! Who is stopping us?! If we just sit and wait for someone to do something for us, we won't get anything.
A brilliant idea, pure brilliance.
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Well, we could start in February, I'm all for it! I just thought that February had already begun, and organizing everything still takes time! It's not good to prepare everything in a rush; remember what happened with my stage... I prepared it in the last few days, everything was rushed + I had no experience, and it turned out to be a complete mess, the map was bad, and there were many other shortcomings... Oh well, at least I jumped right in! I'm saying that if we're going to start in February, we need to start preparing everything today! In short, we're waiting for interested parties and their opinions!
I urge everyone to express their opinion! Because there is no time to delay!

Sincerely, Luchik!


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Of course, we shouldn't delay this any further... I can definitely organize a Clan War involving 3 heroes, but unfortunately, not as quickly as I'd like. I suggest that everyone who has already planned to organize a Clan War in the near future should speak up – this will determine which part of the game the first Clan War will be held in.

Personally, I will have to decline participation in several tournaments, but organizing a Clan War is a worthwhile endeavor that requires a separate time commitment. And I have no doubt that what is more important – participating in a tournament or organizing a Clan War.
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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I just thought that February had already started, and it still takes time to organize everything! It's not good to prepare everything in a hurry; remember what happened with my stage... I prepared it in the last few days, everything was rushed + I had no experience, and it turned out to be a complete mess.
And indeed, it was a mess. Not only did no one complain (except for General Z, who was largely to blame himself), but it also had a record number of participants for the fourth installment, which was a joy for other parts as well, and it almost reached the level of the third installment. Horrible.
and the map was bad
Yeah, it allowed both leaders to shine and beginners to complete it normally. Horrible. Horrible.

Lu, if you're going to die from something, don't let it be from modesty.
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I apologize, I should have realized that I should be involved in organizing the first stage. So, congratulations!

Well, let's get started. Just give me a moment to catch my breath.
I think we should start the tournament... today is February 7th... around the 12th, and finish on March 5th. The second stage (from Qwerty) can start the next day and finish on time.
And in the meantime, I'll come up with something for the individual matches.

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Kamikaze, well, that's great:smile12:
So, the first stage is almost ready! Qwerty will handle the second one, I hope he won't refuse! Ley has taken on the third one; I'll say that I'm taking on the fourth one, and we just need to decide on the fifth... But it's already clear that Van Kanigem will be there:smile49: Which makes me personally very happy :)


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Вроде бы взрослые люди,
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As Kamikaze suggested, each stage will last 26 days, plus or minus a couple of days, but this extra couple of days won't affect the start of the next stage, let alone the discussion of these tournaments. So, I fully support it! This makes it easy to see an approximate schedule for the Van Kannegem Memorial Tournament series :):

First stage of the Van Kannegem Memorial Tournament for Heroes 1 -
Approximate timeframe: February 12th to March 5th-7th

Second stage of the Van Kannegem Memorial Tournament for Heroes 2 -
Approximate timeframe: March 5th-7th to March 31st/April 2nd

Third stage of the Van Kannegem Memorial Tournament for Heroes 3 -
Approximate timeframe: March 31st/April 2nd to April 26th-28th

Fourth stage of the Van Kannegem Memorial Tournament for Heroes 4 -
Approximate timeframe: April 26th-28th to May 21st-23rd

Fifth stage of the Van Kannegem Memorial Tournament for Heroes 5 -
Approximate timeframe: May 21st-23rd to June 15th-17th

and so on.

This is just an approximation :), of course, adjustments to the schedule are inevitable, but following this approximate schedule, it will be easy to be ready for the next "best of the best" ;)

Sincerely, Ley.
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1 - AlexeyPank, the only organizer who can truly be considered part of the LZMС. But even if we assume that the last two acted solely on behalf of LZMС, which is highly doubtful, their role was still important, but not absolutely decisive.
Hmm... considering that Alexey Pank is the author of the very idea of the VK tournament, he came up with it, defended the idea, and started promoting and implementing it, we can say that everyone else was "supporting" him ;) (No offense). So, his role was ABSOLUTELY DECISIVE!!! If it weren't for him, none of this would have happened. I'm sad that the merits are forgotten so quickly :( :( :(
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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I have great respect for AlexeyPank, so I will answer.
Hmm... it's true, considering that Alexey Pank is the author of the idea for the ВК tournament; he came up with it.
He proposed the idea; that's undeniable.
He defended the idea and started promoting and implementing it.
Defended it? From whom? He was immediately supported. VDV Forever promised to take on the maps for rounds 1 and 3, Qwerty for round 2, and Strannik for round 4. The only dispute was about the method of determining the winner, but that was also resolved without him and with due respect to Alexey.
You could say that everyone else was "supporting" him (no offense).
The main effort and time are spent on running the tournaments. You can try it yourself if you have the time.
So, his role was ABSOLUTELY DECISIVE!!! If it weren't for him, none of this would have happened.
I won't argue whether his role was simply great or absolutely decisive. But it was HIS role, not the role of LZMS. Was the idea of holding the ВК tournament initially considered at an LZMS meeting? Were the hosts nominated from the clan movement, etc.? Or is the action of any LZMS member (in fact, any clan member) attributed to the League?
That is, if I invent a time machine, will the embroidery club I organize have patent rights to it?
I'm sad that merits are forgotten so quickly.
I'm sad that merits are appropriated so quickly.
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I'll say this myself. I personally believe that the merit of LZMS (and what is that?) is practically nonexistent. The merit for the accomplishment, and now also for the continuation of this Great, and I won't be afraid to use this grand word, tournament, belongs entirely and completely, as one smart guy said:
Personally, I believe that VK 2007 was organized by a small circle of individual enthusiasts, and I give them all my deepest respect. The first attempt wasn't a failure, but rather a quite massive and interesting tournament, a unique phenomenon in the world of Heroes.
. Yes, a very accurate formulation. And the main people among these were AlexeyPank (the author of the scenario), Alan (the most active organizer), and VDV_Forever (another activist!). My deepest respect and gratitude to them for what they have done!!!

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So, when does it start? I suggest a great map for 1 hero – "THE QUEST FOR THE KNIGHT"... even in the old version, you couldn't afford to make mistakes at the highest difficulty level, and now, in the new version, even more so.
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