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OFFLINE TOURNAMENT for Heroes 4 «New World: The Secret of the Red Cube»


1. To participate in the offline tournament for Heroes 4 «New World: The Secret of the Red Cube», you must register on our website and also submit an application in this thread.

2. This tournament is unofficial.

3. The tournament will be held on the Russian version of Heroes 4: "Winds of War" from Buky. The save will be generated on the Russian version.

4. The goal of the game is to unravel the secret of the red cube.

The result will be evaluated primarily based on the shortest time. If several players have the same completion time, the best will be determined by points. If a favorite cannot be determined even then, first place will be shared.

5. Tournament Rules:

1) The use of cheat codes is prohibited during the standard playthrough of the save.

2) Discussion of the tournament on the forum during its duration is PROHIBITED!!!
(Players who violate this rule will automatically be disqualified, their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

3) The player must save intermediate saves after each turn during the tournament.

4) Send the final save to the email address Lu41k@yandex.ru. The sent save must contain the participant's number from the application table, the abbreviation NW («New World»). Example: 1_NW_General ZeT.h4s.

5) Everything else is allowed!

6. The tournament starts on January 13 and will last until February 5 (inclusive). The results will be announced on February 10, 2008.

7. After receiving your save, you will see in the list of participants that:

save accepted - by Bold Nick

This list can be supplemented with new participants! We invite everyone to take part in the tournament!

Saves will only be accepted from players who are on the list, so submit your applications IN ADVANCE!!!
LIST OF PARTICIPANTS
NUMBERPLAYER NICK
1 Koren_Dobra
2 Psixxx
3 Kourai
4 65RUS
5 K510i
6 Brackman7 LeSHiJ-MaX8 Asimon9 Lord Vampire10Necromancher11WOLVARINE12KENNU13MUJIOPD14Brigadir


Everything about the starting save

1. Download the save.

2. The downloaded save must be placed in the GAMES folder of your installed Heroes 4 on your computer.

3. Load it and start the game at any time that is convenient for you, while remembering to make daily saves.

4. After completing the last action (after which the victory occurs), you must save again.

7. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).

8. Wait for the results to be announced.

Additional information: This map has an experimental nature. On this map, you do not need to fight and level up your hero. The goal is to find three specific gargoyle statues and approach them at the shortest distance. To unravel the secret of the Red Cube, you must approach these three statues in a specific sequence. The problem is that there are also 105 ordinary statues.

The tournament is organized with the support of Lu41k and takes place on a map created by me
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Leshy, I've registered you under my number 7, may it bring you luck :) I won't participate, since I'm accepting saves, and I honestly don't have time to play through them... You know why :)

The nicknames of the participants whose saves I received are highlighted in bold! The rest, please hurry!

Sincerely, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Could you please tell me when the tournament results will be available? :smile13:
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I apologize, but I came home after work today, so the results aren't ready yet! Please be patient. ;)


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Lu41k;149407
I apologize, but I came home after work today, so the results aren't ready yet! Please be patient. ;)

:smile25: We'll wait, then. ;)
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Well, I've checked all your saves... The results turned out to be quite interesting and uniform :) A lot of winners and only one second place :) As Zet said, in case of a tie, 1st place will be shared. Resources are not taken into account in this tournament...
Well, congratulations to all the winners :smile49:
Brackman, oh, where did you lose just one day? :smile39:
"New World: The Mystery of the Red Cube"
Number
Participant
Days
Points
1
Psixxx
26
338
1
LeSHiJ-MaX
26
338
1
Asimon
26
338
1
K510i
26
338
1
Necromancher
26
338
1
Lord Vampire
26
338
2
Brackman
27
338

Sincerely, Luchik!


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Lou, where am I? (30 characters))))))))))
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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Oh, sorry, I forgot about your save file. :(
I'll fix it right away. :) Sorry, Vampire. :)


"Как это странно всегда..
Вроде бы взрослые люди,
А в голове ерунда..
Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
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Based on my calculations, there could have been around 18 movement points left before the final move. But neither on the day of the victory nor when the map was revealed was this minor detail noted.
Colleagues, please let us know how many unused movement points you had left. It would be interesting to know if Psixxx's suggestion to count the remaining moves would have prevented the equalization?
I am not useless - I can be used as a bad example!
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Based on my calculations, there could have been about 18 movement points left before the final move. But neither on the day of the win, nor when unlocking the map, was it possible to convey such a small detail.
Colleagues, please let us know how many unused movement points you had left. I'm curious, if Psixxx's suggestion to count the remaining moves had been adopted, would it have prevented the equalization?
I had 0 movement points left. I couldn't manage to have even a few left. But maybe someone else did?
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Undergrounder;150197
In my opinion, you could have around 18 movement points in reserve before the last move.
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Is this before opening the cube or when you approach the sign and the game ends?
Standing in front of the sign and before taking the last step, I have 4 movement points left:o
If it's after opening the cube, then 22:o
P.S. Tell me, where did you buy the potions:D.
С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"
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Standing in front of the sign and before taking the last step, I have 3 turns remaining. Apparently, LeSHiJ-MaX reduced the number of turns by 1 somewhere.
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Yeah, thanks. So, Psixxx's suggestion would still improve the situation somewhat. It would be nice if someone could explain what the stated experiment was all about.
LeSHiJ-MaX;150360
Is this before opening the cube or when you approach the sign and the game ends?
You're mistaken, the cube is opened on the 25th day :) There are 18 moves left when the bird is at point 156,164 - right next to the target. But I think you and K510i, with 3-4 moves, should be very surprised, because the map is designed for exactly 26 days, and the victory should occur on the last move. It's a different matter that this precise calculation is made for incorrect actions. What to consider a "straight" move and what to consider a "diagonal" move with Heroes' diagonal coordinates is a complete mess. It's easier to call moves "short" and "long". Long is equal to 1.5 short. Not 1.4142, not 1.45 (and I've seen such a statement), but exactly 1.5 - one and a half. The gargoyle's base movement is 29, the terrain penalty is 1.25, 29/1.25 = 23.2. Looking closely at the movements, we see that it can actually move 23.5 steps per day, in this case, 23.2 is rounded up. If you trust the Heroes' route planner, most daily moves will be straight, consisting of moves of the same value - either 1 or 1.5. So, the gargoyle will move either 23*1 = 23, or 15*1.5 = 22.5 moves, and the remainder is simply lost. And the whole remaining task is not to waste time. Go either (22*1 + 1.5) = 23.5, or (15*1.5 + 1) = 23.5. Of course, you need to calculate not only the current day, but also a little ahead, so that a crooked move at the end of the day is in the right direction.
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[...] - this is my map, and no one will complete this map faster than me, they can only tie.
If you count in full days, then I agree :D That's why I didn't play it.
I am not useless - I can be used as a bad example!
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Read it 5 times, sorry, didn't understand:(
:D Since you won't say where you found the bottles, tell me:
1. If there's no penalty, will your calculations make sense?
2. Will they be affected when the hero walks with an upgraded scouting skill?
:D And the most interesting thing:
ENLIGHTEN a clueless person.
You can send it to my email, or better yet, post a couple of turns here (I think everyone will be interested) that will make it clear what you're talking about.:D
С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"
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I've read it 5 times, sorry, I didn't understand:(
:D If you don't want to say where you found the bottles, tell me:D
1. If there is no penalty, your calculations will make sense.
2. Will they affect the hero's movement with a developed scouting skill?
:D And the most interesting thing:D.
ENLIGHTEN a dark person.
You can send it by email, or better, post a couple of turns here (I think everyone will be interested) that will make it clear what you are talking about.:D
I'm not very good at explaining.
Even a glass is enough, it's simple :)
1 - yes
2 - what will sway where? Probably yes...
In short: if you have 23.5, then just use all 23.5, and not 22.5 or 23, which the router suggests.

I don't remember exactly, maybe the last two turns are messed up - I was studying different options.
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Thank you. I compared your first turn and my turn, and everything became clear right away:D :D :D I don't even know how many glasses I owe you:D :D :D I only used 23.5 when it was 22.5 (it was just visible, with the numbers showing the remaining moves).
С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"

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