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To be honest, the fifth installment disappointed me a bit. Before you start throwing flowers in pots and rotten tomatoes at me, please read to the end. Yes, the graphics are gorgeous, kudos for the Castles, the unit models are magnificent... and it's precisely regarding the units that I have a slight unpleasant aftertaste. What the developers did here with the Human faction is unforgivable. When the game was first announced, I had high hopes. I thought that they, of all people, would show what the ideal image of medieval humanity should be. I imagined a gloomy, but not sinister, industrial city, spewing smoke from numerous forges and furnaces, and a technologically advanced (within the framework of medieval fantasy, of course) army: crossbowmen, arquebusiers, ballistae... But no! They completely immersed the Humans in a Christian-like religion! And how! I remember the angels from the third part – those were WARRIORS! And here... Some pious jerk in a robe with a ridiculously designed sword and a heavy, ugly cross around his neck! Okay, forget about industrialization, but instead of this Christian-like nonsense, they could have come up with something else. In general, Humans, traditionally, represent the side of Good. So why are they all so Christian again? After all, it's no secret that Christianity is primordial Evil, just well-disguised as Good. Let's remember history – the Christian faith was imposed by fire and sword, and the peoples that refused to accept it were completely eradicated! Do you think our ancestors embraced Christianity with open arms? Prince Vladimir had no choice! The question was put bluntly: either Christianity, or genocide. And the very essence of the Christian religion is the complete suppression of human rights and freedoms. The most natural rights and freedoms! Let me remind you of the main dogmas of a true Christian: 1. The body must suffer in the name of saving the soul. 2. Material values are inherently sinful. 3. A woman is the bearer of original sin. 4. Sex is the creation of the devil. It can only be practiced on certain days, in only one position, and only for the purpose of procreation, no pleasure allowed. 5. Patience and humility are the foundation of life. One must not resist violence and evil; everything is God's will. Normal, right? Would you want that kind of life? I think, I hope, I believe that most people don't want that kind of life for themselves or others. And that's why, even in a fictional fantasy world, portraying Christianity as Good is blasphemous. Now, in this same anti-Christian vein, let's continue the conversation about the units. The Inquisitor. Again, let's remember history. The Inquisition carried out monstrous tortures on innocent people, and here, a ruthless sadist is presented as a kind of hero, "fighting against the infidels" (read: against those who chose a free, worthy life, in which there is a place not only for work and difficulties, but also for rest and pleasure). And it's even more frustrating that the most beautiful, sexy, and liberated girls are presented here as Evil and are called beasts and furies. Okay, let them be beasts and furies. But then let's have equally seductive beauties on the side of Good! Why, tell me, are there only men in the army of the Elven faction, and no girls? And yet, in the army of the Dark Elves, there are both women and men? It would have been easy to replace the archers with female archers, or the druids with female druids! "What about the Dryads?" you ask. Yes, there is such a thing, but this chlorophyll-infused creature, covered in branches and vines growing out of its body, is not exactly very attractive. And it's also inconspicuous against the backdrop of the diversity of "matriarchs." And the angelicas of the Humans are a complete failure! Even their hair is hidden under a hood, let alone their figure! And that huge, ugly cross... It makes you sad. Because there are no liberated, sexy beauties on the side of Good in "Heroes 5." Were misogynists and religious fanatics secretly added to the development team? They could have! As mentioned earlier, they could have added female elves (archers or druids) to the Elven faction, and replaced the creepy celibate monks and inquisitors with sexy Healers and Priestesses of Light. As for the angels and archangels, since Humans also need high-level units, they could have remembered about industrialization and added Ballistae and Siege Ballistae... Or some kind of human-eagles (flying musclemen-giants with a human body and the head and wings of an eagle). But no... Postscript: There are also complaints about the units of the Wizards. It's some kind of perverse carnival, not an army. The only normal units are the Gremlins and Golems. Post-postscript: All of the above does not diminish the merits of the game. It's just that the developers shouldn't have tried to promote celibacy and anti-sexuality.

You are a complete idiot, Survival, and I'll say it again, you're a total moron. You should be immediately branded as a heretic. Since I've read the Bible myself, I know what's what, and what kind of vile cross you're talking about. How dare you, you damned blasphemer? If you're okay with that kind of sex, maybe you'd even agree to a group session – but I find group sex repulsive, and those pornographic poses you like are also disgusting. I won't even mention them, as many people are familiar with them. In some of them, a woman is humiliated and suffers (and you consider that a good thing, you heretical parasite). How dare you, you despicable creature, speak like that about the Archangels? You are a complete nothing, a brainless idiot. If you don't like it, don't consume it; you could have just not bought the game. The Archangels are beautifully depicted; there's no need to say all sorts of vile things about them. Archers are also part of the Human army. Don't forget that God is blessed and merciful; He can forgive.
You misunderstand the messages in the Bible, and as for the Inquisition, read the Malleus Maleficarum; then all the secrets of the evil caused by witches will be revealed to you. And if you still insist on your point of view, may you be cursed forever. Forever cursed is he who takes Light for Darkness and Darkness for Light. And there's nothing to complain about regarding the armies; everything is well-chosen and reflects the developers' imagination.

First of all, religious issues definitely shouldn't be discussed here. There is no Christianity as such in Heroes, only distant allusions. They shouldn't be paid any attention to, and if you don't like the religion, no one forces you to adhere to it; we live in a free country. You asked if we want it this way. It's also worth remembering that most Russians are atheists and, of course, do not adhere to the principles of any particular religion. Secondly, it's because of your dubious stance on Christianity that you call people evil. What's the point? Thirdly, to be honest, the phrase about a medieval industrial city made me smile. Study history; you might learn that industrialization began many centuries after the Middle Ages. Fourthly, why are you so fixated on the sexiness of the units? Are you playing games to look at half-naked girls? Forgive my frankness, but I don't think that's something worth nitpicking. And, frankly, it's impossible to create something truly sexy within the engine of Heroes 5. And we shouldn't forget about the target audience for the game, which is 12 years and older. This also played a role. Well, I'm glad that people like you weren't involved in the development of Heroes. They would definitely have ruined the series. Sincerely.

Okay, so don't criticize Christianity here. Notice that, according to Christian beliefs, everything on Earth is a test, and paradise will be for those who live a righteous life. And paradise is definitely better than Earth. Moving on, the Angels turned out really great. I think they're better than in Heroes of Might and Magic III. There, they represent some kind of harsh punishment, it's unclear for what, with their stern appearance, but here, the Angels inspire you to strive for the light and the good. So, Angels should symbolize goodness, not sexuality. Regarding the Sylvan Elves, you're right. Instead of archers, they should have made female archers.

Major is absolutely right; it's time to close this topic and delete it. However, I would like everyone on the forum to take a look at this; people like this don't appear here often, especially with such a terrible reputation, and to name the topic "Serious Conversation" is just adding insult to injury.

Barbiturate?...
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Vodka???

Barbiturate?...
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Vodka???

Yeah, probably because of vodka...

It’s still very sad to realize that there are such heretics and blasphemers among us, like
Survival 2.

Heretics are all lone wolves – that’s not surprising, or they go around in pairs, although that’s less common. I just don’t understand how there are still people among us who increase Survival’s morale; I should remember that.

I'll give you a thumbs up to try and balance things out. The person wrote a long post, they were clearly upset, and so on. They didn't resort to personal attacks, but you, Neo, completely trashed them. You should be ashamed. Yes, it was a mistake of theirs to write something like that here, especially since there are many believers here, but you can't just take someone and cover them in mud. Now, about Survival. Really, what do you care about the sexiness of the units? If you want that, watch some porn, play some games that are aimed at that audience, etc. That's secondary here. This is Heroes. There should only be castles and dragons here. I was actually surprised that they made the units look like that. Although, I have to admit, it was a pleasant surprise :) I'm a guy, after all. There should be no religious symbols, omens, biblical stories, etc., here. Again, you shouldn't be looking for that. This is a game. There's a completely different religion here. And a cross – what, is that figure only something that Christians could come up with? I don't understand. And besides, if you remember the biblical cross, it looks a little different; it has a third part, placed diagonally. The Inquisition destroyed those it considered heretics. Yes, the church had a lot of power in the Middle Ages. And again, Neo, we understand the harm that witches can cause, but do you really think they exist? In general, author, don't discuss topics like this anymore. It's all been discussed before, actually, a couple of years ago when the game was just released. As they say, if you don't like it, don't play it. Or, if the Archangel's skin bothers you so much, redraw it.

I didn't mix it with crap; the word "idiot" and everything else suits him perfectly. Where did you see any crap? I was just explaining in my second post how wrong he was, and he deserved it; he's to blame for it.
So, it turns out that, as you say, you're defending him, even though, first of all, you dare to tell me to be ashamed, when he should be ashamed for hurting the feelings of religious people, including me. I have nothing to be ashamed of; he should be ashamed. Witches may have really existed (back then); that's why legends and other things exist, because they don't come from nowhere. Besides, the heroes themselves took a lot from the Bible and The Lord of the Rings. Hmm, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

You are a complete idiot, Survival, and I’ll say it again, you are a complete idiot. You can be immediately added to the ranks of heretics.

You are a damned blasphemer.

You are a heretical parasite.

How dare you, you despicable creature, say such things about the Archangels – you are a complete, senseless nothing.

May you be cursed forever.

Look at all this garbage. Or am I wrong? Be more tolerant of people and their views. You are now just like those crazy inquisitors, hacking their way through the enemies of the Emperor with fire and sword.
Have you never written huge posts in which you express your deepest opinion on any issue? No? But I and many others have. That’s how it is. And it’s the same here.
Everyone has their own view on faith and religion. For a person with atheistic views, your accusations of heresy only evoke a smile.
Less emotion. It’s not easy to recover from stress.

Lan, that's your opinion, and this is his, and this is mine; let everyone think as they want. And regarding the insults directed at him, I'll say again that he deserved them completely and without question. And the word "shit" might seem offensive to you, but it can be expressed in other ways.

yes, I defend him as a person who expressed his views regardless of anything. but at the same time, by doing so, he offended the feelings of believers. well, what can I say. I am an atheist. therefore, I give more preference to the first. at least he didn't specifically insult you.

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you can argue:
a) until the umbilical cord is cut
b) until the pulse is lost
c) until banned
while everyone will stick to their opinion.
so this topic will be closed soon... or maybe not, but I have personally said everything.

Don't you understand yet that touching upon the feelings of believers, especially in the way he wrote it, is the same as insulting them, even without using offensive language? Moreover, he himself said, "First, read all of this," instead of immediately criticizing him. This means he was already prepared for criticism, dissatisfaction, and so on, so there's no need for it.