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Before throwing unfounded criticism, based solely on your personal opinion (which may very well be wrong, don't you think?), try playing with the same Anton. Honestly, knowing him a little, I wouldn't bet on you :D I myself thought a lot of things before I started playing online seriously. I even thought that everyone was cheating, until I started analyzing saves more seriously (sorry, when a player starts with Conflux and arrives at your castle on the third week with 60-70 Minotaurs and crushes you, you'll start to think). You need to take your opponents more seriously, with respect.


:smile38: Which Anton? What Conflux? What Minotaurs? Who is crushing whom? :smile11: Look at the topic title: "Inferno gameplay tactics."
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Antoshka is one of the best players in Heroes of Might and Magic III, and he also shares his experience and knowledge.
A strategy focused on building up resources and other things in the first week leads to defeat against decent opponents on the vast majority of maps. In the first week, you need Efreet.

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no one is arguing that building up your economy, especially in Inferno, is a bad tactic that is doomed to fail...
trying to play with demonology online against an opponent with zero starting money is not a solution! nothing will come of it...
the game should focus on Efreet - definitely.

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Antoshka is one of the best players in Heroes 3.

I don't know him, and he is not an authority for me, let alone the best player in H3.
If you want to talk about him, create a topic "Antoshka, give us strength" and discuss it there. :smile30:
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What kind of people are these? When they try to say something sensible, something you can't help but listen to, they immediately start being rude.
What Antonshka? What Conflux? What Minotaurs? Who is crushing whom? Look at the title of the topic: "Inferno Gameplay Tactics."
Antonshka is known on many Heroes resources as an offline expert, so if you don't know him, it's better to stay silent. Just because you play as Inferno doesn't mean you can't develop other Castles. That's where the Minotaurs and the Conflux came from. And I want to say what has already been said: the strength of Inferno lies in the demons, not in the Efreet. The problem may be a small amount of money, but if you have enough money, crypts, and other money-generating buildings, then the demons will kill everyone. Even if you play on 200% difficulty, by the third or fourth week, you can easily have 70-80 demons, with which you can crush Utopia. And after that, money will appear, and accordingly, there will be enough resources to continue producing demons; the main thing is to have secondary Castles for meat production
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..Devil May Cry..;145564

Regarding the statement "I don't think Ifrits and Devils are converted into demons":
if they could be converted, would you do it??? :confused:
I haven't met anyone who has even tried to do this :smile42:
Hmm... and who do you think I am?:mad: Of course, I would:D :D :D

It was said in the sense that, undoubtedly, no idiot would convert higher-level creatures into demons. And the possibility of conversion – meaning that it is, in principle, possible in the game – yes, it is naturally possible.... And there is a reason to be ironic about your phrase (we haven't switched to "you" yet ;) ) "if they could be converted," - they can be converted =))) Especially if they managed to die in a battle at an inopportune moment.:D :D :D

P.S. For some reason, it seems to me that this was said about such a large number of demons on a difficulty of 160.
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P.S. For some reason, it seems to me that such a number of demons was mentioned for 160% difficulty
To be honest, I haven't read everything written here before this page, and in one month I personally gathered far more demons than I indicated above, but on 160%. I haven't played on 200% for a long time and simply divided the number by at least half. That is why I ventured to write that 70-80 demons in 3-4 weeks (depending on the amount of money) on 200% is quite normal and realistic :) .
Why?? Because if you simply take 20 pits and convert the entire army into demons (all growths for 3 weeks), you get 260 demons and that's it =) there is no one in the army except demons and 20 pits...
I really want to know the further development of such an Inferno !!!
You don't even know what even 260 demons can do? :eek: First, you take all the Dragon Utopia you see in the vicinity, then you simply kill the opponent and that's it. :) If the opponent has high magic parameters, you cast anti-magic on the demons, then kill everyone one by one. Just calculate the damage dealt by these demons even with identical hero parameters.
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It's quite challenging to create a large number of demons, around 200. The main problem will be building 1-2 guilds and buying pits. The damage of the demons will be 1.6k - 2.1k with an attack of 10. If you take Undead and Constructs, there will be approximately 60 fewer demons. In principle, 200 demons won't be enough to completely eliminate the main opponent, even with antimagic. For example, if we look at Necropolis, there might already be around 1000 skeletons. This is a complete defeat for 200 demons. P.S. Of course, the possibility of replenishing their numbers is not excluded.
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at 200% it is quite difficult to make many many demons. the main problem will be building the 1st-2nd guild and buying pets.
No one is arguing that cutting down demons isn't exactly simple, especially at 200%, but if you don't learn how to do this, then you will most likely lose against serious players using this Castle. Demons are the strength of Inferno, just as skeletons are for Necropolis, only it's a paid strength :) . The Inferno respawn is usually poor, so the main task is to break through to the grass, where there is usually plenty of money, and then it's a matter of technique and skill.
when taking the Dragon Utopia and cans - there will be about 60 fewer demons.
The damage of 260 demons is such that they kill 5 black dragons in one hit even with a hero attack of 0, therefore in the Dragon Utopia none of the dragon stacks will ever hit them once, for fear of dying from the retaliation; the main thing is to bring enough meat with you to distract the dragons. In this case, all Dragon Utopias are taken absolutely without losses, and cans even more so.
suppose if looking towards Necropolis - there could already be about 1000 skeletons. and that is complete death for 200 demons.
Well, if played correctly, all the demons will remain :) . So let's consider the case of 260 horned demons against 1000 skeleton warriors:
damage dealt by demons with equal hero parameters:
260*(7-9)+20%=2184-2808 damage units or accordingly kill 364-468 skeletons.
damage dealt by skeletons:
1000*(1-3)-10%=900-2700 damage units or simply put, they kill 22.5-67.5 demons.
As you can see, with these troops, demons kill approximately 36 to 46 percent of skeletons in one hit, while skeletons take the lives of only 8-26 percent of the demon stack.
Even if there are only 200 demons, the damage to skeletons will be 1680-2160 (280-360 pieces), meaning about a third of the skeleton stack will be dead once again :) , which is still more than what 1000 skeletons will kill. Naturally, everything will depend on how you conduct the battle, but imho demons rule, especially in such quantities. So think about it: are demons as harmless as you believe? ;)
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The damage of 260 demons is such that they kill 5 black dragons in a single blow even with a hero attack of 0, therefore in the Dragon Utopia none of the dragon stacks will ever hit them once, for fear of dying from the retaliation; the main thing is to bring a sufficient amount of meat to distract the dragons. In this case, all Dragon Utopias are taken absolutely without losses, and the same goes for the canned goods.
The coolest part is that you can once again restore demons using the fallen meat.
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The coolest thing is that you can restore demons from the fallen meat again.
Yes, but it's better not to take Pit Lords with you to Dragon Utopia. If anyone, dragons can certainly bite Pit Lords—unless, of course, there are so many of them that the dragons are the ones who are afraid ;)
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Yes, but it's better not to take Pit Lords with you to the Dragon Utopia. If anyone can get bitten by dragons, it's the Pit Lords—unless, of course, there are so many of them that the dragons are the ones who are afraid ;)

But why :) ? It's enough to just bring some Imps ;)
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Why not? It's enough to just take Imps with you.
What do Imps have to do with Pit Lords?:) Imps do a great job as cannon fodder, but if there are few Pit Lords in the stack (I don't know how many are needed for dragons to start fearing them), then the dragons will start kicking them. Therefore, it's better to take Demons with you (if there are enough of them, but in the given example, there are more than enough) and some cannon fodder.
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What do demons have to do with Pit Lords?:) Demons are great as cannon fodder, but if there are few Pit Lords in the stack (I don't know how many are needed for dragons to start fearing them), then the dragons will start kicking them. Therefore, it's better to bring demons with you (if there are enough of them, but in the given example, there are more than enough) and some meat.

That's exactly what I'm saying: demons will act as cannon fodder, and then the Pit Lords can turn them into fighters...;), but of course, demons wouldn't hurt either...:)
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That's exactly what I'm saying: the imps will be used as fodder, and the pitlords can then use their remains to create even more soldiers...
I already explained why it's better not to take pitlords into the utopia if you want to keep them.
but it's better not to take pitlords with you into the utopia. Dragons might bite them, and if there are too many, the dragons will be afraid of them.
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:D, we're talking about the same thing several times...

If there are imps in the army, the dragons will be distracted by them, and the pitlords and demons, in turn, will be distracted by the dragons.
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