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Actually, the Empress's story ended with a happy family life.

Actually, the Empress's story ended with a happy family life.

Tell me, am I crazy, or did something like this happen in some old game: a player character's gender was changed from male to female, they were forced to have sexual relations with monsters, and then they died. I remember stumbling upon it by chance, but it was a long time ago; I don't remember where or whose game it was, and I even thought at the time: those were different times. Nowadays, that definitely wouldn't happen.

I imagine if Revan had asked me to calculate your battle in Calcite and it ended with your defeat (may RNG be merciful), there would have been grounds to suspect that everyone would have gone berserk, even more so than Yashur did after everything he faced… because the “King” isn’t real! 🤣🤣🤣

I don't understand where you got this from and now you are attributing it to everyone. As others have already written, with the exception of Astral (he can get away with it, he is young) and Nebka (he is an old Altus player), no one really emphasizes this. This isn't a PG13 children's show, and people, like in real life, sometimes go to the toilet, fight, get drunk, or break someone's head.

There were isolated cases for everyone, but we were talking about the overall atmosphere.

And what exactly does your individualism consist of? In being a completely autonomous explorer and not encountering any NPCs who are commanders, maniacs who want to kill you right there, perverts who want to rape you, kill you, and then rape you again, always winning against everyone, getting the most powerful artifacts, and pleasing all the NPCs?

Can you give a specific example where, in your opinion, individualism is violated?

When the GM obviously violates his own mechanics, no one likes it.

and from all the comments, I understood

Uff... I don't know how else to explain this... My impression was formed "bit by bit." From "every nook and cranny," so to speak. Is that clear enough? And some people even "manured" this very "impression of mine" with malicious trolling (I don't mean you, Heroist, for the record).

Here... Not everything is there.

Well, if you want a "specific example," look at the "final" moment in the obelisks, after which I quit. Specifically, point 4 was "violated." I specifically asked "what was that" and if there was any possibility of punishing Jingo (I agreed to "any consequences," even being exiled to the desert). Your specific answer: "Typical GM character," and from everyone's comments, I realized that dealing with Jingo would be impossible in any way. From which I logically conclude that for you, this is normal. For me, it is "not normal." That is, "individualism," since it turns out I am the only one "on this issue"...

(meanwhile, "irl problems" didn't stop you from mocking me once again, and quite "timely" at that).

That means "likes." And one can say whatever they want. I judge "by behavior"...

Among the “commenters,” there were three: a person who had a grudge against Revan and a strong desire to ruin the game; a person who hadn’t played or read the Obelisks and simply listened to the first one; and Nebok, who genuinely decided that this was the GM's character.
This was precisely an instance of real trolling – not the kind you imagined, but the genuine article that you ultimately fell for.

GM characters do exist in reality, but your situations are not representative of any game.

Understood, your champion accidentally clashed with a local Lyde analogue and instantly wiped out. I lost my favorite and best mage, who naively followed Ment's character and agreed to help defend Nebkin's Nishi. It seems like the bar owner one-shot her before anyone could even fart).

and Nebok who really decided that this was a GM character.

In Alex’s expedition, I was actually defeated by a tentacled monster, even though I was playing as a male character

So you mean all NPCs and player characters should be genderless angel-like beings, just so nothing "accumulates in the corners"

And nobody should joke about your character being an incel.

Ok, I have no questions about those points. But what if this happens: your character annoys an NPC with their persistence to the point that the NPC kills them. Purely in terms of game mechanics, in combat, the NPC is simply stronger. You can't punish him because your character is dead. Is this GM own-goal/arbitrariness? Just that such cases have happened. When a player character intentionally asks for it, and then the player gets offended that they were killed.

If you're interested, I dropped exps only because my characters' stats were being lowered. I dropped even when my characters ended up fine despite such NPCs. Revan dropped my exp right at the end because of a similar NPC. Even though he didn't intend to harm his character. Heroist dropped my exp because, as he saw it, an NPC cheated him. Not the GM, but an NPC. And this is only what I remembered quickly; if you dig deeper, you can find more examples. So don't talk to me about "the norm" here.

I don't like it. And most likely nobody likes it. But such situations aren't 99% of exps. Now tell me, do you see a queue of people willing to run an exp for free 10-12 hours a day for a couple of months, from which you could choose a GM who won't have such NPCs?

In Alex's exp, for the record, I got screwed by a tentacle monster, and I was a man