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Posts from Expedition: general discussions.Auto-translated
It's just that the Persians turned out to be too different, which is why a cohesive party experience couldn't be created. Perhaps, at the beginning, players should be forcibly connected by the plot and a common goal, guiding them along, because otherwise, they might not team up and just do whatever they want
It’s just that the characters turned out to be too different, and that’s why there wasn’t any proper party content. Perhaps, at the beginning, the players should be forcibly linked by the plot and a common goal, guiding them, because otherwise they might not get together and just do whatever they want.
If the goal is to travel the world and explore unfamiliar places, and the "leader" is the character Yaschur, while yours are "expendable," then I agree...
Added 2 minutes later Just one more point: getting rid of all sorts of nasty things obtained during this exploration should be as easy as obtaining them...
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
Something IRL got in the way (thankfully, it didn't happen in a bunker), and I couldn't continue. Did you guys run out of time there, or not?
Added 3 minutes later Author
Perhaps 6 people is too many for an expedition, and in this case, the GM simply doesn't have enough energy.
Heh... I always thought that around five was the lower limit for the number of players... Maybe that also affected the fact that I couldn't continue, although to a lesser extent than in real life
E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza, e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
In the "wolf-like mafias" on the KB forum, "characters" like Dorian were "eliminated" immediately as soon as they were "identified." The GMs even had to change the voting format, but it didn't help much...
Added 12 minutes later
Here, by the way, I was racking my brain about how Voldemar would complete some "main quest" side by side with Tifa. After all, he was supposed to eliminate her without any options. It turned out that all this "hatred of the authorities" isn't worth the paper it's "written on."
Now, Dorian... Well, he's an enemy, no question about it. Especially for Rurec or Osha. But...
It's strange that it wasn't possible to play Lord Harranov as Asuguh in the obelisks... 🤣
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
Firstly, characters can change and alter their perspective on other characters. This is what happened with Rurek and Osh. Although I don't like changing my characters, Osh seems to be the first one I've changed. Secondly, the mafia isn't an "exp" game; otherwise, I would have tried to kill your character at the first meeting. Thirdly, you wouldn't play an "exp" game where players kill each other.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт Небо – угроз не слышит Небо – ведёт особый счёт Небо – тебя найдёт
You know, Alex should have asked if the expansion was over, and it ended right away
"Jinxed" it...
Added 23 minutes ago Sky
Firstly: characters can change and change their point of view regarding other characters. This is what happened with Rurek and Osh. Although I don't like changing my characters, Osh seems to be the first one I changed.
I don't know, I don't know... Rurek dreamed of taking revenge on the Fire Lords throughout his "remaining life"... I don't understand how Dorian differed from his buddy Hataright (except that he was a "player character"), who killed all of Rurek's buddies, and I probably won't understand...Sky
Secondly: the mafia is not an expansion, otherwise I would try to kill your character at the first meeting).
The trick was that killing another player's character in the first turn could harm you more than it would benefit you... Besides, no one usually died with one hit...Sky
Thirdly: you yourself won't play in an expansion where players kill each other.
Of course, I won't if some people walk around with one-shot hammers and overpowered skills on steroid minds, and others - with pots and pickaxes... You have to come up with such a "world and mechanics" so that everyone is on equal terms (there were also problems with this in the Wolf's mafias, by the way). But, as I understand it, a clear "structure" has already formed here, that the expansion is a "battle of player characters against the GM's NPCs," regardless of who and what they represent...🤣 Well, and "scavenging" and "kissing boots," of course, how can we do without it...🤣
Added 12 minutes ago Let's take Shuka, for example. He came from a tribe that hated people, and it was "clearly written on his face," but he didn't bother to explain what was what. I understand that this is his "character," I guess.🤣 In this case, Jingo should have been angry with Osh and Rurek after "communicating" with them and gone to the Fire Lands on his own, and not on the "GM's tip," as the Heroes player's character.🤣 Rurek basically "screwed" them over with his companion...
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
I don't know, I don't know... Rurek dreamed of taking revenge on the Fire Elves throughout his "remaining life"... I don't understand how Dorian differed from his buddy Hataright (other than the fact that he was a "player character"), who killed all of Rurek's buddies, and I probably won't understand...
Now explain how he should have done it if he didn't recognize him because of the change in appearance, and then Dorian immediately ran away after being exposed? Should he have chased after him? Did he know where Dorian went? Or should he have urgently abandoned everything else and run around cleaning up all sectors without resources for this? According to your logic, Rurek and Osh should have committed suicide by attacking the Fire Elves at the very beginning. This is what comes out of your complaints. Author
The trick was that killing another player's characters in the first turn could harm you more than benefit you... Besides, no one usually died with just one hit...
Now it turns out that killing characters in the expansion can be harmful. When you wrote your claims above, you apparently forgot about this. Author
Of course, I won't play if some go around with one-hit kill hammers and overpowered skills on steroid minds, while others - with pots and pickaxes... It takes a lot to think through "the world and mechanics" so that everyone is on equal footing (there were also problems with this in Wolf's Mafia, by the way).
Don't tell me that you won't play something like that only because of imbalance. Author
But, as I understand it, here a clear "structure" has already formed, where the expansion is a "battle between player characters against GM NPCs," regardless of who and what they are...🤣
I'll say it again. You will be the first to drop an expansion where your character is killed by another player's character and you will be very upset, even if there is perfect balance. You can read Dal Shabet to make sure that what you are talking about happens. In the middle of the game, three player characters died at once: mine, Plesen', and Sivera. There was also Plesen's expansion, where Heroist's character harassed my character throughout the game. Personally, I don't like this and I try not to do things like that. Author
Take Shuk for example. He came from a tribe that hated humans, and it was "clearly written on his face," but he didn't bother to explain what was going on. I understand, maybe that's just his "character"...🤣
He lost his hatred for humans after Antrum. Author
In that case, Jingo should have been angry with Osh and Rurek after "talking" to them and gone to the Fire Elves quite voluntarily, rather than following the "GM's lead," as Heroist's character did...🤣 Rurek basically "betrayed" them and his companion...
So why didn't he go? Nothing stopped you from running to join the Fire Elves (Gnol would guide you) or attacking non-humans. He bothered me and Astral too, while your character behaved exactly the same way.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт Небо – угроз не слышит Небо – ведёт особый счёт Небо – тебя найдёт
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The GMs even had to change the voting format, but it didn't help much...