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Valera 111
Understood.
And which concept do you rely on the most?
I would try to come up with a description or even several options for the snake-like creatures, at your discretion.
It's hard to say for now; the concepts change along with the units.

For now, it's the Outcast Clan, hence the Shark Guards and Stream Spirits. The Kirin is a questionable unit – if possible, I'll replace it, but they also had their own concept, like these are spirits that are exiled from the Lotus Empire for their villainous nature. There, it's still a peaceful paradise with an overpowered Empress who simply collects the tears of Ashi as a resource, but that's not the point. It's a small unit; it needs to be changed
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I like the idea of cursed nagas that have forgotten how to breathe underwater the most, but I don't know, I think I might also make a version with the heads of K'ahn's. In theory, it's simple; I have a couple of naga icons. If I get too overwhelmed with redesigning the naga generals, I'll revert to the canonical nagas
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Everything is ready, but as always, I'm not satisfied. The stats seem a bit simplistic, the design could be tweaked to make the first two more contrasting, the names are rubbish, and because of the reduced size, it started to move slowly... ужас.
Awesome snakes!
I'll rename them to nagas for myself later (all creatures in the game become mythical creatures for me).

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The first unit of Sanctuary.
I wonder, am I the only one who's tired of calling these water dragons kirins? In mythology, a kirin was a goat with scales, not this colorful creature.
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I wonder, am I the only one who is tired of calling these aquatic dragons Kirin? In mythology, a Kirin was a goat with scales, not this colorful creature.
No, a couple of people on VK also suggested other names, but I don't see the point in changing it, because I took the head, shoulders, and tail specifically from a unit called Kirin, and the fans of the Ashan lore will also be pleased (and there are such people; there was a guy who said that my nagas shouldn't be called nagas because snake heads are haram not canon, lol)

It makes sense to change the names only if I lower the Kirin to T4-6, because then there will be a conflict with the Ashan canon, where Kirin is a T7 intelligent higher spirit, and all sorts of Mizu-kami and Yuki-Onna are semi-intelligent spirits; it is logical that if the Kirin is lowered to their level, it will lose its intelligence, and another name may be used for it
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It's interesting, but I'm already tired of calling these water dragons "kirin." In mythology, a kirin was a goat with scales, not this colorful creature.

I don't know what kind of "kirin" you have, but I have a Kugoo Kirin G2 Pro
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This unit has a lot of abilities that suit it; I will probably change its level and abilities later. For now, I will work on the sharks.

Is this something I should take?
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I came up with some concepts:

Concept 1: "Experiment"

Once, a now-forgotten daimyo, in his race for power and the Empress's recognition, made a deal with the Crimson Wizards. His plan was to transform all Kensai into Kensei, as well as all their subsequent generations within the clan.
The experiment was successful; all Kensai grew additional arms, but there was also a side effect: all newborns had snake heads.
The daimyo's actions angered the Empress, and he was exiled to the wild sea.
The fate of the new species was intervened by one of the aspects of Shallasy, who named them as Shallasy's children, just like all other Nagas.
Since then, they have inhabited the border regions of the empire and serve as defenders of the coastal waters (lands, if we take as a concept that they cannot breathe underwater).

Concept 2: "Unknown Nagas"
It was believed that there were three types of Nagas, but recent expeditions of the Lotus Empire into unknown lands beyond the "Ranaara" steppes stumbled upon a settlement of "land Nagas." They resembled deep Nagas with some differences: their height was almost 5 meters, and their tails were 7.5 meters long.
They all had four arms like Kensei, and the biggest difference was their snake heads.
After several years of diplomatic and religious missions, the "land Nagas" joined the Lotus Empire and serve as its fist in land wars, where their aquatic brethren have no advantage.

Concept: "Clan of Outcast Nagas" – still in progress. "As an option, we can take the first concept, like the entire clan was exiled."
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I distributed the elementals and toads across different levels and added the shark guardians.

I planned to place the sharks and nagas next to each other, but they are too similar in terms of their stats, so a flying unit is needed between them.

I wanted to put the toads on Tier 4, but no, Tier 3 is their maximum.

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Great job! In my opinion, I would increase the HP of the spirits, even considering their incorporeality and flight; given their growth rate, it's not enough... up to 30, no more
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Great job! In my opinion, I would increase the HP of the spirits, even considering their incorporeality and flight; given their growth rate, it's not enough... up to 30, no more.
I'll change it later; it's strange that a spirit will be as bulky as a shark, but we'll see; maybe I'll redistribute the stats differently later
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Is there any consideration being given to linking these Nagas to the city of Shanria?
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Valera 111
Is there any consideration of linking these Nagas to the city of Shanria?
No, that's a city in a glacier; in the artwork, those Nagas are in thick orange clothes with white scales and icy blades/arrows/staves. I won't do that.

I'm replacing the Sylvan faction, so I haven't considered any connections with Shanria or the desert city.

Initially, there were ideas leaning towards a cult of the flooding from the western seas, but... I'm making the faction on request – every time I make a demon faction, I'm asked to change it... and I unexpectedly found zen. I like the positive vibes of the Naga faction, but I absolutely don't like the Lotus Empire because of its too strong emphasis on religion and spirits (and the Empress is a very vague, overpowered character that ruins the faction).

Religion is the least thought-out element of the faction because usually, the church endows the ruler with power and creates basic laws; most often, the ruler is deified, as in Egypt, Japan, and even in Greece, there were dynasties descended from mythical heroes, and in the Lotus Empire, something similar – the spirits of water swear allegiance to the Empress as if she were an avatar of a god, but she is not an avatar... analogies with Xian, the immortal sage in Taoism, suggest themselves.

The cult of the flooding, as something opposite to the Empress, could quite support my Nagas, but... frankly, it's a destructive cult; if they are not restrained, they will quickly run into someone and get beaten, and I also think that this cult would create a faction around itself, gathering ronin, bandits, and pirates. On the other hand, the Aztecs also had a destructive cult, but the state was relatively large. Without religion, it's also possible, but then everything will turn into a cult of personality and a military dictatorship.

The whole problem is in the biome and equipment; my Nagas don't look like Shanria or Sayamu; this is the armor of the Lotus Empire, which I hate.biggrin

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I started making (and probably already finishedbiggrin) the basic witch; I found a mask for the upgrade, because before it was just a recolored face

The upgrade needs more work; a dark magic version is practically calling for itself here

The witch will be T6; unlike the Sanctuary, these are more like mages rather than monk-priests, and they will cast darkness/light magic. A connection to the Oshiro clan or the Dungeon seems obvious, but no—the ocean is vast, and such ties make Ashan feel small. Besides, medusas were linked to darkness retroactively; originally they were priestesses of destruction. The canon was rewritten for a fan-service medusa in the Dungeon—yikes, Ubisoft is going bankrupt

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For now, since the concept is undefined, I've created descriptions as if these were warriors of the Lotus Empire. 1. Naga "In the Lotus Empire, these creatures are known as Ja-ko – 'Children of the Serpent.' They are not born as such, but become them by voluntarily choosing the path of serving the deep-sea shrines." 2. Naga Samurai "The Naga Samurai are veterans who have earned their title in the crucible of endless battles. They are recognized masters of war, whose right to leadership and honorable armor is forged in their own blood. This is the most respected caste of warriors, as their power is based not on a random gift, but on iron discipline, unwavering will, and years of grueling training, which has brought their mastery of four swords to absolute perfection." 3. Kabukimono. I took the liberty of renaming it Ryu-kei. "When great misfortune befalls the shores of Ashan, the Daimyo of Sanctuary can summon Ryu-kei. They emerge from the water silently, with only a quiet hiss, which frightens enemies more than a battle cry. They are considered holy martyrs: they have given up their form and peace to become perfect assassins in the service of Shalassa." And the story of the Serpent-like beings: In the Lotus Empire, there are monasteries located at the very bottom of the oceanic trenches, where the water pressure is incredible. Nagas, striving for high enlightenment, go there on pilgrimage. Transformation: During years of meditation in the presence of the 'Tears of Ashan,' the warrior's body changes. To better control the elements, they grow a second pair of hands. And since they renounce human emotions in favor of the will of the Dragon, their face turns into a serpentine muzzle – a symbol of pure, primordial power of nature. Status: They are considered 'living shrines.' They do not speak, only hiss, but their four blades move in perfect synchronicity, like the currents of the ocean. **regarding your criticism** **If you approve, I will upload the files.** **UPD: I've attached the file.**
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