Tactics for Necropolis. — Tactics

снайп

18 years ago

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It’s difficult to fight golems with only vampires, because you can’t eat them, just like you can’t eat gargoyles. The main counter to vampires are gremlins; if you’re fighting a Fortress, eat and attack with stronger units. You can use skeletons as fodder so that the vampires don’t get killed. Since the Fortress has many archers, you can do this: block the titans with dragons (maybe they’ll even get old and this movie will be great!), dreadknights, and gremlins, because the latter won’t do much to them. Then, use vampires to attack the mages (vampires are practically immortal in a duel; even if there are twice as many mages, the vampires will win due to their numbers).

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Mos.keen

18 years ago

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Freeman;132441

:eek:
Seriously, it's not needed, no, but Slow is a must. Resurrection, though, is essential for Necromancers and often the key to winning a battle. :cool:

In my opinion, raising undead is secondary for Necromancers, although I still use it. Sometimes, a simple Slow is enough. But I try to level up Earth Magic (just in case there's a portal).=))

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18 years ago

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many players play as Necropolis using only vampires (they focus on them, especially if they have 100+ of them, even if the opponent has many strong units, but the Tower has gremlins that can help the vampires a lot:smile04:)

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Valick;132069

Good people! Tell me how to use magic twice in one turn in battle? I really need to win against my neighbor... I've already lost to him 7 times in a row...
There's some button you hold down, and you aim it at the hero in battle... you press it... a book opens, and you're good to go!!!:smile17:

Haven doesn't have anything like that at all, and double casting can only be done against the computer; otherwise, you'll be considered a cheater, a bug abuser, and worst of all, a noob, and you might get a "nickname" if you do it against people, and you might even be disqualified from a tournament if I'm not mistaken....
P.S.: And what is your neighbor using this bug for? :) Then tell him to his face that he's a cheater!

Landalos

18 years ago

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My brother plays as Necropolis, and he's been killing everything with Liches his whole life. O.o
And you won't believe how low the chance is for dragons to age... When my dragons hit someone, they never age them, but when they hit me, they age me 100% :)))

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18 years ago

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Naj;83052

Actually, you definitely need vampires, skeletons too, but it's better not to go against a serious enemy without black knights. Dragons aren't essential, though. Because many other very powerful units can defeat them, for example, archangels or archdevils. Take ghosts to gain magic points and move on.

Yes, dragons are generally not worth it! They're a good translation (of resources and money, in particular); only use them if you're rich and have built everything you need. Build your army around a swarm of skeletons (but I use them as cannon fodder to protect liches and dreads, because there are many of them, and they are quite resilient for level 1; you can often upgrade this spell in the Tower, but teleport is harder to find). With vampires, I usually attack the strongest units first. If it's the Tower, then I just respawn them on gremlins. With liches, in the case of the Tower, it would be better to attack gargoyles or golems (because they won't let vampires regenerate). With a dread, you can defeat djinn (it's hard to tell what they will cast). Earth magic is essential for necromancers, forgive the pun; it has all the important spells: slow, shield, stoneskin, raise dead, and, if you have enough attack power and mana, death ripple. A good hero is Tanta; if there are resurrection spells in the Tower, then Sandro is better, or heroes like Isra, Vidomina as a "harvester," Vokial, Moandar, or, a little worse, Galtaran, Tamika – I've never used her.

Mos.keen

18 years ago

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I usually focus my strongest creatures, the Champions of the Realm, and then attack groups of Liches to maximize the splash damage. I use Vampires to eliminate the units I dislike the most, unless they are mechanical units. The most important thing is to assess the situation during the battle.

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18 years ago

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Mos.keen;132567

I usually focus my Champion of the Realm on the strongest enemy and then attack groups of Liches to get a good splash damage. I use Vampires to take out the enemies I dislike the most, unless they are mechanical units. The main thing is to observe the battle and adapt accordingly.

This is usually a standard approach against AI opponents, but human players will likely find a weakness in this tactic. I think everyone has played like this at some point, right?
P.S. This is not meant as criticism, it's just a tactic that works well against AI but might be more challenging against a human player.

Landalos

18 years ago

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Dragons are needed to eliminate liches and reduce morale by 1 :) And for FSO (Fortress, Sanctuary, and Order) as well.

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65RUS

18 years ago

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Valick;132069

Hello everyone! Can you tell me how to use magic twice in one turn during a battle? I really need to win against my neighbor... I've already lost to him 7 times in a row...
There's some button you have to hold down, and then you aim it at the hero in battle... you press it... and a book opens, and then you're good to go!!!:smile17:

It seems like you need to hold down the "C" key, which is the button that opens the magic book. But don't you want to win fairly? If I were in your shoes, I would go to the forum and start looking for: tactics for playing as a particular faction, or tactics for playing against a particular faction (find out which faction he likes to play), tactics for leveling up, accumulating troops, and look at polls to see which monsters are best at their levels, etc.
P.S. I would do it that way, because it's better to win fairly than to cheat!)))

badping

18 years ago

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Dragons are needed to eliminate Mages and reduce enemy morale by 1, as well as for overall defense.

Well, you can also use them to block enemy archers, if you can manage it... :) Despite their low hit points, they often draw a lot of attention, like a scarecrow: enemies will try to eliminate them at all costs, even humans. Consequently, Vampires take much less damage.

I don't see much point in making Mages the main focus. Unless it's an emergency, when there are no crystals or dragon stones nearby, and therefore no way to build Vampire Lords.

I don't understand the appeal of using Mages... Battles that Vampire Lords can easily win without losses become less advantageous when replaced with Mages: Skeletons suffer losses, and Mages themselves might take damage if enemies reach them in time.
In this case, you could probably combine Mages with Vampires, but that's only if you have nothing else to do and too much money.

Or, more profitably, build a second army with Mages and Knights, and use it to attack another direction. However, I consider this option risky: given that Necropolis armies move across the map at the speed of a wounded Estonian turtle (due to the Skeletons), there's a high chance of running into an enemy and not being able to escape in time...

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brovach

18 years ago

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Landalos;132579

Dragons are needed to block liches and give -1 to morale :) And for FSO (Fortress, Sanctuary, and Order) as well.

No. Without a dragon, the maximum speed will be with horses (9), which is very slow. The opponent can cast a mass slow/speed spell and manage to attack from a distance before the Necropolis units even get to move.

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badping

18 years ago

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brovach;132880

No. Without a dragon, the maximum speed will be with the horses (9), which is very low. The opponent can cast a mass slow/speed spell and manage to deal damage from a distance before the Necropolis units even get to move.

In my opinion, when playing as Necropolis, you should accept that you will most likely not have the first turn.
Therefore, you need to be prepared for such "unexpected events." Look for opportunities to engage in melee combat by any means: teleport Skeletons to the enemy, mass speed (although, in principle, if there is Teleport, you may not even need a mass spell - there are not that many powerful units in Necropolis anyway); dispel spells; use Tactics, etc.

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18 years ago

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and I feed the enemy to my dragons + I wait for them to get old, because they will be attacked if they are in the enemy's ranks, so the liches remain intact, which is better than dragons=)

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Mos.keen

18 years ago

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snipe;132575

This is usually a standard approach against the AI; players will likely find a weakness in this tactic. I guess everyone has played like this at some point?
P.S. This is by no means a criticism of your strategy; it's not a tactic suitable for defeating the AI, but I agree that it's more challenging to play against a human player, right?:D

No, of course, I don't always stick to this tactic. Especially if the opponent isn't a newbie. I simply assess the situation in the context of the battle: how much of what the opponent has, and then prioritize accordingly.

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brovach

18 years ago

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badping;133213

In my opinion, when playing as Necropolis, you should accept that you will most likely not have the first turn.
Therefore, you need to be prepared for such "unexpected events." Look for opportunities to engage in melee combat by any means: teleport Skeletons to the enemy, use mass haste (although, in principle, if you have Teleport, you can do without mass haste - there are not many powerful units in Necropolis anyway); dispel spells; use Tactics, etc.

This is understandable. But even if slowed, the dragon will still have a speed of 9, which means it will move faster than almost all enemy ranged units (who among the ranged units moves quickly? Wizards, Snipers, Titans, it seems like that's all), so there will be an opportunity to do something before they shoot you down (teleport/hasten/dispel).
Without dragons, the situation is worse - with a speed of 4, they will all thoroughly damage us from a distance, and only then will they give us a chance to move.

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