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#4953
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Perhaps it wasn't worth taking the situation too emotionally. And no one would have stopped you from responding with: "Well, go to hell, I'm waiting for a one-star rating on the local Google Maps." And even if you killed the master, even if he was just some loser, what would you do afterward? Go to jail and end the game with a bottle?
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Although, I'm judging without knowing the full lore of the game. I simply don't remember any instances where attacking non-hostile NPCs (not just guards, but vendors, blacksmiths, and others) led to anything good.
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#4956
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Kosh, Ney, and everyone else who has read this, let's also include this in the expansion. I can see that you all miss the good old days. And we miss playing the main quests, whether it's with two or three people, or even just one.
E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
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#4957
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He didn't attack; he just expressed his opinion.
А, вот почему.

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Neiko
Although, I'm judging without knowing the full lore of the game. I just don't remember any instances where attacking non-hostile NPCs (not guards, but vendors, blacksmiths, etc.) led to anything good.
In this game, there was a successful attack on a bartender. Since he didn't have a portrait, I immediately recognized that he wasn't a GM character. cool
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#4959
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Neiko
Maybe it wasn't worth taking the situation so emotionally. And no one forbade saying in response: "well, go to hell, I'm waiting for one star on local Google Maps."
Just read it there. They haven't gone too far yet. It was much more polite than "go to hell"...
Neiko
And even if you killed the master, even if he was just a loser, what would you do then? Go to jail and end the game with a bottle?
I didn't attack him. He attacked me. What to do? Go "where you need to" and explain the situation. If there is a right to self-defense in these "expowords" - good, if not - "goodbye"...
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#4960
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Count Orlov
Kosh, Ney, let's join the expedition too; I can tell you miss the good old days.
I would gladly join, but I have time constraints. And soon, there won't be enough time, or rather, there won't be any time at all for anything.
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Yashchur didn't attack; he just expressed what he thought.
So, he wasn't killed for attacking, but rather for a statement in the spirit of: "look for yourself in the local slums on Google Maps." My mistake.
In short, Yashchur just went to the wrong area and offended the wrong person.

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Overall, Yashchur, I sympathize that your first experience wasn't very successful. I could suggest simply creating a new champion if you don't want to play as a bare-bones hero, as that would be a completely different playthrough and might turn out better. But I suspect you already have a specific impression.

At one time, after the death of Livia, I also felt a bit negative. I was given a lecture on why Revan's experience is about hardcore gameplay and being prepared for your character to be severely punished for the slightest mistake at any moment. I took the information into account and continued playing as long as I could. Thanks to this, I experienced memorable situations like the fruit incident, zombification by cultists, and the "gachi-muchi" trips to the gym. I don't regret anything.
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#4961
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Neiko
Back in the day, after Livia's death, I was also a bit negative. I was given a series of lectures explaining that Revan's experience is all about hardcore gameplay and being prepared for your character to be severely punished for even the smallest mistake at any moment. I took this information into account and continued playing as long as I could. Thanks to this, I experienced memorable situations like the fruit incident, being zombified by cultists, and the hilarious trips to the gym. I don't regret anything.
This is what should have been discussed a year ago when I asked about the essence of the game, instead of telling me about "amazing randomness"...
When I signed up, I hoped to "avoid" all sorts of "gambling elements," but I didn't expect that I would be prevented from playing the way I want. And this "want" isn't about "becoming the best" or anything like that, but about "making the most of what the setting offers." Instead, it turned out to be: "Want to get your monocle back? Here's a month of imprisonment and a stat penalty. Want a bag? Here, you get nothing." Plus, it turns out that NPCs here aren't "on equal footing with player characters," but are on a "special level." No, this won't work...

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Overall, Yaschur, I sympathize that your first experience wasn't very good.
But it couldn't have "turned out well." If I had known how "everything is arranged" here, I wouldn't have even come close...
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Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#4962
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Well, there was an option to get a bag for 500 from a decent merchant. Usually, for such tasks, players' champions end up cleaning toilets or looking for any other part-time job that provides money and might lead to new, useful connections.
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Neiko
Well, there was an option to get a bag for 500 from a decent merchant. Usually, for such tasks, players' champions go around cleaning toilets or looking for any other part-time job that will provide money and may lead to new useful connections.
So, how was it structured? All the work was "on the front lines." I specifically went in and asked, "Are people needed in the fleet? If so, I agree to go, but give me at least 500 gold as a loan." The answer was, "First, sign up, and then we'll send you somewhere and give you something." This "approach" is not for me... I realized that this is exactly the essence of your expansions. But I only understood this now. I ruined my mood, and now I'm ruining it for others. And all of this could have been avoided...
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#4964
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I never imagined such a scenario. It would be interesting to go to a job interview in real life and say: "Give me 100 thousand right away (or any other random amount). And I'll figure out how to work it off later."

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But wait, there is such an option in the country with a one-time payment upon signing a contract...
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#4965
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In “real life,” there are more opportunities. At least that brazen character can be taken down unexpectedly. So, if we compare this to real life, then everyone should start with the stealth skill… That’s one thing. And secondly, I don't know of any company where they say, "First get hired, and then you'll find out what you'll be doing and how much you'll earn."
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#4966
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And secondly, I don't know of any company where they say, "First, get hired, and then you'll find out what you'll be doing and how much you'll be earning"...
You're just not familiar with the modern job market. There are a lot of such job openings now, especially for management positions.
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Actually, it was stated that they would determine the assignment based on the requirements of the designated role and skills, and then provide the appropriate equipment accordingly.
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