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18 years ago
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So... As a participant in Russian language and literature Olympiads (at the city level), I fully support the idea of promoting literacy :) Mistakes are too jarring to the eye, IMHO, but if a typo or misspelling was made intentionally, I think that's perfectly normal. However, I have many problems with commas, and accents always shift... But here, accents are not so important; correct spelling is more valuable.

P.S. Sorry for replying only now :o
А, вот почему.

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18 years ago
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nothing1
you guys are going to start talking in Albanian. )))

(in translation to Russian, this means something like "you probably won't succeed") :)
Land aus Blut im Aschenregen,
Wüst und leer und ohne Segen.
Hier bin ich durch dich gefangen,
Muss für dich durchs Feuer gehen.
Du siehst mich in Flammen stehen,
Glühend will ich dich empfangen.
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18 years ago
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you guys speak Albanian, huh. )))
Well, then it should be written like this:
"You guys still speak Albanian." And even that would be correct only from a grammatical point of view, but not from a lexical one. Instead of the verb "to speak," another (vulgar) synonym should be used as the basis, and we shouldn't forget about the phrase "scuki."
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18 years ago
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badping;128701
Nothing will come of it.
You'll end up speaking Albanian. )))

(In other words, "you probably won't succeed.") :)
"Nothing will come of it.
You'll end up speaking Albanian."


That's more accurate. A "C" in "Albanian":smile51:, but a solid "A+" in Russian (a punctuation mark is needed after "approximately" ;) ). This is what I was talking about – they can't even write properly in "Albanian":(. As a reminder, the rules of "Albanian" involve distortion based on the principle of "not how it's written, but how it's heard" wherever possible. That's why, for example, in the word "nas" (us), the "s" changes to "z" – before a vowel, sibilant consonants sound like voiced ones.:smile42:

P.S. But I don't understand what is supposed to not work out.:) We can easily write in "Albanian," in Russian, and even in "Prevedovian," but will all the "pankrats" be able to write in Russian, even if they want to?..

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I was beaten to it by Fireball while I was stuck in Heroes with a half-written post in the browser window...:D
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18 years ago
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This is what I was talking about – and people who use "olban" simply don't know how to write properly. As a reminder, the rules of "olban" involve distortion based on the principle of "not how it's written, but how it's heard" wherever possible. That's why, for example, in the word "nas" (us), the "s" changes to "z" – because before a vowel, sibilant consonants sound like voiced consonants.
I'm not very good at "olban," but you're definitely exaggerating with "how it's heard" and "wherever possible." I doubt anyone hears "eshche" (still) as "ishcho." And the concept of "how it's heard" is quite subjective. As chemists say when arguing about the color of a product, it all depends on the degree of color blindness. Therefore, many words allow for different spellings, but not all and not always, although I might have misunderstood something. In my not-so-long life, I've had the opportunity to study 5 languages (although with VERY different results), and I've come to the conclusion that the purer and more diverse a language is in its execution, the more beautiful it is. Therefore, "olban" can go "to hell."
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18 years ago
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Quite a good idea, write +1. And about this:
"yes, the game is actually very good. I liked that there is a teleporter in the Guild of Mercenaries leading to the dragons. There are dragons and running dragons. And there is also a cave with fire giants and ifrits, with encrypted notes on the walls, and the class is great."
I was surprised... lol. Sincerely, K0Lb@zzeR.
:smile13: [ТУРНИР] "Гонка за Лидером" :smile13:
:smile28: [M] "Я и моя тень" - "I am and my shadow" :smile28:
:smile16: "Быстрая смерть" - "Fast Death" :smile16:
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18 years ago
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Well, then it should be written like this:
"You'll still be speaking in Albanian here." And even then, it would only be correct from a grammatical point of view, but not from a lexical one. Instead of the verb "to speak," another (vulgar) synonym should be used as a basis, and we shouldn't forget about the phrase "scuki."

Well, there are probably different dialects. :D I'm not particularly good at them, to be honest.
and in Russian - a solid four with a plus

Danke. :D
Although, for one punctuation error, you could have given a 5 with a minus! :)
P.S. And in general, I didn't understand what shouldn't work for us. It will be easy for us to write in Albanian, in Russian, and even in "Prevedov," but will all "padonki" be able to write in Russian, even if they want to?..


Oh, well, I guess I didn't quite understand your goal. It was meant that forcing Albanians to write in Russian is incredibly difficult. :)
Land aus Blut im Aschenregen,
Wüst und leer und ohne Segen.
Hier bin ich durch dich gefangen,
Muss für dich durchs Feuer gehen.
Du siehst mich in Flammen stehen,
Glühend will ich dich empfangen.
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18 years ago
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Slohnish, after the word, there should be a colon instead of a comma.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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18 years ago
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eXeCuToR;128886
Little elephant, after the word "approximately," there should be a colon, not a comma.
What "approximately" are you talking about, if it's not a secret?:confused:

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Fireball;128740
I'm not very good at "olban," but you're definitely exaggerating about "how it sounds" and "everywhere possible." I doubt anyone hears "ishcho" in the word "eshche." And the concept of "how it sounds" is quite subjective. As chemists say when arguing about the color of the resulting product, it all depends on the degree of color blindness. Therefore, many words allow for different spellings, but not all and not always, although I may have misunderstood something.
I'm not exaggerating anything.:smile06: Let me introduce you to the definition of "olban" from a grammatical point of view:
The peculiarities of the "padonki" style lie in the deliberate violation of the norms of Russian orthography towards phonetic writing ("decorative transcriptions") - primarily, in shifting phonetically adequate forms towards orthographically incorrect ones - using "a" instead of unstressed "o" and vice versa, "i" instead of unstressed "e" and vice versa, "ts" instead of "ts," "ts," "ds," also "zhi" and "shi" instead of "zhi" and "shi," "shch" instead of "sch" and vice versa, "ya" instead of the initial "ya," "f" or "ff" instead of "v," the opposite use of voiced and unvoiced consonants, and also in merging words together without a space. It should be noted that replacing phonetically adequate words with distorted ones (for example, "preved" or "krosavcheg") is more related to the lexicon of "preveda" than to the jargon of "padonki."
In case anyone doesn't know: "phonetic writing" is the embodiment of the principle "not how it is written, but how it sounds." We Russians are not alone in this perversion: few have not read pearls like "all 4 u," which is also an example of phonetic writing.
About "ishcho" - I specifically made the caveat "where possible." Many words in Russian are phonetically correct, that is, they sound the same as they are written. But they also need to be distorted in order not to violate the style of "olban"! :smile04:
Fireball;128740

In my not-so-long life, I had the opportunity to study 5 languages (although with VERY different results), and I have come to the conclusion that the cleaner and more diverse a language is in its execution, the more beautiful it is. Therefore, "olban" should go "fftopku."
Yes, if only... For now, it's not going anywhere, except perhaps into the mainstream.:( And the expression "great and mighty Russian language" is used exclusively with a sarcastic undertone.
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18 years ago
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badping
(in Russian, this roughly translates to "you probably won't succeed").
Clonish
(a punctuation mark is needed after "roughly").

Although I seem to have made a mistake, and that's exactly what you meant))) I associate a punctuation mark specifically with a comma))) I apologize.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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18 years ago
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I guess I made a mistake, and that's exactly what you meant. For me, a punctuation mark is associated with a comma.

Wow... and I also joined the group! :D
Land aus Blut im Aschenregen,
Wüst und leer und ohne Segen.
Hier bin ich durch dich gefangen,
Muss für dich durchs Feuer gehen.
Du siehst mich in Flammen stehen,
Glühend will ich dich empfangen.
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18 years ago
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Okay... shush!:D It's not my fault that I have these associations))) I at least try to minimize the number of mistakes I make.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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18 years ago
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2Slonysh
It’s intriguing, though. Did our domestic linguists quickly come up with such an interpretation (I doubt that many linguists among the “padonki” participated in creating the dialect)? Or is this your own elaborate invention?
I heard about phonetic writing back in school, but in my humble opinion, “olbansky” is too exaggerated and distorted a form of it, if it even is one. After all, all 4 u really does sound like all for your, and ICQ sounds like I seek your. And it’s often much harder to pronounce a phrase in “olbansky” than in Russian.
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18 years ago
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After all, "all 4 u" actually sounds like "all for your," and ICQ sounds like "I seek your."

I seek you.
It really does sound impressive. :)
Land aus Blut im Aschenregen,
Wüst und leer und ohne Segen.
Hier bin ich durch dich gefangen,
Muss für dich durchs Feuer gehen.
Du siehst mich in Flammen stehen,
Glühend will ich dich empfangen.
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18 years ago
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Yes, I agree to join. But the "language of jerks" is primarily taught by the internet and by people. Even someone who knows how to spell a word correctly from school, after seeing it misspelled a couple of thousand times online, starts to subconsciously write it incorrectly and only notices the mistake after writing it. Or, after posting on a forum, they only notice the error but can't correct it. Or, trying to write faster and save time, they make mistakes not because they don't know how to spell the word, but because they are typing using the so-called "blind method" and often hit the keys next to the ones they need. This often happens to me too. So, people don't always make mistakes intentionally.;) That's why I'm writing this post slowly now, to avoid typos.:D And in general, ICQ also greatly contributes to the "language of jerks," as everyone has probably noticed how difficult it is to communicate in proper Russian in ICQ because it takes so long. For example, this led to abbreviations like "щас" (shchas) for "сейчас" (seychas) and so on. And if you communicate a lot via ICQ, you start to write these words automatically. Although, at the same time, you know how they are spelled correctly, but your fingers already write them in the way that is convenient and faster.;) In general, I think that with the emergence of new high technologies (the internet, etc.), the language will naturally change. Just as the language changed in the 18th and 19th centuries (instead of "ежели" we now say "если"). The only question is whether it will change for the better or for the worse – that's up to us.;)

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