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But what about people who, for health reasons, are deprived of this opportunity? Does it follow from your worldview that nothing remains for them but various forms of self-suggestion?
- It does. A healthy body, a healthy mind, and vice versa. Any bodily defect limits a person's spiritual health, and this one limits it more than many others. Author
- I agree with the General thesis about learning from the experience of the past, although I am not sure if it is in the same context. Traditions and culture also tend to change under the influence of both external and internal factors. They also differ from place to place, and sometimes very much. Two radically different cultures can coexist peacefully, drawing on the past, despite their many differences. Or do you perceive the constants you mentioned as the basis for any society, no matter how much its order differs from another?
- No culture, except for those that go against nature – the undead, for example – can exist without participating in the process of continuity and succession of life. In order to pass on their experience and the experience of their ancestors, and with it, customs, it is necessary to continue their lineage, preferably in a complete family, so there are no radically different cultures in this aspect of human activity.
Added 9 minutes later Morning
Aiyano spends a few seconds assessing the aura, along with its physical and mental state, and scans the room for any unpleasant surprises or holes in the floor.
- Hey, can you finally let me go? - replied the dark-haired, physically unharmed prisoner. - I don't really like flashing my underwear to strangers. Aiyano finds no unpleasant surprises.
I've been driving all day, so sorry for the slow responses.Author
- As long as there are good times and stability, yes, but we can only thank the last two emperors and everyone who worked for such a present.
-- In general, I must once again note your strong sense of patriotism, Sir Shen... It seems that I used to think of you differently, not knowing about this factor, so I even feel sorry that we are, in a sense, competing. Or maybe there's no need for all this? We could develop a document on eternal alliance, peace, and friendship, seal it with a stamp, and together strive for a bright, great future for everyone, both Mindjin and Margel? Why is espionage, secrets, and everything else needed? Perhaps it would be socially beneficial to simply try to get along with each other as much as possible? With your level of respect for the Margel dynasty, this doesn't seem like a fantasy.Author
- It mentioned a comfortable life, what exactly does this mean - we, the inhabitants of the distant future, can only guess, but it may well mean spiritual balance. For my part, I can assume that the life of Lorencia after her meeting with King Flanaravi has hardly changed, especially if her passion in life was singing, which the unexpected changes she experienced were unlikely to hinder. In other words, I think that her fate has been excessively dramatized by some of you.
-- The absence of change is also a minus for many people, -- the redhead replied instantly. -- Maybe she dreamed of a big tour, but ended up with a freeze on the current state. She dreamed of great love, but it turned out that she lost the opportunity to find it, because even in such conditions, marriage is sacred, and "love" that contradicts duty is not real love?Author
- In other words, if the ruler of the empire offered to marry him, would you categorically refuse or at least consider fulfilling your duty to him to be unworthy of you? This is a very unusual position for a loyal knight of the crown, because it turns out that you are not acting out of a sense of loyalty, but solely because of a desire to fulfill a certain role that is pleasant to you.
-- No, first, I would realistically consider the consequences of refusal. Secondly, if I really had a choice, I would proceed from how much the hypothetical ruler sees a personal aspect in marriage with me, and not a political one. Just like in the case of Ixia, whom you also praised: they met, they got along, and as a result, they lived long and happily. If a person swears eternal love to someone in the face of Anuzish, then let these words be sincere, let him love the person to whom he swears, and not his throne... Not in the sense of renouncing love for the throne, but the feeling for a person and the feeling of duty must act independently of each other, both being important, and not just one. Otherwise, it's all a lie, and the procedure itself loses all meaning.
-- As for my goals, of course, I am fulfilling a role that is pleasant to me, and aren't you? This includes a sense of loyalty and honor, but my loyalty is not independent of who I show it to. I was lucky to serve under Her Highness the Suzerain, who is amazing in all her aspects, in such conditions even discussing hypothetical infidelity seems absurd to me. But if my feudal lord were such that serving him would tarnish my honor more than not serving, then I would prefer not to serve him.
-- I must say, however, that in the history of Welfern, there have been almost no emperors for whom the above reasoning would be relevant. Our country is surprisingly clean in its history.Author
- The ancestors of this person overcame cold and hunger, fought with celestial beings and each other, built a society and a state, of which he is a part from birth and to which he owes everything he is, and he is not interested? Let him first fulfill his duty to his family and homeland, and then do what he wants.
-- He deserves censure -- that's true. Pity? Hardly. Except perhaps for the fact that he was born or raised with a strange worldview.Author
- Personal well-being depends on the well-being of society, and the well-being of society depends on personal well-being, and as long as we are not hermits, we must care about the common good as much as about our own personal good. A functioning state cannot be built on excessive individualism.
-- You are saying everything correctly, but this is not a counterargument to what I said earlier. There is a sphere of feelings, there is a sphere of reason -- they are different, and neither can be completely subordinate to the other. At the emotional level, you want your expectations to match reality, and we grieve for those who did not get it. At the rational level, you understand that reality is a thing in itself and deaf to our feelings, so not having expectations, or having knowingly pessimistic expectations, is the best strategy.Author
- Actually, no, today is the last day. That's why I decided to show up to you to officially meet and then say goodbye.
-- Well, that's how it is... But, of course, this does not mean that someone else will not be sent in your place.)Author
- What specific flaw that is not characteristic of you do I associate with your group?
-- In a conversation with Beata and Guion, you explain the need for procreation based on the fact that otherwise there is a great risk of indulging in other "pleasures characteristic of irrational animals," but you do this in our library, clearly observing with your own eyes that there is not even a hint of irrationality or animality here... So, this is not an argument. I'm sorry, but in this case, defending the honor of my subordinates is my duty, children and the continuation of the family is wonderful, and I will be happy if I also experience this part of life (although I am already happy), but... I will defend the freedom of everyone to do as they see fit.
"Besides, Beata is just shy, she is not against the idea. So don't embarrass her... She will come to terms with it herself if everything is fine with her health and life expectancy."
While Ayano was occupied with the prisoner, Sonata decided to inspect the cabinets containing equipment and other devices designed for various interactions with the coven's victims.
In the first cabinet, she found:
- Pliers, wire cutters, and tongs;
- Nails and screws;
- Scalpels;
- A set of screwdrivers;
- An axe;
- Knives of various lengths and shapes;
- Several types of saws;
- A set of hammers;
- A note:
"These tools in this room are NOT to be used on prisoners."
In the second cabinet, she found:
- A set square;
- A measuring tape;
- A stepladder;
- Shovels and trowels;
- A plunger;
In the third cabinet, she found:
- An enema;
- Syringes;
- Phallic substitutes;
- Plugs;
- Ropes;
In the fourth cabinet, she found a variety of vials containing unknown liquids and medications.
In the fifth cabinet, she found:
- XXX dice;
- Various clothing items;
- Miscellaneous junk and Sonatina's ring.
The sixth cabinet turned out to be a storage room with building materials.
There was also a wooden horse and a couple of other devices of a specific purpose.
-- In general, I must once again note your strong sense of patriotism, Sir Shen... I think I previously misjudged you, not knowing about this factor, so it is almost a pity that we are, in a sense, competing. Or perhaps there is no need for all this? We could develop a paper on eternal union, peace, and friendship, seal it, and together strive for a bright, great future for everyone, both Mindjna and Margel? Why are espionage, secrets, and all the rest needed; perhaps it would be socially beneficial to simply adapt to each other as much as possible? With your level of respect for the Margelian dynasty, this doesn't seem like fantasy.
- You had the opportunity for joint cooperation with us, and simultaneously the salvation of Kridear and all its inhabitants from the catastrophe that befell them, but you decided not to take it, so there is nothing left to discuss in that regard now. Author
-- The absence of change is also a downside for many people, -- the redhead replied instantly. -- Perhaps she dreamed of a grand tour, but what happened was a freeze of the current state. Dreamed of a great love, but it turned out that she lost the chance to find it, because even in such conditions marriage is sacred, and "love" that contradicts duty is not true love?
- As a child, I dreamed of becoming a dragon, but life decided otherwise. True love is not something that happens suddenly, but something built over the years; therefore, if she failed to establish it with her spouse, she would not have succeeded with anyone else. Author
-- No, firstly, I would realistically consider the consequences of refusal. Secondly, if I truly had a choice, I would base it on how much this hypothetical ruler sees the personal aspect in a marriage with me, rather than the political aspect. Just as in the case of Ixia, whom you also praised: they met, their characters clicked, and in the end, they lived long and happily. If a person swears eternal love to someone before Anuzish, then let those words be sincere, let him love the person to whom he swears, and not his throne... Not in the sense of abandoning love for the throne, but the feeling for a person and the sense of duty should act independently of each other, both having significance, rather than just one. Otherwise, it is all a lie and the procedure itself loses all meaning.
-- As for my goals, of course, I perform a role that is pleasant to me, and you do not? This includes a sense of loyalty and honor, but my loyalty is not independent of whom it is shown to. I am lucky to serve under the command of Her Highness the Suzerain, amazing in absolutely all her aspects; under such conditions, even the discussion of hypothetical disloyalty seems absurd to me. But if my feudal lord were such that serving him would drop my honor more than not serving, then I would prefer not to serve him.
- Now answer me in the context of the situation under discussion; why complicate everything so much? Let's assume, while maintaining all other conditions and parameters of the relationship and shared past, your suzerain was a man, not a woman, and tomorrow he told you that he was taking you as his wife—how would you act in such a situation and what emotions would you experience? Author
-- He deserves condemnation -- that is a truth. Regret? Hardly. Except perhaps that he was born or raised with a strange perception of the world.
- But is it not our duty to demand something different from him? If you have a gluttonous friend suffering from overweight problems, then indulging his bad habits would be a betrayal of friendship. Even though you are friends, telling him that he looks great and that there is nothing wrong with his lifestyle will help preserve your friendship, but it will do him harm, not good. Author
-- Everything you say is correct, but it is not a counter-argument to what I said earlier. There is a sphere of feelings, and there is a sphere of reason -- they are different, and neither can be completely subordinated to the other. On an emotional level, one wants their expectations to match reality, and we grieve for those who did not receive that. On a rational level, however, one understands that reality is a thing in itself and deaf to our feelings, so having no expectations, or having deliberately pessimistic expectations, is the best strategy.
- To be honest, I don't understand what you are trying to say here. It's probably something cultural. Author
-- I see... But of course, that does not mean that someone else won't be sent instead of you. )
- Anything is possible. Author
In a conversation with Beata and Guillon, you explain the necessity of procreation based on the fact that otherwise there is a great risk of turning to other pleasures "typical of irrational animals," but you do this in our library, clearly observing with your own eyes that there is no smell of the irrational or the animal here...
- A debatable statement, for mindless consumption of literature just to pass the time is no better than gluttony and other vices associated with a lack of moderation. But fine, let's leave it at that. Author
Forgive me, but in this case, standing up for the honor of my subordinates is my duty; children and the continuation of the lineage are wonderful, and I will be happy if I taste this part of life as well (though I am happy as I am), but... I will defend the freedom of everyone to act as they see fit.
- In that case, do not be surprised if some regions of the empire find it necessary to separate from the empire and go their own way. If every person has the freedom you describe, then a group of people does too, right?
- As a child, I dreamed of becoming a dragon, but life had other plans. True love isn't something that happens suddenly; it's something that builds over the years.
At this point, the couple exchanged glances, suddenly realizing that this guy could actually say something smart and meaningful.
- You had the opportunity to collaborate with us and, at the same time, to save Crider and all its inhabitants from the disaster that befell them, but you decided not to take advantage of it, so now there is nothing to talk about in this regard.
After these words from the spy, all thoughts about possible responses to their own line of discussion vanished from the Tanaarian's mind. First, she cast a worried glance at Klin, and then a look full of doubt at Erefir, and hurried towards the mountain knight. Even though he was currently in a "depressed" state, as he liked to put it, even the current Criderian might feel sick after such news. — Erefir, this isn't true, is it? — the inquisitor's voice held notes of hope that this was just a manipulation by the spy, an attempt to sow discord within their united group. "She can't just stand there and seriously discuss how the need to enter into a dynastic marriage tarnishes her honor, but the need to sacrifice a region doesn't? There must be some hidden meaning here, right?"
- You had the opportunity to cooperate with us and, at the same time, to save Crider and all its inhabitants from the disaster that befell them, but you decided not to take advantage of it, so there is nothing to talk about in this regard now.
After a perfectly friendly dialogue, an innocent joke, and praise, did the interlocutor raise his hand to slap him? There couldn't be a worse moment – for him, who himself showed why cooperation on his terms and for their, Mindjin, purposes was not even seriously considered.
Erephir said nothing, but at that moment she felt a little sorry for the senator's son. Before whom did he suddenly decide to show off, and what was he trying to prove? It's unknown.
Author
- And in my childhood, I dreamed of becoming a dragon, but life decided otherwise. True love is not something that happens suddenly, but something that is built up over the years, so if she could not establish it with her spouse, then she would not be able to do so with anyone else.
-- Love is a two-way feeling, and both must make an effort. The first step on the path of these efforts is to at least try to understand the other person's feelings. Trying to understand is incompatible with ultimatums. It's simple.Author
- Well, answer me in the context of the situation we are discussing, why make things so complicated? Let's say that, with all other conditions and parameters of the relationship and shared past remaining the same, your suzerain was a man, not a woman, and tomorrow he tells you that he is taking you as his wife, how would you act in such a situation, and what emotions would you experience?
-- This is a completely different situation compared to what the queen-singer had, and in general, the level of fantasy in it is off the charts, but how could I refuse? It is better, however, not to conduct such thought experiments; I serve whom I serve, and the Suzerain is She who She is.
-- And I don't see any complications here; in my opinion, my motivation is as simple as it can be.Author
- But isn't it our duty to demand something else from him? If you have a gluttonous friend who suffers from weight problems, indulging his bad habits would be a betrayal from the point of view of friendship. Even if you are friends, telling him that he looks great and that there is nothing wrong with his lifestyle will help preserve your friendship, but it will harm him, not benefit him.
-- It depends on many factors; I could say it, I could not. In an ideal case, I would consider the option of inspiring this person who is important to me to get rid of his habit, in such a way that he does not feel pressure and considers it his own decision. But it is not my duty; I am not a gendarme to my friends; it is just something that would give me pleasure.Author
To be honest, I don't understand what you are trying to say here. It's probably something cultural.
-- Perhaps.
"The concept of feelings is not clear to him; that's interesting."Author
But let's leave it at that.
"Well, of course, I will fight for my own until the end, because my honor is in them, and you know that. It is more reasonable to surrender immediately."Author
In that case, don't be surprised if some regions of the empire decide to separate from the empire and go their own way. If each person has the freedom you describe, then a group of people does too, right?
-- Do you have such plans? Well, generalizing personal freedoms to politics does not always work, so... Who knows? If we think in terms of the good of all, then it is obvious that in different situations, it is possible to do things differently.
- Don't worry, we don't pay attention to them. But we don't have to remain strangers. What's your name?... Let's see what we have here..." - she (for now) examines the straps/clasps on her hands to figure out how to get rid of them, but she does it a little slower than she could (but not in a way that looks like she's deliberately searching). - What brings you here; or have you just arrived?
At the same time, she tries to remember if there was any signage at the entrance, indicating what this particular room might be used for.
— Erathia, this isn't true, is it? — the inquisitor's voice held a hint of hope that this was just a manipulation by the spy.
The Knight looked at Riya in surprise, then at the illegal spy, who was openly stating that his interests were opposite to those of the empire, and who had previously launched a provocation about the "resting place," and dramatically waved her hand.
— Alaria, forgive me, but do I really need to explain this to you?
The Knight looked at Riya in surprise, then at the illegal spy, who was directly stating that his interests were opposite to those of the empire, and who had previously spread provocative rumors about the "resting place," and dramatically waved her hand.
-- Alaria, excuse me, but do I really need to explain this to you?
There was no doubt in Alaria's mind that Shen Shao's interests were opposite to those of Welfern, otherwise he wouldn't have been spying on Carneol. And the very fact of his confession, if true, did not paint him in a good light. He could have saved the Kredeans, but he didn't. It was clear why, but after such revelations, there could be no affection from the squad towards him. It was all the more strange that the redhead was willing to greet the "guest" with tea and coffee. However, if Erefir was trying to say that their interlocutor was lying, then... he had revealed himself to the redhead before. She admitted it herself. There was no reason to believe him on his word, but the commander was also inclined to hide many things from them. If Erefir was hinting at the consequences of cooperating with Mindjin, then the inquisitor understood her perfectly. To maintain the well-being of themselves and their subjects, empires sometimes had to sacrifice the well-being of others. She knew this from Reimu and that "Morpheus" mission in Areida. These are the realities of life. However, when it directly affected your close friend, it was difficult to control your emotions. Even if you understood everything with your mind. — No way, — regaining her composure and standing next to Klin, in case he needed moral support, Alaria shook her head negatively. "That's probably how Halmeldirs come about. I hope Klin can be saved from this fate by reminding him of what is most important. Because I don't want this story to repeat itself at all, and the mountaineer is already listening to Shen Shao's words like a boy."
- Don't worry, we're not paying attention to you. But we don't have to remain strangers. What's your name?... Let me see... - she (for now) examines the clasps/latches on her hands to figure out how to get rid of them, but she does it a little slower than she could (but not in a way that looks like she's deliberately searching). - What brings you here? Or have you arrived recently? At the same time, she tries to remember if there was any sign at the entrance, what this particular room might be used for.
- Before asking someone else's name, you should introduce yourself, you know?... - After silently observing Sonata examining the contents of the cabinets, the captive returned her attention to Aiyano. - I am Lovra Untroye. Once, I decided to travel through the regions of the empire to get to know the country I live in better, and a few months ago, my journey led me to Argheim, one of the cities of Villia. There, I was lucky, as I thought at the time, to meet the grandmaster of the knights of this region. Being a warrior in the fifteenth generation, I had many questions for such a renowned knight, and I mistakenly trusted him, only to end up first on board his airship and then in the halls of this godforsaken organization. I hope I won't have to tell you what fate befell me here? There was no sign at the entrance, but judging by the inventory, unlike the first room, this room was used for non-hazardous sessions.
Added 26 minutes later - Well, it seems that my company is no longer welcome here, even though I haven't said anything new. - Looking at her watch, Shen Shao made sure that the hour hand had passed midnight. - My mission is now over. Goodbye, ladies and gentlemen, I will definitely tell my wife and son about you, such unusual characters. After that, the spy opened one of the windows and jumped out of it.
"Poor woman," the Thanarian thought, upon hearing the spy's final words.
After all the verbal provocations from the Mindjin, Alaria expected that, as his last act before disappearing, he would ostentatiously throw a thick purse containing several thousand rems at Klin, as if to help restore Kridear. A final act of manipulation before saying goodbye. If he had been a little more cunning, he might even have done it without mentioning that he could somehow protect the peaceful mountaineers from danger. However, Shen gained much more today than he lost. Not only did he entertain himself with conversations and interesting reading, but he also obtained important information for his father. He outplayed and destroyed, as some like to say.
- No, that won't be necessary; it's obvious anyway. And that's quite enough, thank you. Hmm, yes, let's do it this way... - she (for now) tests the katana's blade to see how best to cut the ropes without cutting or slashing her palms before adding, - Just allow me one more small clarification. This... your, hmm... - she clicked her fingers, remembering the word, then nodded. - Grandmaster. Why isn't he here with you now?
- Well, it seems my company is no longer welcome here, even though I haven't revealed anything new. - Looking at his watch, Shen Shao made sure that the hour hand had passed midnight. - My mission is now over. Farewell, ladies and gentlemen, I will definitely tell my wife and son about you, such unusual characters. After that, the spy opened one of the windows and jumped out.
"More."
- Alas. Please send our greetings to the worthy Lady Na, - in this polite farewell, there was not only friendliness towards the cunning book-selling rogue, but also several other, more subtle layers, such as "there are worthy people in Mindjin, it's just a pity that you are not one of them." However, according to etiquette, the words of the Nozenro cannot be used against her, and the formalities were observed.
The knight had to regret a little that, unlike their previous conversation, she had not managed to obtain any valuable information... For example, it would have been very pleasant to know how Shen planned to defend Kridear from the dragon. Erefir was hoping that during the conversation, the senator's son would reinforce his words with some kind of demonstration in order to create more discord in their group. But no. Perhaps he didn't really want to destroy their morale, and it happened spontaneously, or his means of dragon defense are too secret to be revealed for any purpose.
But in the end... During the verbal battle, the Carnelian Fortress was protected from the audacious intruder, but at a cost... Poor Klin. It is unknown whether he believed Shao or not, but the good servant of the crown had his soul stirred again for no reason. And, no matter how unpleasant it was to admit, Erefir also felt a bitterness in her mouth from being reminded of her sins. You can reassure yourself and those around you as much as you like that everything was done correctly, that negotiations are not conducted with terrorists, and so on, but when there is a living example of the consequences of your decision nearby, a person who is under your command and trusts you, you will inevitably think that, yes, you are not such a knight, Erefir Linel Darvining, as you could have been.
- I must say that there are no uninteresting characters in our environment, - she concluded, pursing her lips, as Shen left. - I will be in my room working on an essay.