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Which Tier 3 unit is the best?
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Royal Griffin
23.4% 15 votes
Great Elf
51.6% 33 votes
Steel Golem
3.1% 2 votes
Cerberus
6.3% 4 votes
Summoning
0% 0 votes
Evil Eye
6.3% 4 votes
Orc Chieftain
0% 0 votes
Dragonfly
6.3% 4 votes
Ice Elemental
3.1% 2 votes
Mummy
0% 0 votes
Nomad
0% 0 votes
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SpiriTT;126195
In a one-on-one fight, the Necropolis ghosts will tear anyone apart, but I think the Sylvan dragonflies are better. (Although Cerberuses are strong, if they could fly...)

Try pitting your ghosts against your Cerberuses..., then write down the result of the 1-on-1 fight...
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I believe that the first place among level 3 creatures rightfully belongs to: 1. Elves 2. Griffins (they attack in a pack, so they're quite strong) 3. Golem (it's hard to kill with magic) and Cerberus (you just need to position it correctly, and that's it) 4. In my opinion, Dragonfly deserves this place, as well as Eye. 5. Ghost (full regeneration is a good thing, but due to the small amount of health, it makes it useless). 6. Ice Elemental and Orc. P.S. This is just my personal opinion.
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2 Freeman: And are Cerberuses even on your list? Don't you think they deserve to be at least in the top 3?
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Does he have Cerberuses in his list? I don't think Orcs should be underestimated; they're not bad archers. One-on-one battles don't determine anything, but a group of them can definitely take on a group of ghosts. What's the point of considering 1-on-1 battles? I think it's better to look at armies, which is a much more common scenario.
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It might be reasonable to consider them based on the number and compatibility of your army, but even then, they don't really fit into the list of the best. Their damage is weak, they are slow, and they are often simply unnecessary.
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I don't think griffons are better:
1. Large increase (even more than level 2 griffons – of course, if there is a Griffin Bastion... although maybe this should be attributed not to the griffons themselves, but to the advantages of the city).
2. Good stats.
3. Defense against all attacks.
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Well, they are definitely better than Orcs, but they can't handle Elves; they can only manage it with two decent shots.
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I'm talking about griffins. Where are the elves in first place? I don't see them... Are you talking about the voting results or the list written by Freeman?
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So, considering all of this based on just the 3rd level units: Cerberuses: attack 10, defense 8, damage 2-7, health 25, speed 8; Griffins: attack 9, defense 9, damage 3-6, health 25, speed 9; Elves: attack 9, defense 5, damage 3-5, health 15, speed 7; Golems: attack 9, defense 10, damage 4-5, health 35, speed 5; Spirits: attack 7, defense 7, damage 3-5, health 18, speed 7; Eyes: attack 10, defense 8, damage 3-5, health 22, speed 7; Orcs: attack 8, defense 4, damage 2-5, health 20, speed 5; Snakes: attack 8, defense 10, damage 2-5, health 20, speed 13; Ice Elves: attack 8, defense 10, damage 3-7, health 30, speed 6 Based on these stats, we can see that: 1) In terms of speed, nothing can match the Snakes. 2) In terms of health, Golems are in the lead. 3) Ice Elementals deal the most damage. 4) Eyes and Cerberuses have the highest attack. 5) Golems, Snakes, and Ice Elementals have the highest defense. However, almost all of them have an ability. Considering this, no 3rd-level unit can withstand an ability like "enemy does not retaliate." This ability covers both stats and turn priority, therefore, the Cerberus is a very good unit
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3-Golem (you won't kill it with magic) and Cerberus (you just need to position it correctly, and voila)

Well, Cerberus exists, and as you can see, it even made it into the top 3.
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each unit is good in its own way and is used in "its" situations. Well, the fact that archers always rule is undeniable. IMHO. But Orcs, Ogres, and Ice Golems are far behind Elves, so among archers, Elves are the coolest. P.S. It's not right to compare melee and ranged units like that; each has its own task during battle. IMHO. Sincerely, K0Lb@zzeR.
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2 Ley
I like your approach; it's well-reasoned and balanced.
However, I'd like to add some purely PRACTICAL clarifications.
1. Considering the ability (unanswered three-headed strike), I would say that Cerberuses inflict the most damage. With a blessing, they are truly beasts. And besides that, when firing, elves deal 6-10 (two shots), which immediately puts them in first place. However, in melee combat, they end up last...
2. Considering the ability (unanswered strike) in terms of "durability" (I have also repeatedly used the terms "survivability," "viability"), along with golems, I would again put Cerberuses in first place. By this parameter, I mean the number of survivors after the battle. The parameter is purely intuitive, a kind of mix of health, defense, and ability. Simply put, Cerberuses receive almost twice as few hits (they don't get retaliated against)... In addition, ghosts are very interesting in terms of the same parameter.

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P.S. It's not correct to compare melee and ranged units in this way; each has its own task during battle. IMHO.
The Royal Air Force (Griffins and Dragonflies) will completely destroy any archers of their level... both in terms of strength and quantity.

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