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Offline Heroes 3 Tournament
"Race for the Leader"[/SIZE]
1. To participate in the "Race for the Leader" offline tournament, you must register at www.heroesworld.ru and leave an application for participation in this thread.
Example:
I want to become a participant of the tournament.
Please register me for the tournament.


2. The tournament is held on the Russian version of Heroes 3: "The Shadow of Death" with patch 3.2. It is also possible to play on version 4.0 (from Buka's Platinum Collection). Saves will be generated on version 4.0.

Sequence of actions for participating in the tournament:
1. Download save.
2. The downloaded Save must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder of the installed Heroes 3.
3. Load it (load via the campaigns menu) and start playing at any time convenient for you, while remembering to make daily saves (at the beginning and end of the day).
4. After completing the final action (which leads to victory), you must save again.
Note: The final save should only contain those heroes who participate in the mission, i.e., heroes required by the campaign plot. (There may be 2-3, depending on the specific mission). Other heroes must be DISMISSED. As an exception: It is permitted to leave ONE non-plot hero, but only if the non-plot hero performs the final action that leads to victory.
And another revised quote from Sage:
Everything is clearly written in the rules.
1. Only plot heroes move to the next mission (For example, for mini-tournament 1-1: Gem).
2. In addition to these heroes, in the final save you can leave 1 more hero, if this hero is needed to perform the winning action (attack on the last enemy hero/castle).
3. If you have plot heroes on the map in your save (For example, for mini-tournament 1-1: Gem) and one additional hero, then the sum of parameters will be calculated for that hero who has the higher value.
5. With the final save, describe this last step in detail (most likely a battle), so that the results can be processed faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!
6. A full description of the tournament map is encouraged (optional). If such descriptions are provided, a contest for the best description will be held; 10 of them (the very best) will take their place of honor in the "Hall of Fame" section!
7. Provide this save to the tournament organizer.
8. Wait for the results.3. Tournament Concept: The tournament will be conducted across ALL campaigns of "The Shadow of Death".
The tournament will consist of 36 mini-tournaments (the total number of missions in the campaigns, i.e., 7 stages). For the first mini-tournament, a save will be generated for the first mission of the first campaign. Subsequent saves for the current mini-tournament will be generated from the save of the winner of the previous mini-tournament, and so on.
The winner of the current mini-tournament will be the player who has the maximum number of points according to the formula below. At the end of each tournament stage, a LEADER for that stage will be determined. And at the end of all 36 mini-tournaments, an ABSOLUTE LEADER of the tournament will be determined.

During the "Race for the Leader" tournament, participants will also be awarded points for each mini-tournament according to the following scheme (the winner of the mini-tournaments will be determined by this scheme):
1. A participant who has applied for the tournament will be given 0 starting points.
2. At the end of each mini-tournament, a participant will be awarded points for the mini-tournament according to the formula:
Points = ((Days_l + (0.5 * Params_p) / 396 + (0.25 * Mercury_p) / 200 + (0.125 * Gold_p) / 1000000 + (0.0625 * Castles_p) / 48) * 1000) / Days_p
Where:
Days_l – Number of days the leader spent completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Days_p - Number of days the player spent completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Params_p – Sum of hero parameters (attack, defense, magic, knowledge) INCLUDING EQUIPPED ARTIFACTS, accumulated by the player while completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Mercury_p – Amount of mercury accumulated by the player while completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Castles_p – Number of castles captured by the player while completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Gold_p - Amount of gold remaining in the participant's "stash" while completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
3. Current points will be calculated as an average between the previous result and the current one.
Also, at the end of each mini-tournament, a Player Rating will be awarded.


4. The tournament starts on 01.11.2007. 21 days will be given for the completion of each mini-tournament (Break between mini-tournaments - 30 days). Saves are not accepted after a mini-tournament has ended. Only one final save is accepted from the player.
Results of the completed mini-tournament will be published one day before the start of the next mini-tournament.

5. The final save should be named according to the template: GL_Mini-tournament Number _Table Number_player nickname.CGM /Write the mini-tournament number with a hyphen/ (for example, GL_1-1_1_K0Lb@zzeR.CGM) and send it to K0Lb@zzeR's mailbox /Death to search bots looking for E-MAIL addresses/. And another earnest request: when sending saves, specify the name of the save itself in the subject line (for example: GL_1-1_1_K0Lb@zzeR.CGM)) so that the anti-spam bot does not accidentally delete your email.
Together with the sent save, you must provide a description of the final step (battle with a hero, battle for a castle, capturing an artifact, victory over the last monster) after which victory occurs or the scenario is completed.

6. Discussion of the tournament during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players who violate this rule automatically exclude themselves from playing in the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).

7. Restrictions:
1. Forbidden: buying back your dismissed heroes on the same day (i.e., using the "dismissal-buyback" trick);
it is also forbidden to buy heroes who died in battle (do not confuse with those who fled)!

2. Forbidden: digging up the Grail without a fully opened puzzle map.

3. Forbidden: using cheat programs, codes, BUGs, as well as additional programs that can change the game structure.
The full list of tournament rules and BUGs can always be read here:
Offline Tournament Rules + FAQ
In case a week of "+5 monsters X" or a month of "monster X" occurs, the player must not replay the transition of the week/month.

8. In case of suspicion of cheating or other malicious intent while completing the map, a save must be made every game day.
In such a case (detection of cheating), the player will be required to send additional saves and provide a walkthrough description to the tournament organizer to determine whether the play was unfair or fair.
The result of a player who played unfairly is annulled, and their further participation in tournaments will be impossible. This will also reflect poorly on their reputation.

9. The use of two "automators" is permitted in the tournament:
1) Hero-digger
2) Ballista-killer Visual aid HERE.

After your save is received, you will see in the application table that:
save accepted (received by addressee) - by bold nickname
save with problems for verification and review - by italic red nickname
save counted - by underlined nickname
List of Tournament Participants
Tournament Participant Number
Tournament Participant Nickname
Rating for Last Stage
48
Перполькен
926.43
13
DARK_DRAGON
0
12
kj1313
273.52
80
Andrey44_44
0
26
Dirty_Player
956.74
81
Айвенго
0
82
Lexus_slk
0
83
~no1_knows_me~
0
84
Angel
0
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P.S. I wish all tournament participants a great time playing and, most importantly, VICTORY!

P.P.S. At the end of the tournament, certificates of honor and consolation prizes will be presented to the LEADERS for victory in the tournament stages. And the ABSOLUTE LEADER will receive a prize for winning this tournament.

View mini-tournament results HERE.
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:smile28: [M] "Я и моя тень" - "I am and my shadow" :smile28:
:smile16: "Быстрая смерть" - "Fast Death" :smile16:
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Kamikaze;126340
I suggest a very simple solution for the organizer to get out of this incredibly stupid situation: Alexey, allow leaving as many heroes as you want on the map, and use the strongest of them to determine the parameters (because this is a secondary criterion). Or, set a condition - only Gem remains, and she MUST perform the last action.
PS The second option is almost impossible now!
There is a solution that solves ALL the problems!!!!
The sum of the parameters is calculated ONLY for GEM!!!! This immediately eliminates ALL disputes about stuck heroes, etc.
Sincerely!!
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There is a solution that solves ALL the problems!!!!
The sum of the parameters is calculated ONLY for the gems!!!! This immediately eliminates ALL disputes about stuck heroes, etc.
Sincerely!!
This is the only correct solution!!!
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This should have been discussed before the start, so for now, let's consider the hero with the highest stats as the winner.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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Could you please register me, if it's not too much trouble?
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I've sent the save file. Please confirm receipt.
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Hello everyone!
I sent the save file!

I have three questions:

Quote: 3. The current score will be calculated as the average between the previous result and the current one.
As I understand it, after the end of each mini-tournament, there will be a leader (based on the points scored). After the end of the stage, there will be a leader (based on the total points scored in the mini-tournaments in that stage). After the end of seven stages, there will be an absolute leader (based on the total points scored in all seven stages).
So, what are current points and what are they used for?

Restrictions: 2. It is forbidden: To dig up the Grail without fully revealing the puzzle map.
I don't remember if there are any maps in the campaign that have a Grail. If there are, or if K0Lb@zzeR buried it there, then points should probably be awarded for digging it up.
Will the Grail be added to the formula?

From my save, I tried playing a mini-tournament (1.2). The map is poor, but the amulet's guard is impressive! I know that some creatures and artifacts will change.
But will there be significant changes from the author?

We already have a horde! I want to wish the newcomers good luck, the main thing is not to be discouraged if something doesn't work out! I am sure that in the fight against the "monsters" of Heroes World, you will improve your skills!

Sincerely, Perpolken!
Все гениальное-просто!
:) F A I R :) P L A Y[/COLOR]:)
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What a buzz, people are already gathering in line, there are already 51 people. I wonder if everyone will make it to the end. K0Lb@zzeR probably organized the tournament correctly.

Hello.

Just letting you know, in case anyone is interested.

You can read an interview with the tournament judge, Kolbazzer, here.


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p.s. Best regards, Maximula
Mersy is a sign of weakness.
Despair is a sign of weakness.
Танцуешь с дьяволом - танцуй до конца.
Неподъемных камней нету - есть неподъемные люди.
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Quote: 3. Current points will be calculated as the average between the previous result and the current one.
As I understand it, after the end of each mini-tournament, there will be a leader (based on the points scored). After the end of the stage, there will be a leader (based on the total points scored in the mini-tournaments in that stage). After the end of seven stages, there will be an absolute leader (based on the total points scored in all seven stages).
So, what are current points and what are they for?
Current points reflect the "skill level" of the tournament participant; the formula was developed and implemented in this tournament for a reason.
Restrictions: 2. It is forbidden: To dig up the Grail without a fully revealed puzzle map.
I don't remember if there are any maps in the campaign that have a Grail. If there are, or if K0Lb@zzeR buried it there, then perhaps points should be awarded for digging it up.
Will the Grail be added to the formula?
There are no Grails in the standard maps, but it will be added later. And whoever builds the Grail will be given the status of the highest skill level (i.e., something like what was in the BLITZ tournaments). Presumably, the Grail will be involved in the later campaign missions. Therefore, there is time to think about whether it might be possible to introduce a fixed number of points for unearthing the Grail.
From my save, I tried playing a mini-tournament (1.2). The map is poor, but the amulet's guard is worthy of respect! I know that some creatures and artifacts will change.
But will there be significant changes from the author?
Of course, the map will be modernized. We can even create a separate thread where we can discuss the changes made, as well as suggestions for future changes to the map; constructive suggestions will be considered and implemented.
We've already gathered a horde! I want to wish the newcomers good luck; the main thing is not to be discouraged if something doesn't work out! I'm sure that in the fight against the "monsters" of Heroes World, you will improve your skills!
I completely agree; you can gain a lot of experience, especially for beginners. This tournament is somewhat reminiscent of a basic training course. :)

Sincerely, K0Lb@zzeR.
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:smile16: "Быстрая смерть" - "Fast Death" :smile16:
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Dear Kyle and K0Lb@zzeR! Will my voice be heard? Will there be at least some explanation/solution? Sincerely...
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
без авто:smile20:
Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
Платон.
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Dear Kyle and K0Lb@zzeR!
Will I be heard? Will there be at least some explanation/solution?
Sincerely...
You have been heard.
But the answer is not ready yet. :(

Sincerely.

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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I understand everything, of course... rules are rules, and there's no getting around that, but exceptions can happen... :) I'm getting at this:
maybe those who have already submitted their save files should be given the opportunity to resubmit their final save files, taking into account the fact that the hero being evaluated is only one?

P.S. I hope all these "revisions" and rule adjustments only apply to the first stage. For the rest, it will be, in a way, the tournament's constitution, and any violation of it will be strictly suppressed. Of course, problems will still "arise" as we go along, but they will be new ones :), i.e., nothing that has already been decided will be changed, but only something new will be added... :)

Sincerely.
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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In order:
EXAMPLE:
PLAYER 1: 10 days, 12 stats, 10 Castles, 10 Mercury, 10 Gold
PLAYER 2: 10 days, 10 stats, 10 Castles, 20 Mercury, 10 Gold
According to the classic approach, who won? Answer: PLAYER 1.
According to the formula, who won? Answer: PLAYER 2. Here's the calculation:
Points = ((Days_p + (0.5 * Stats_i) / 396 + (0.25 * Mercury_i) / 200 +
+ (0.125 * Gold_i) / 1000000 + (0.0625 * Castles_i) / 48) * 1000) / Days_i
PLAYER 1 = ((5 + (0.5 * 12) / 396 + (0.25 * 10) / 200 + (0.125 * 10) / 1000000 + (0.0625 * 10) / 48) * 1000) / 5 = 1008
PLAYER 2 = ((5 + (0.5 * 10) / 396 + (0.25 * 20) / 200 + (0.125 * 10) / 1000000 + (0.0625 * 10) / 48) * 1000) / 5 = 1010
Question: who will be considered the winner? What should we rely on?
We need to either 1) align the formula and the classic approach, or 2) remove one of them altogether.
Or both ratings will be taken into account,
and there will be different winners for each rating (this somehow bothers me personally).
Kyle: The answer to this question is given in post #240

P.S. I hope all these "revisions" and rule adjustments apply only to the first stage. For the rest, it will already be a kind of tournament constitution, violation of which will be strictly suppressed. Of course, problems will still "emerge" along the way, but they will be new ones, i.e., nothing that has already been resolved will be changed; instead, something new will be added...
That's absolutely right. Since this is my first experience running a tournament, especially such a large one, not everything can be foreseen at once, and there are "subtle" moments in any business that cannot be immediately seen, and therefore, cannot be taken into account.

After talking with Kyle, it was decided to allow resubmission of saves so that everyone would be on equal footing. And also a strong request: when sending saves, please indicate in the subject line the name of the save (for example: GL_1-1_1_K0Lb@zzeR.CGM), so that the anti-spam bot does not accidentally delete your email.

I think you will understand these "adjustments".

Sincerely, K0Lb@zzeR.
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:smile28: [M] "Я и моя тень" - "I am and my shadow" :smile28:
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Well, the save is submitted. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't find any ways to improve the result further, so I'm sending it in early.

Heh, I sent it, spent half an hour formatting the email, and forgot to attach the save file.
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Absolutely correct. Since this is my first experience organizing a tournament, especially one of this scale, it's impossible to account for everything at once, and there are always “subtle” aspects to any task that you might not immediately notice, and therefore, not take into account.

We all support you ;). We immediately report any incidents related to your rules, and the issue is quickly resolved. And you already have experience as an organizer, but the task you've taken on is not easy (more than 50 people!), but there are two of you – you'll figure it out.
K0Lb@zzeR;126815
After talking with Kyle, it was decided to approve the resubmission of the save file so that everyone would be on equal footing.

Especially since there are not many such players ;)
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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Dear Tournament Participants,
Please excuse us for this confusion.
However, from this moment on, the tournament rules will be changed significantly, as the existing rules contained many shortcomings and controversial points.

It used to be:
The winner of the current mini-tournament will be the player who completes the current mission within the fewest number of days.
If several players have the same completion time, the best one will be determined by the sum of primary skills (attack, defense, magic, knowledge) INCLUDING WORN ARTIFACTS. If a favorite still cannot be determined, it will be based on the amount of mercury. And if a favorite still cannot be determined, it will be based on the amount of gold (there will still be a few coins left in the player's "stash").

Now:
The winner of the current mini-tournament will be the player with the maximum number of points according to the formula below.
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Points = ((Days_l + (0.5 * Param_i) / 396 + (0.25 * Mercury_i) / 200 + (0.125 * Gold_i) / 1000000 + (0.0625 * Castle_i) / 48) * 1000) / Days_i
Where:
Days_l – The number of days the leader spent completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Days_i - The number of days the player spent completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Param_i – The sum of the hero's parameters (attack, defense, magic, knowledge) INCLUDING WORN ARTIFACTS, obtained by the player when completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Mercury_i – The amount of mercury obtained by the player when completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Castle_i – The number of castles captured by the player when completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
Gold_i - The amount of gold remaining with the participant in their "stash" when completing the task of the current mini-tournament.
In other words, now, to take first place, you need to study the formula very well. ;)

All players who have already sent their saves according to the old rules have the right to replay and resubmit a winning save.

Once again, we ask you to excuse us for this mess with the rules. :o

Sincerely.

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров

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