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I would really like to hear what Medzh has to say...
I don't have the opportunity to actively monitor the discussion right now. I'll be back around seven or eight in the evening, see how things are going, and join the discussion.

Here are my impressions from the first day:
Nebo - I like how he plays; he clearly seems like a town member.
Moni - At first, I didn't like his writing style, but after rereading it, I realized it's actually pretty good; he's very active and sometimes insightful. If he plays Mafia this well, then I have a lot of respect for him. I'm not ready to suspect him without serious evidence.
Ment - His statements are vague. He seems like a town member, and he's trying to look for clues, but I can't shake the feeling that he might be Mafia.
Neira - She says she doesn't know how to play. If I were Mafia, I probably wouldn't use that excuse repeatedly. It's 50/50; she could be a town member. It's hard for me to give up on my suspicion of Tutunhamon, but I need to be flexible (or Gibel).
Kosha - She says, "I didn't promise you anything, so I'm not playing." Well, that's a classic Mafia move; you can get away with it without any remorse. She's more likely to be Mafia than a town member.
Arandor - He's inactive. He seems to be trying to clear himself by saying that he was targeted for a night kill on the first night. But what if they were directly targeting Heroist? I'm not ready to vote for him yet, and I probably won't get the chance because he's not very active.
Yashur - He's more likely to be a town member than Mafia. I can't understand why the Mafia would block Fragment on the first night and then kill him. That means Yashur was blocked by the Mafia. Although, Mafia logic is hard to explain, in my opinion.
Fragment - Well, he's a town role, but he didn't discuss anything in the thread, even though he has a night defense ability (block on the first night). What's the point of playing if that's all he does? Very bad.
Master - He's clearly Mafia. He's looking for clues based on associations, even without using article titles or links to the wiki (like Nebo, Moni, Ment, and I did). He only posted a few short messages on the first day. His activity level is minimal, just enough to show that he's participating. Unfortunately, people won't agree to vote for him right now because of the block, but I'm ready to do it at any moment.

So, it's a typical situation where "well, this one doesn't seem like Mafia, and that one doesn't seem like Mafia, so the remaining three inactive players are the suspects" smile"
An important point is that Neira and Ment are directly against NNV; I'm more inclined to see this as a positive, although in the current setting, things aren't so clear-cut.

In summary, the Mafia are Master, Kosha, and Ment/Yashur/Arandor/...

Vote for Kosha
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And one more thing. Since the stolen ND is displayed in the same way, it's theoretically possible that Medzh is Balzak, who killed on the first night, and was blocked this night, while the serial killer killed him with the stolen ND. This possibility cannot be ruled out.

1) There is no evidence against me on the first night.
2) So, the Mafia killed with Balzak for two nights in a row, which is why there's no Mafia kill tonight? Someone yesterday said that it's not logical to accumulate two clues on the same person.

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается
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Even with 5 worlds, the prospects don't seem very promising. It feels like the town is just serving as a distraction to shift attention between the Mafia and the Peaceful. In short, we need to find someone who has the most evidence against them for both days, assuming that the same person killed on both nights. Based on that, Yashur, Medzh, and Mafster are out for today.
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I would say that at the moment, Yashur is the only candidate who isn't a maniac.
What about in Mafia?
А, вот почему.

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Neyra says she doesn't know how to play. If I were a Mafia member, I probably wouldn't use that excuse repeatedly. 50/50, it could very well be a peaceful player. It's hard for me to give up my clue about Tutankhamun, but I need to be flexible (or Gibel).
I'm not saying I don't know how to play; I'm saying I'm not good at clues – these are two different things. I didn't pay attention to your clue about Tutankhamun because it's an obvious Berber; I didn't think it was worth discussing.
Following that logic, based on Frag's suggestion yesterday about Tarot cards, there's another Berber clue against me, because in the second part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders, the first Stands were called Tarot cards, and when the cards ran out, they switched to Egyptian gods. Plus, the climax took place in Egypt. Revan is an anime fan, so it all fits!

So, sorry, but I'll pass on the clues.
It's too early to make a judgment based on the ontology, because I haven't played Mafia in a long time, and there's not much informative content in the newspapers.

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What about in Mafia?
Well, here you go)) At the very least, he could be a Mafia member who smokes bamboo.
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Kosha says, "I didn't promise you anything, so I'm not playing." Well, that's a typical Mafia tactic – you can get away with anything without a shred of guilt. More like Mafia than Town.
So, the option "Came to have fun and for nostalgia's sake" isn't being considered, that's clear. If I were Mafia, I'd either try to play to avoid letting the team down, or I'd just drop out of the thread altogether because I hate playing as Mafia.
А, вот почему.

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Okay.
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Tonight, astrologers announced a week of orphans.
People wrote in the thread that this is a hint about Fragment's role. I agree, 99% he's Pompey's mother with many children.

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and astronomers observed a heavy meteor shower – as many as 790 minor planets passed across the sky.
99% it's a clue, and a rather specific one. But it seems like Revan is creating clues like he did in his previous mafia game, so we have almost no chance of figuring anything out.

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Megerson and Master, for example, got so drunk that they were completely incapacitated in the morning. However, the first one managed to boost his reputation, as he needed twice as much alcohol to get that drunk.
Was Megerson blocked twice? Did Man copy his night defense last night, saw that there was a block, and blocked him again with the same block? From Revan's answers, I understood that this is possible. If this is possible, then Man has exposed one of our blockers.

Execute Megerson as the mafia boss.

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And for Fragment, the fun in good company ended with a fatal outcome.
Balzac killed again, most likely.
Ment
and there's no need to kill Man if he could.
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Hibila's killings correspond to the copied night defense.
Hmm, what if Master is Hibila, whose second night defense was blocked, so we only have one killing from Balzac today? Or is Ment a cunning Hibila who didn't kill and is trying to frame the blocked player?
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Was Mejerzon blocked twice? Did Man copy his block from the previous night, saw that there was a block, and blocked him again with the same block? From Revan's answers, I understood that this is possible. If this is possible, then Man exposed one of our blockers.
The player being investigated by the murderer is automatically blocked for the next night.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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Well, here you go:)))

Montezuma II ↓
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He was born and raised in the Aticpac neighborhood of Tenochtitlan. At the age of 11, he was placed in the imperial school (calmecac) of Tlillan ("Gloomy Mood") for education – a large temple of the goddess of earth and war, Cihuacoatl.
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Cihuacoatl is one of the oldest Mesoamerican deities and one of the main deities of the Aztec pantheon. She was also worshiped under the names Tonacine or Tonancin ("our mother"), Quilaztli ("eagle") and Ilamatecuhtli; the name of the goddess Coatlicue is considered one of the variants of the name Cihuacoatl.
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The most famous statue of Coatlicue, found in 1790 in Mexico City.
I've identified two of the factions for you, you're welcome 😎 One remains, it's hard to say who it is; for now, I'm inclined to think that Yashur and Kosha are peaceful.

As for the "maniac" faction, I have three options: Master, Ment, Arandor.
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Evil Lizard
The investigated target is automatically blocked for the next night by the maniac.
That's what I'm writing about. He was automatically blocked, plus the maniac blocked Majorerson-Gorio with his own stolen ND.
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That's what I'm writing about. He was automatically blocked, plus the maniac blocked Major-Gorio with his own stolen ND.
I don't understand... Did the man investigate Major-Gorio and then come to him with his own block??? It looks a bit crazy from the maniac's perspective. If the man saw Major as a mafia boss, why block him again if he's already blocked automatically???
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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I don't understand... Man researched Meja-Gorio and came to him with his own block??? It looks a bit strange from the perspective of a maniac. If Man saw Meja as a mafia boss, why block him again if he's already blocked automatically???
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Why would a maniac need to additionally block Meja if he has already blocked him?
To expose him.
What other explanations are there for the double block on Meja?
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To burn.
And what other explanations are there for the double block on Medge?
1. Research yesterday + block from Gorio today. Master - block from Selig.
2. Research yesterday + block from Selig today. Master - block from Gorio.
3. Block from Gorio + block from Selig today. Master - research yesterday.

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It turns out both can be... anyone...:mad:
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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That's a strange claim. Unless you're the moderator and came up with it yourself.))
If Gibil really copied Medj and realized that he was Gorio, why didn't he kill him immediately, but wasted an extra block?

There are several possibilities here:
1. Medj blocked Gibil's copying with his own, and the second block was from Seliga/Gorio. Accordingly, the remaining block went to Mafster.
2. Medj was blocked by Seliga and Gorio, and Gibil came to hang out with Mafster.
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My impressions from the first day are as follows:
Oh, the first voting result, good.
 
My thoughts are:
Yashur – he says he's not Mafia... Let's assume. Mafia can't be ruled out, but the role of Balzac has to be discarded. Judging by his behavior, Yashur doesn't seem to be a strong player.
 
Kosh – I know she's pretending to be innocent, but Kosh plays Mafia and Town roles with almost the same enthusiasm, it's hard to tell... But Medzh's confidence about her is confusing me right now.
 
Medzh – it's good that he's not afraid to vote, but his principle for choosing who to eliminate is not good. In my opinion, it's not very good, whether Kosh is Mafia or not, but his generally cheerful demeanor is strange. Perhaps the reason is nervousness, because Master was suspicious of him yesterday, and today he's already being blocked. However, I don't believe in the correctness of yesterday's deduction about him.

Arandor – Romeo's move in the first night speaks in his favor, but that's just probability. In terms of gameplay, he's not rushing to take advantage of the slightly increased trust he has from the town (and he should).

Neira – I would say she's about the same as Kosh. She tries to engage in general discussions, but she's good at both.
 
Lok – he clearly answered yesterday, although he showed active gameplay after suspicions arose about him. By the way, Lok and Master are not Mafia together, otherwise the first would have been killed... Overall, he's more likely to be Town.

Master – so, it's likely that both of them are not Mafia. First, in terms of roles, this is only possible if Master is Goriot, and Medzh is Grandet, but besides that, they are also attacking each other too persistently. Something to think about: is Master Mafia, who copied Medzh's role? This scenario looks interesting, attacking a Mafia member about whom he knows everything, that's a great strategy. However, the probability is at the level of "guess for yourself." In terms of gameplay, I don't see anything like that.

Cop – that's me.

Nebok – I just want to confirm that yes, he's Town, and I almost agree, but I won't rule out the possibility of him being Mafia. Nebok-Mafia is cunning and ruthless, and almost always wins, we know that.

In conclusion! Medzh + Yashur/Neira/Arandor, pick 2. These are the Mafia.
As for the Mafia... Well, there are problems with this player, logic doesn't work well here. There's a chance to figure it out if he really stole Balzac's role and used it to kill today, but that's weak. It would be good to know who the Mafia is, but it might be dangerous to eliminate someone now, without a clear understanding of the Mafia roles. Also, I like the idea of Master being Mafia, but I like to look for patterns where there aren't any...
 

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